What Does It Mean To Be Drained By Orgasm/masturbation

[Carlito]

It affects me and many other men, and seemingly effects those who grew up in the porn generation a lot more frequently.

Basically after orgasm I feel a total loss of motivation to do anything. Not only that but it is combined with a general background anxiety, more social anxiety (don't wanna really speak to people or look them in the eye, no interest in socialising, fear of being judged), and a feeling of generally being quite lame.

I know this has a lot to do with dopamine desensitization. However I know people don't buy the 'receptors' theory round here.

My thoughts are that something hormonal is going on in the background, or maybe general energy is just too low at baseline, so that orgasm drains it even more. Even masturbation without orgasm ruins my mood for hours afterwards.

When it is achieved through sex then the lethargic/anxious feeling is not as strong, because at least you know you have successfully 'spread your seed' and made someone else feel really good.

Does anyone have thoughts to share on this?

 

[Prosper]

The better my metabolism is the less masturbation affects me.

 

[dq139]

It affects me and many other men, and seemingly effects those who grew up in the porn generation a lot more frequently.

Basically after orgasm I feel a total loss of motivation to do anything. Not only that but it is combined with a general background anxiety, more social anxiety (don't wanna really speak to people or look them in the eye, no interest in socialising, fear of being judged), and a feeling of generally being quite lame.

I know this has a lot to do with dopamine desensitization. However I know people don't buy the 'receptors' theory round here.

My thoughts are that something hormonal is going on in the background, or maybe general energy is just too low at baseline, so that orgasm drains it even more. Even masturbation without orgasm ruins my mood for hours afterwards.

When it is achieved through sex then the lethargic/anxious feeling is not as strong, because at least you know you have successfully 'spread your seed' and made someone else feel really good.

I have been a excessive masturbator most of my life to be honest haha. so I know what you are feeling...orgasm too much ***** up your dopamine raises prolactin and estrogen ect...its a big waste of time and not good for your health in my experience.

Does anyone have thoughts to share on this?

 

[Dessert_All_Day]

It clears my mind and energizes me, but most people on these forums will say the opposite. So I have no clue what to make of it.

 

[dq139]

I have been a excessive masturbator most of my life to be honest haha. so I know what you are feeling...orgasm too much ***** up your dopamine raises prolactin and estrogen ect...its a big waste of time and not good for your health in my experience.

 

[Constatine]

It affects me and many other men, and seemingly effects those who grew up in the porn generation a lot more frequently.

Basically after orgasm I feel a total loss of motivation to do anything. Not only that but it is combined with a general background anxiety, more social anxiety (don't wanna really speak to people or look them in the eye, no interest in socialising, fear of being judged), and a feeling of generally being quite lame.

I know this has a lot to do with dopamine desensitization. However I know people don't buy the 'receptors' theory round here.

My thoughts are that something hormonal is going on in the background, or maybe general energy is just too low at baseline, so that orgasm drains it even more. Even masturbation without orgasm ruins my mood for hours afterwards.

When it is achieved through sex then the lethargic/anxious feeling is not as strong, because at least you know you have successfully 'spread your seed' and made someone else feel really good.

Does anyone have thoughts to share on this?

Even though actual physical receptors might not exist (or might not be what they seem) studies dealing with "receptors" are still useful based on what they are measuring. How cells actually behave is not completely opposite to the receptor theory but different in some crucial matters (as in a substance like estrogen can effect a cell even without a "receptor" for it). Studies done concerning binding potential and what not are still useful. Nevertheless orgasm and masturbation have so many systematic effects on the body I can't even begin to think of a mechanism of action. It does really have some strange effects on the body.

 

[ecstatichamster]

orgasm has long term effects too. You can observe it if you stop and then experiment.

Life without orgasm is much better. It is 100 times more pleasurable.

 

[squanch]

orgasm has long term effects too. You can observe it if you stop and then experiment.

Life without orgasm is much better. It is 100 times more pleasurable.

How would you handle the whole no orgasm thing if you're in a relationship though? Just sex without orgasm ever? Sex without orgasm most days and orgasm on some days? No actual penetration at all?

 

[Tarmander]

Orgasm pretty reliably raises prolactin...if you look into that you will understand why orgasm has some of the effects that it does.

