Masturbation with ejaculation relieves depression symptoms

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As a substance relating to social conditions and so on*
in this post haidut suggests that having a faster metabolism can make you see life as a dream and be more "childlike"

 

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i am a fan of binaural beats and this one makes me way more chill and laid back like you described




it supposedly lowers serotonin and in my experiences it does (makes me warmer and happier in general)
 
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in this post haidut suggests that having a faster metabolism can make you see life as a dream and be more "childlike"

Well what is the point of becoming an adult if you’ll still experience life as a child. Aspirin makes me experience life as a child and I mean it’s really fun but at the same time it stops me from being a man which you are supposed to be after a certain age depending on which culture you live in, and that is what you should strive for. Many people in the western world have never experienced “survival mode” and they try to have as much fun in their lives as possible without any whatsoever pain which of course is not their fault. Princes and sons of kings and sultans throughout times were always put through rigorous training and challenges to be ready for what was to come and become “men”.
Now I’m not saying aspirin is bad lol, it probably is the best medicine out there but at the same time living in this blissful lsd like reality which I’ve tried many times is really nice but not realistic.
 

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Well what is the point of becoming an adult if you’ll still experience life as a child. Aspirin makes me experience life as a child and I mean it’s really fun but at the same time it stops me from being a man which you are supposed to be after a certain age depending on which culture you live in, and that is what you should strive for. Many people in the western world have never experienced “survival mode” and they try to have as much fun in their lives as possible without any whatsoever pain which of course is not their fault. Princes and sons of kings and sultans throughout times were always put through rigorous training and challenges to be ready for what was to come and become “men”.
Now I’m not saying aspirin is bad lol, it probably is the best medicine out there but at the same time living in this blissful lsd like reality which I’ve tried many times is really nice but not realistic.
how is that not realistic considering that the state you reached with aspirin did not stop you from being able to do something important for your well being(from what you explained there),that you would have done with out being in the state induced by the aspirin?
 

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Well what is the point of becoming an adult if you’ll still experience life as a child. Aspirin makes me experience life as a child and I mean it’s really fun but at the same time it stops me from being a man which you are supposed to be after a certain age depending on which culture you live in, and that is what you should strive for. Many people in the western world have never experienced “survival mode” and they try to have as much fun in their lives as possible without any whatsoever pain which of course is not their fault. Princes and sons of kings and sultans throughout times were always put through rigorous training and challenges to be ready for what was to come and become “men”.
Now I’m not saying aspirin is bad lol, it probably is the best medicine out there but at the same time living in this blissful lsd like reality which I’ve tried many times is really nice but not realistic.
Many ancient societies had rites of passages (even more recent ones had ones, like mandatory military service), and i suspect this has to do with a metabolic switch between childhood and adulthood, induced by stress.
 

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I know it's confusing, I would do what feels best at the time because putting pressure on one's self doesn't work because the sexual appetite and enjoyment is too strong for any self authoraterian mind games.

I used to get so distracted that I couldn't focus on anything until afterwards. Ive known about writers and people doing extremely mundain tasks which require focus and use porn as some way to get distracted then re focus.

I knew about no fap for years, sounded good and knew it was the way but wasn't ready, it wasn't until a build up of momentum and combination of doxycycline and vitamin e by accident that I just stopped pmo and never thought of it again, it wasn't from trying.

If anyone is interested, there was a study done on tetracycline and its posted on the forum how it stops "honey trap" which is it makes men immune to women's seduction.

Is it the shame of the act or is it the shame by the types of women it's been done over, any guy who has gotten drunk, slept with some women who in one's right mind wouldn't touch her someone else's male flower dildo, the deep regret and dark atmosphere which occurs after.
What dosages did you use of vitamin e and doxy? And for how long? Seems interesting and have both of these on hand
 
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how is that not realistic considering that the state you reached with aspirin did not stop you from being able to do something important for your well being(from what you explained there),that you would have done with out being in the state induced by the aspirin?
Because aspirin makes me less assertive and makes me kind of having some fear. Opposed to having that “nothing can stop me” feeling which I only have experienced with androgenic substances. Don’t miss understand me. The best way to get to that mental space is through life experiences where you can be truly flexible and face any circumstance. But sometimes you need these substances to get you out of a certain “box” where you were stuck. I know people who don’t take anything and they behave like they are in 1000mg of test and 100mg of proviron a week. Why? Because they came up and were raised in environments where being just a little “feminine” is a social suicide. In my opinion the best substance is something very dopaminergic, that gives you real flexibility in all environments. Androgenic stuff is good but in my experience I become really unsocial (the exact opposite on aspirin) and it becomes harder to make create any new social connections.
 

