Parroting?.........How, then I respectfully ask you, would that be any different at all from the advice that you give here. Would you rashly disqualify yourself or randomly disqualify any other member for posting here an remark you happen to disagree with? Are you just mindlessly parroting? Probably not, I assume you are here like me to learn from others and selflessly contribute whatever we can. We all repeat whatever information we have learned , what else do we have to intellectually offer one and other. Every bit of knowlege we have is acccumulated/stolen. Dialogue is the tool to see if the existing paradigm of our ideas stands up to a challange. I am trying daily to discern what information Is valid and what is not. ....... if continuous use did not shut your own testosterone production down, I for one am glad to hear it. I will accept your testimony , learn from it , and take it into consideration when talking about supplementing testosterone in the future. I wasn’t being dogmatic and pushing that there are no exceptions to my comments anyway. Staggering hormones is based in science and not really very controversial. If you disagree with that science, understood. I have no issue with that. I am constantly discovering science I don’t always agree with.