Advice to men who want to raise their T levels

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take 5mg of DHEA and 25mg of Progest-E every day.

Eat Peaty and avoid PUFAs and try for some periods of zero fat, a few days here and there, to further deplete PUFAs.

Use Pyrocet, 10 drops, every day.

Make sure to get a lot of sugar from orange juice and ripe fruit.

Fix hypothyroid by taking T4 and T3.

Live life with purpose.

Have lots of sexual intercourse with one you love, ejaculating rarely. Don't use any porn, avoid watching sex scenes on TV and try not to masturbate very often.

That's what I did. And it has been awesome. My T was always high but now it is probably higher (I don't check anymore due to an aversion to labs and medical procedures).

I think honestly porn has undone a whole generation of young people who wired their brains to it, without realizing the consequences. I think men my age in general, those who aren't on a dozen medications, probably have higher T than most young men. In fact I know that is true.

Buzzfeed young male editors had theirs tested (ng/dL)


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The issue I have is higher estrogen. My estrone was a bit above normal when I tested it several years ago. I think the progesterone, and maybe eating just a bit less, helps that.

Sex is great for me and I feel a good driving libido at all times, varying a bit if I have ejaculated recently. Sometimes I take 1 drop of metergoline on my neck if I have ejaculated, to keep prolactin low, and I think this helps a lot to prevent post-O crash.
 

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take 5mg of DHEA and 25mg of Progest-E every day.

Eat Peaty and avoid PUFAs and try for some periods of zero fat, a few days here and there, to further deplete PUFAs.

Use Pyrocet, 10 drops, every day.

Make sure to get a lot of sugar from orange juice and ripe fruit.

Fix hypothyroid by taking T4 and T3.

Live life with purpose.

Have lots of sexual intercourse with one you love, ejaculating rarely. Don't use any porn, avoid watching sex scenes on TV and try not to masturbate very often.

That's what I did. And it has been awesome. My T was always high but now it is probably higher (I don't check anymore due to an aversion to labs and medical procedures).

I think honestly porn has undone a whole generation of young people who wired their brains to it, without realizing the consequences. I think men my age in general, those who aren't on a dozen medications, probably have higher T than most young men. In fact I know that is true.

Buzzfeed young male editors had theirs tested (ng/dL)


3lUfT9PZcLhp1iY3EtzvpyIMzIjfPoOGm_Umc3qbnugT8U4Q-LeMxXb5kVuo3c0YQSNotu-Mtc9dvhrSiScxh2HIqpL-CiU48KaMJVhNHawGG-D2Ajj-vgwE5KtBDRc1VGrhmOvW.png


The issue I have is higher estrogen. My estrone was a bit above normal when I tested it several years ago. I think the progesterone, and maybe eating just a bit less, helps that.

Sex is great for me and I feel a good driving libido at all times, varying a bit if I have ejaculated recently. Sometimes I take 1 drop of metergoline on my neck if I have ejaculated, to keep prolactin low, and I think this helps a lot to prevent post-O crash.

Great stuff!

I definitely focus on keeping estrogen down more than trying to increase T. I used to get the "crash" post O before getting really dialed in with low pufas, calcium to phosphorus ratio, thyroid intake, etc. It's interesting how that was one of the first things I noticed in my sex life.

Whenever I ask Peat about raising T, he always comes back to the ratio of T to Estrogen more than anything. I think that's more of a protective thing from him as he's concerned about the aromatase. Therefore, he doesn't promote trying to raise T as much.
 

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Thanks @ecstatichamster , this is great stuff. I agree porn has destroyed many young individuals, physically and mentally.

Do you also feel K2 Mk4 can help boost testosterone levels?
 
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If you still interested, after trying all beta's, and some others, I'm now on 1/4 of 20 mg (lowest dose) of Olmesartan, it works easy for me.

thanks!

Great stuff!

I definitely focus on keeping estrogen down more than trying to increase T. I used to get the "crash" post O before getting really dialed in with low pufas, calcium to phosphorus ratio, thyroid intake, etc. It's interesting how that was one of the first things I noticed in my sex life.

Whenever I ask Peat about raising T, he always comes back to the ratio of T to Estrogen more than anything. I think that's more of a protective thing from him as he's concerned about the aromatase. Therefore, he doesn't promote trying to raise T as much.