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Because aspirin makes me less assertive and makes me kind of having some fear. Opposed to having that “nothing can stop me” feeling which I only have experienced with androgenic substances. Don’t miss understand me. The best way to get to that mental space is through life experiences where you can be truly flexible and face any circumstance. But sometimes you need these substances to get you out of a certain “box” where you were stuck. I know people who don’t take anything and they behave like they are in 1000mg of test and 100mg of proviron a week. Why? Because they came up and were raised in environments where being just a little “feminine” is a social suicide. In my opinion the best substance is something very dopaminergic, that gives you real flexibility in all environments. Androgenic stuff is good but in my experience I become really unsocial (the exact opposite on aspirin) and it becomes harder to make create any new social connections.

What are your favorite dopaminergic substances? My go-to has always been coffee/milk/sugar but I'd like to explore some nootropic options. I never properly explored that world cuz it's a bit overwhelming and also intimidating but I know it can have very positive merits if done properly.

I feel you on the resultant happiness after ejaculation. I feel the same way. It is infinitely better with a woman, but even on my own it is still pleasurable. The thing is that the oxytocin flow stops when solo because there is no other to engage with. Unless you fall in love with yourself or porn, which I believe is a not a good psychological option to take, then the oxytocin would keep flowing and the positive emotional state continue. Still way better to have that experience with a woman and experience the love bonding which is super healthy.

At best masturbation really is a cope, but it's not like it should be a shameful act, if one's direction is on the whole towards copulation with others. The psyche behind the act determines whether it is a healthy or unhealthy behavior.
 

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I’ve actually been using aspirin for a year and I experience decreased sex drive with it and very premature ejaculation which is frustrating as a man but no women have complained to be honest. Further on it makes my testicles smaller I’ve noticed and reduced output which isn’t as nice.
Coming also from a country with a very macho culture, using aspirin daily which makes me very chill and “feminine” isn’t acceptable lol. I know it sounds weird but I’d be labeled as a b**** by my friends who have a tougher background. But on a subjective level aspirin feels awesome and I feel like a child, which is exactly the problem. Being a man and a child or completely two different things. It became a rant but just some thoughts I had on my mind regarding aspirin a
How frequent were you taking it? And what doses?
 

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Clearly not, or you wouldn't have to do it so often. This is burning the jing (stored in the kidney+adrenals) and converting it into energy - that is what is relieving depression. Drugs can work to the same ends...
 
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What are your favorite dopaminergic substances? My go-to has always been coffee/milk/sugar but I'd like to explore some nootropic options. I never properly explored that world cuz it's a bit overwhelming and also intimidating but I know it can have very positive merits if done properly.

I feel you on the resultant happiness after ejaculation. I feel the same way. It is infinitely better with a woman, but even on my own it is still pleasurable. The thing is that the oxytocin flow stops when solo because there is no other to engage with. Unless you fall in love with yourself or porn, which I believe is a not a good psychological option to take, then the oxytocin would keep flowing and the positive emotional state continue. Still way better to have that experience with a woman and experience the love bonding which is super healthy.

At best masturbation really is a cope, but it's not like it should be a shameful act, if one's direction is on the whole towards copulation with others. The psyche behind the act determines whether it is a healthy or unhealthy behavior.
I feel most nootropics and dopaminergic stuff have some kind of trade off. For example 9 me bc. Makes me very focused and motivated but really unsocial. Same with adamantane. It depends as well with cultures you interact in. Swedish people are very laid back and make a lot of small talk and joke in my experience. At least for me dopaminergic stuff make me entirely indifferent to that.

Vitamin b6 feels pretty dopaminergic as well as p5p if I’m not mistaken.
Vitamin C is pretty dopaminergic.
Aspirin is dopaminergic socially but not at all goal oriented when I take it.

The reason i started exploring this stuff is cause I was hooked for a short period of time on vyvanse/adderall and that changed my life completely. Exactly every aspect of my life became by a large margin better. Unfortunately no doctor will prescribe it to me.
 
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I feel most nootropics and dopaminergic stuff have some kind of trade off. For example 9 me bc. Makes me very focused and motivated but really unsocial. Same with adamantane. It depends as well with cultures you interact in. Swedish people are very laid back and make a lot of small talk and joke in my experience. At least for me dopaminergic stuff make me entirely indifferent to that.

Vitamin b6 feels pretty dopaminergic as well as p5p if I’m not mistaken.
Vitamin C is pretty dopaminergic.
Aspirin is dopaminergic socially but not at all goal oriented when I take it.

The reason i started exploring this stuff is cause I was hooked for a short period of time on vyvanse/adderall and that changed my life completely. Exactly every aspect of my life became by a large margin better. Unfortunately no doctor will prescribe it to me.
But to be clear. Life experiences and winning in those experiences is the best sort of dopaminergic long term regulator in my opinion. Never giving up and never letting anyone step on you. Living after the right principles that you set out for yourself and setting and chasing your goals with all that you got.
 

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But to be clear. Life experiences and winning in those experiences is the best sort of dopaminergic long term regulator in my opinion. Never giving up and never letting anyone step on you. Living after the right principles that you set out for yourself and setting and chasing your goals with all that you got.

Kind of contradictory don’t you think that you ascribe to this mindset but are defeated at the docs not letting you get adderall/vyvanse? Online pharmacies, black market, etc… could get you that good stuff. There’s a couple Mexican pharmacies that people here use that could maybe hook it up.