Now...as to why it raises prolactin and we aren't completely unaffected by the most pleasurable thing we can experience naturally...that is a good question. It seems reality is built in such a way where there ain't no free lunch.

 

[Prosper]

How would you handle the whole no orgasm thing if you're in a relationship though? Just sex without orgasm ever? Sex without orgasm most days and orgasm on some days? No actual penetration at all?

You know how sometimes post-orgasm you don't want to be around your partner for a couple of days?Non-orgasmic sex seems to achieve the opposite result. It can be very satisfying and beneficial for the relationship once you both learn to control your desire to explode.

 

[Carlito]

Orgasm pretty reliably raises prolactin...if you look into that you will understand why orgasm has some of the effects that it does.

Now...as to why it raises prolactin and we aren't completely unaffected by the most pleasurable thing we can experience naturally...that is a good question. It seems reality is built in such a way where there ain't no free lunch.

Ain't that the truth man. Its just way worse for some than others, maybe background prolactin levels are already too high. I still have a lot to learn but yes this makes sense.

You know how sometimes post-orgasm you don't want to be around your partner for a couple of days?Non-orgasmic sex seems to achieve the opposite result. It can be very satisfying and beneficial for the relationship once you both learn to control your desire to explode.

The book 'Cupid's Poisoned Arrow' is pretty good and covers this exactly.

 

[ecstatichamster]

How would you handle the whole no orgasm thing if you're in a relationship though? Just sex without orgasm ever? Sex without orgasm most days and orgasm on some days? No actual penetration at all?

I do that. I have a lot of sex. Lots. And very few orgasms. Maybe one a month if that.

The brain rewires and the pleasure is 100 times better without orgasm. Believe it or not.

 

[ecstatichamster]

You know how sometimes post-orgasm you don't want to be around your partner for a couple of days?Non-orgasmic sex seems to achieve the opposite result. It can be very satisfying and beneficial for the relationship once you both learn to control your desire to explode.

exactly right. And actually it is very soothing and wonderful having sex this way. It is amazing and makes the whole rest of your life amazing.

 

[passivity]

It clears my mind and energizes me, but most people on these forums will say the opposite. So I have no clue what to make of it.

 

[raypeatclips]

How would you handle the whole no orgasm thing if you're in a relationship though? Just sex without orgasm ever? Sex without orgasm most days and orgasm on some days? No actual penetration at all?

In my experience my bodies reactions to masturbation and sex are completely different, although too much sex can be draining too.

 

[Herbie]

I see masturbation as insurance if not in a stable sexual relationship.

If your a heterosexual male, many women will try to seduce you but not all of the women that do will be who you would want to sleep with or even socialise with.

That trance of seduction can come over you and if the tanks are full, you are very very vulnerable and you may become promiscuous and sleep with one of these women and feel drained and disgusted afterwards and so masturbating when these trances come over you will protect you from doing anything promiscuous which you may regret.

Some will say the trance like waking a sleeping giant is high estrogen but I don't know.

I learnt this the hard way.

 

[Scenes]

exactly right. And actually it is very soothing and wonderful having sex this way. It is amazing and makes the whole rest of your life amazing.

Ancient Chinese Taoist philosophy would say you must have the thickest hairline on planet earth...is this true?

 

[Prosper]

If your a heterosexual male, many women will try to seduce you

That's what one would think LOL

 

[Elysium]

This whole thread is overthought. You have sex, you come - coming blows your mind, it's like heroin. The extatic feeling of shooting out your sperm is a major achievement for your brain's chemistry. After such peak, things must come down, for body and functions to recover. You don't want to ****, because you are drained of your sperm and seminal fluid, hence the social retraction. It sounds pretty simple, reasonable and perfectly natural. No need to be such a drama queen about it.

 

[Elysium]

I do that. I have a lot of sex. Lots. And very few orgasms. Maybe one a month if that.

The brain rewires and the pleasure is 100 times better without orgasm. Believe it or not.

I sure hope you're a woman, because if not then what you are desribing is abnormal and unhealthy. Im not judging, and I would not be laughing at someone's impotence, but to present impotence as a gift is a whole different matter that deserves a laugh.