My high T has caused me to have high estrone which I feel has come down but is probably still an issue.


Thanks @ecstatichamster , this is great stuff. I agree porn has destroyed many young individuals, physically and mentally.

Do you also feel K2 Mk4 can help boost testosterone levels?

I'm not sure, maybe. I use about 5 - 15mg of K2 MK4 per day.
 

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take 5mg of DHEA and 25mg of Progest-E every day.

Eat Peaty and avoid PUFAs and try for some periods of zero fat, a few days here and there, to further deplete PUFAs.

Use Pyrocet, 10 drops, every day.

Make sure to get a lot of sugar from orange juice and ripe fruit.

Fix hypothyroid by taking T4 and T3.

Live life with purpose.

Have lots of sexual intercourse with one you love, ejaculating rarely. Don't use any porn, avoid watching sex scenes on TV and try not to masturbate very often.

That's what I did. And it has been awesome. My T was always high but now it is probably higher (I don't check anymore due to an aversion to labs and medical procedures).

I think honestly porn has undone a whole generation of young people who wired their brains to it, without realizing the consequences. I think men my age in general, those who aren't on a dozen medications, probably have higher T than most young men. In fact I know that is true.

Buzzfeed young male editors had theirs tested (ng/dL)


3lUfT9PZcLhp1iY3EtzvpyIMzIjfPoOGm_Umc3qbnugT8U4Q-LeMxXb5kVuo3c0YQSNotu-Mtc9dvhrSiScxh2HIqpL-CiU48KaMJVhNHawGG-D2Ajj-vgwE5KtBDRc1VGrhmOvW.png


The issue I have is higher estrogen. My estrone was a bit above normal when I tested it several years ago. I think the progesterone, and maybe eating just a bit less, helps that.

Sex is great for me and I feel a good driving libido at all times, varying a bit if I have ejaculated recently. Sometimes I take 1 drop of metergoline on my neck if I have ejaculated, to keep prolactin low, and I think this helps a lot to prevent post-O crash.

Nice post, ty.

Curious as to what your diet is like to keep high testosterone, I saw the basics posted but do you follow for example low fat/high carb (do you have a macro split?)

Also on a side note I saw on another post you went back and forth between NDT and other sources of thyroid, curious to what your using now and if you found one that works best for you?

Thank you
 
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I use cynoplus and take a nibble when I need it. That is very good for me.
I use temperature as my guide.

Half gallon of milk, oj, grape juice, fruit, a Coke, a Red Bull, small muscle meat portion, a small portion of potato or rice. A few caramels here and there.

the low starch has been incredible.
 

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take 5mg of DHEA and 25mg of Progest-E every day.

Eat Peaty and avoid PUFAs and try for some periods of zero fat, a few days here and there, to further deplete PUFAs.

Use Pyrocet, 10 drops, every day.

Make sure to get a lot of sugar from orange juice and ripe fruit.

Fix hypothyroid by taking T4 and T3.

Live life with purpose.

Have lots of sexual intercourse with one you love, ejaculating rarely. Don't use any porn, avoid watching sex scenes on TV and try not to masturbate very often.

That's what I did. And it has been awesome. My T was always high but now it is probably higher (I don't check anymore due to an aversion to labs and medical procedures).

I think honestly porn has undone a whole generation of young people who wired their brains to it, without realizing the consequences. I think men my age in general, those who aren't on a dozen medications, probably have higher T than most young men. In fact I know that is true.

Buzzfeed young male editors had theirs tested (ng/dL)


3lUfT9PZcLhp1iY3EtzvpyIMzIjfPoOGm_Umc3qbnugT8U4Q-LeMxXb5kVuo3c0YQSNotu-Mtc9dvhrSiScxh2HIqpL-CiU48KaMJVhNHawGG-D2Ajj-vgwE5KtBDRc1VGrhmOvW.png


The issue I have is higher estrogen. My estrone was a bit above normal when I tested it several years ago. I think the progesterone, and maybe eating just a bit less, helps that.

Sex is great for me and I feel a good driving libido at all times, varying a bit if I have ejaculated recently. Sometimes I take 1 drop of metergoline on my neck if I have ejaculated, to keep prolactin low, and I think this helps a lot to prevent post-O crash.
Is it pyrucet or pyrocet?
 