I’m trying my best the natural route, mind over matter, making sure I have good nutrition, avoiding torpor, driving towards goals, etc… it’s ******* tough, always lookin for an edge where I can.

The focus supplement I just picked up has 8.5mg of P5P. Also has 100mg caffeine, 50mg l-Theanine, and then 900mg of a mix of bacopa, ashwaganda, and ginseng. 250mg of n-acetyl-l-Tyrosine.

It’s not bad. definitely don’t feel superhuman but it gives me a nice lil kick in the morning to get the breakfast going, do the routine chores, etc…
 

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I used to be the horniest the morning after a day of drinking. Seems like stress hormones, estrogen etc can have a hypersexual effect where you have this almost junkie-like feeling to sex. Seems like a very tense and selfish thing. A lot of this urge to cum I think is mainly a sign of a perverted mind from watching porn. I also think it hinders young people in the ability to differentiate between things like masculinity and assertiveness and aggression/selfishness etc
 
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How frequent were you taking it? And what doses?
Well I’ve been taking it on and off but the longest period I’ve went without taking it the last 1,5 year has been 2 weeks and usually I take anything between 500mg to 2-3 grams daily. I maybe take some days of here and there. I try every other month to go a week without it but it’s tough cause of the difference it makes on my mood.
 
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Kind of contradictory don’t you think that you ascribe to this mindset but are defeated at the docs not letting you get adderall/vyvanse? Online pharmacies, black market, etc… could get you that good stuff. There’s a couple Mexican pharmacies that people here use that could maybe hook it up.

I’m trying my best the natural route, mind over matter, making sure I have good nutrition, avoiding torpor, driving towards goals, etc… it’s ******* tough, always lookin for an edge where I can.

The focus supplement I just picked up has 8.5mg of P5P. Also has 100mg caffeine, 50mg l-Theanine, and then 900mg of a mix of bacopa, ashwaganda, and ginseng. 250mg of n-acetyl-l-Tyrosine.

It’s not bad. definitely don’t feel superhuman but it gives me a nice lil kick in the morning to get the breakfast going, do the routine chores, etc…
Well to clarify in my opinion it isn’t contradictory since I’ve from a young age have had some autistic traits and pretty bad life experiences have left some holes in my development. Like I wrote before, a lot of people are stuck. Highly dopamine elevating substances make people see life in a different perspective and make them dare to do more new stuff and explore the world more. I’m pretty sure this leads to a higher production of new cells in the brain and new neural connections. If you think of life as a sports game, dopamine is the best steroid out there to increase your chance of winning. As a man life is a competition with other men and even with your nearest friends you need to prove your worth daily and be willing to “fight” if you get disrespected. In my experience in a world where no one is afraid of god anymore almost everyone will try to step on you in some way until you stand your ground and show you are willing to fight.
 

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Well to clarify in my opinion it isn’t contradictory since I’ve from a young age have had some autistic traits and pretty bad life experiences have left some holes in my development. Like I wrote before, a lot of people are stuck. Highly dopamine elevating substances make people see life in a different perspective and make them dare to do more new stuff and explore the world more. I’m pretty sure this leads to a higher production of new cells in the brain and new neural connections. If you think of life as a sports game, dopamine is the best steroid out there to increase your chance of winning. As a man life is a competition with other men and even with your nearest friends you need to prove your worth daily and be willing to “fight” if you get disrespected. In my experience in a world where no one is afraid of god anymore almost everyone will try to step on you in some way until you stand your ground and show you are willing to fight.

I meant the contradiction in regards to letting doctors stop you from getting the drug you deeply desire.

I agree to an extent. I don’t think we need to be so competitive with each other to survive. Altruism and cooperation can go a long way for developing healthy happy societies. I am on a daily competition with myself though and not letting these damn negative coping behaviors to destroy my life and keep me from actualizing my full potential.
 
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I meant the contradiction in regards to letting doctors stop you from getting the drug you deeply desire.

I agree to an extent. I don’t think we need to be so competitive with each other to survive. Altruism and cooperation can go a long way for developing healthy happy societies. I am on a daily competition with myself though and not letting these damn negative coping behaviors to destroy my life and keep me from actualizing my full potential.
I’m sorry. I misunderstood you. I get what you mean now. Well it’s very difficult in Northern Europe. It’s extremely expensive in the black market and you get drug tested at work depending where you work.
 
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I meant the contradiction in regards to letting doctors stop you from getting the drug you deeply desire.

I agree to an extent. I don’t think we need to be so competitive with each other to survive. Altruism and cooperation can go a long way for developing healthy happy societies. I am on a daily competition with myself though and not letting these damn negative coping behaviors to destroy my life and keep me from actualizing my full potential.
Well I totally agree with you that altruism and cooperation is as important as being competitive. But true altruism is very rare these days in my experience as we are straying longer from god for every day that passes by. It may sound very cliche but this is what I have seen first hand in a Northern European first world country.
 

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