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I use cynoplus and take a nibble when I need it. That is very good for me.
I use temperature as my guide.

Half gallon of milk, oj, grape juice, fruit, a Coke, a Red Bull, small muscle meat portion, a small portion of potato or rice. A few caramels here and there.

the low starch has been incredible.

Has the low starch helped you in other ways apart from raising T? If so, how?

Thanks.
 
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In his latest interview with Patrick Timpone, Ray said that low fat could increase T. Not only PUFA, but all fat, moving towards carbohydrate metabolism and away from fat metabolism.
 
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In his latest interview with Patrick Timpone, Ray said that low fat could increase T. Not only PUFA, but all fat, moving towards carbohydrate metabolism and away from fat metabolism.
thanks, I’m listening to this episode.
 

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No offense but you mentioned you already had high T to begin with. You also haven't done any blood tests to show T has actually gone up. I think your advice is sound, in a general health and well being context but to phrase it as a guide to boosting testosterone is a little bit of a stretch.
 
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No offense but you mentioned you already had high T to begin with. You also haven't done any blood tests to show T has actually gone up. I think your advice is sound, in a general health and well being context but to phrase it as a guide to boosting testosterone is a little bit of a stretch.

okay.
 
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take 5mg of DHEA and 25mg of Progest-E every day.

Eat Peaty and avoid PUFAs and try for some periods of zero fat, a few days here and there, to further deplete PUFAs.

Use Pyrocet, 10 drops, every day.

Make sure to get a lot of sugar from orange juice and ripe fruit.

Fix hypothyroid by taking T4 and T3.

Live life with purpose.

Have lots of sexual intercourse with one you love, ejaculating rarely. Don't use any porn, avoid watching sex scenes on TV and try not to masturbate very often.

That's what I did. And it has been awesome. My T was always high but now it is probably higher (I don't check anymore due to an aversion to labs and medical procedures).

I think honestly porn has undone a whole generation of young people who wired their brains to it, without realizing the consequences. I think men my age in general, those who aren't on a dozen medications, probably have higher T than most young men. In fact I know that is true.

Buzzfeed young male editors had theirs tested (ng/dL)


3lUfT9PZcLhp1iY3EtzvpyIMzIjfPoOGm_Umc3qbnugT8U4Q-LeMxXb5kVuo3c0YQSNotu-Mtc9dvhrSiScxh2HIqpL-CiU48KaMJVhNHawGG-D2Ajj-vgwE5KtBDRc1VGrhmOvW.png


The issue I have is higher estrogen. My estrone was a bit above normal when I tested it several years ago. I think the progesterone, and maybe eating just a bit less, helps that.

Sex is great for me and I feel a good driving libido at all times, varying a bit if I have ejaculated recently. Sometimes I take 1 drop of metergoline on my neck if I have ejaculated, to keep prolactin low, and I think this helps a lot to prevent post-O crash.

Let me get this straight: you are giving advice based on assumptions, which will never become certainties as you are scared of needles.

Fair summary?
 
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Let me get this straight: you are giving advice based on assumptions, which will never become certainties as you are scared of needles.

Fair summary?

I’ve seen many men use this method very successfully. Bot jus
How do you take the 25mg of Progest-E? Oral or topical?

topical.

I have used this method and I know when my T is high. I can tell. And I have given this method to many men who have used it successfully. Georgy has discussed it's efficacy on several of the Danny Roddy calls. But please do not attack me with snide and sarcastic statements. I don't appreciate it. Just ignore if you think I'm full of it.
 

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I appreciate the sound advice by ecstatichamster whether it's been substantiated by lab work or not. For instance, pyrucet has had favorable mentions by Hans as well.
 

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Progesterone is really helping me sleep. This is a game changer, I haven't slept properly for years but now I wake up and feel somewhat refreshed. I drown myself in progesterone cream before bed and sleep like a log (well at least better than before). It's hard to maintain good testosterone production with CFS/exercise intolerance and consistently shitty sleep... I hope this will help.
 

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My high T has caused me to have high estrone which I feel has come down but is probably still an issue.
Do you think this could be behavioural? As an adaptive response to your life, environment, or something like that. To my understanding estrone is converted T, its like the T being made aggressive (maybe for a necessary reason)
 
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