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Future versions of Neuralink will probably able to fix you up. If nothing works, wait until humanity can transcend and change your orientation the way you want.
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Basically when the movie Gattaca becomes reality.... or THX 1138. I guess take your pick. Yikes. Some times the tendency/desire to control every facet of one's humanity and the opinions that produces in this forum are disappointing and even scary.
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I think you're right that shame plays a big part in it, and at some point it's important to accept things as they are, but I don't think homosexuality is necessarily a given.
I want to qualify this by saying that to some extent, I believe all sexual beings (mammals at least) are on some level bisexual, and sexual activity with both sexes is not something that is problematic.
That being said, I think there is enough circumstantial evidence showing that homosexuality (lack of sexual response to the opposite sex) can be induced by environmental factors and I believe this is an interesting topic to dive into. I also suspect transsexuality is a manifestation of certain things going wrong, but in saying that there is no blame upon the individual person.
I know it's associated with the stigma of the old days of "trying to make people straight", but that shouldn't really be a factor if the research is not motivated by religious or social pressure.
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I just think it's really easy for heterosexuals or people who espouse a heteronormative perspective to conjecture about the cause and solution to what they view as a problem. I personally don't believe there is any specific cause of homosexuality. There is evidence for environmental factors, epigenetic changes in utero, hormones, etc. I don't think there is a one-size-fits-all explanation; Homosexuality is observed in the animal kingdom, and that sort of put any theories about being indoors and out of sunlight to bed IMO.
The reality is more complex. There's no way to test a person for homosexuality; it is not a pathology. Low levels of DHT or high levels of serotonin do not make a person gay. A certain biochemistry may just increase sexual behavior in general, and the rest explained by psychological conditioning or preoccupation. Is a highly sexual man who can satisfy his sexual needs with a woman but fantasizes about men while doing so gay?
If there was a way to reliably reverse (cure) homosexuality, I can imagine it being enforced by governments and leading to genocides in an effort to exterminate all homosexual influence. It would essentially act as proof that homosexuality is a disease.
The reality is more complex. There's no way to test a person for homosexuality; it is not a pathology. Low levels of DHT or high levels of serotonin do not make a person gay. A certain biochemistry may just increase sexual behavior in general, and the rest explained by psychological conditioning or preoccupation. Is a highly sexual man who can satisfy his sexual needs with a woman but fantasizes about men while doing so gay?
If there was a way to reliably reverse (cure) homosexuality, I can imagine it being enforced by governments and leading to genocides in an effort to exterminate all homosexual influence. It would essentially act as proof that homosexuality is a disease.
Quit watching porn and let your brain re-wire and resensitize itself to sexual arousal. Porn is poison. Continual use desensitizes you so that one requires progressively more weird/extreme porn in order to become aroused.
If you're not attracted to men, you're not gay.
It also sounds like you might be low T/low androgens. Read through/search on this forum on how to improve your hormone profile and raise testosterone naturally.
It means your androgenic hormones, the hormones that make men men (testosterone, DHT, etc.) is in the gutter. You need to improve it and you will start getting morning wood, feeling sexual arousal for women, etc.
Do you have any blood work you can share? I wouldn't be surprised if your testosterone levels are clinically hypogonadal.
Some people might naturally be born gay due to hormone exposure in the womb, but if it's a weird, twisted kind of perversion and not a by-birth same-sex romantic attraction then I would look into eliminating endotoxin (eat only sugar and no starch, maybe consider antibiotics) and avoiding phosphate as much as possible. Taking progesterone will probably also help by lowering excess sex hormones in a healthy way.
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Morgan
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How do I make myself even gayer? Running my hands over his chest hair, playing with his beard, the warmth and security of being in his hands, all that vibrant and passionate sexual energy, the beautiful deep resonance of his voice. Tell me how I can love men even more, I would like to ascend to an even higher level of gay.
Honestly though, it sounds to me like you are under a lot of stress, and I don't necessarily believe pornography itself is the problem but rather what one becomes obsessed or habitual with. It's very possible that addictions can form precisely because of stress, as a means to escape it or subdue the feeling momentarily. I'd recommend being careful with any advice that suggest radically changing or tampering with your hormonal profile before firstly addressing nutritional needs, and focusing on undoing the effects of stress. It may also be worth being far more patient with your sexuality, maybe practicing a lot more foreplay and just extended acts of intimacy.. this is what makes genuine sex with a loving partner far more valuable than any momentary release or visual stimuli.
Honestly though, it sounds to me like you are under a lot of stress, and I don't necessarily believe pornography itself is the problem but rather what one becomes obsessed or habitual with. It's very possible that addictions can form precisely because of stress, as a means to escape it or subdue the feeling momentarily. I'd recommend being careful with any advice that suggest radically changing or tampering with your hormonal profile before firstly addressing nutritional needs, and focusing on undoing the effects of stress. It may also be worth being far more patient with your sexuality, maybe practicing a lot more foreplay and just extended acts of intimacy.. this is what makes genuine sex with a loving partner far more valuable than any momentary release or visual stimuli.
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I don't think you are gay man... Something is definitely up mentally and possibly hormonally:
1. No morning wood at 18 is abnormal
2. No spontaneous erections at 18 is abnormal
3. Inability to get it up with real life women OR men at 18 is abnormal ( I think this is what you said right?)
4. Thinking you are asexual through puberty is abnormal
This really sounds to me like, at least partially, a case of porn induced ED and hardcore desensitization. Your first porn you watched was lesbian (seems like an unusual porn to watch for a gay guy I think but what do I know) and then you went to...zoophilia. Right off the bat you have conditioned yourself to like "taboo" and extreme things. Possibly you have used a death grip in masturbation which is why you are the only one that can stimulate yourself to an erection.
I apologize if I am getting too personal but I peeped your other thread and you seem to exhibit a certain level of neuroticism about your genetics and a negative self image. I'm not a psychologist but it seems like logically this could lead to masochistic tendencies. Regarding your specific situation maybe you are watching porn and imagining yourself as the women or gay man because you have conditioned yourself to getting off on humiliating or destroying yourself. Being forced in an unwanted situation like someone else mentioned. If this is the case maybe trauma needs to be addressed and resolved. The trauma does not necessarily have to be sexual, but maybe something that left you feeling powerless or worthless or humiliated. Maybe high serotonin in relation to dopamine has something to do with this physiologically?
Some dissociative tendencies as well might be at play if you never leave your house.
Hormonally a lot of people here have mentioned stuff that makes sense to do so I would take their advice. Supporting the metabolism and getting proper nutrients is crucial. Especially if you are working out a lot. If not it can throw your hormones off balance. One thing that hasn't been mentioned is pelvic floor health. For this you have to think back to your masturbation habits. When masturbating do you find yourself constantly kegeling? Clenching your lower body/buttocks? Do you have any muscle knots in the glutes, hamstrings, hip flexors or any other part of the lower body? How is your flexibility? Look into anterior and posterior pelvic tilt and muscular imbalances. I have a hunch that your androgenic hormones are fine based on your pictures, but if your pelvic floor muscles are chronically tensed or cramped or twisted up, your blood flow to the genitals is going to be significantly reduced. It is easy for sexuality to become more intellectualized and "heady" instead of natural and instinctual when your genitals are compromised like this.
So number 1 thing quit porn
Number 2 look into your nutrition and hormones, especially stress related in your case, and possible mental hurdles
Number 3 look into pelvic floor health
Good luck bro.
1. No morning wood at 18 is abnormal
2. No spontaneous erections at 18 is abnormal
3. Inability to get it up with real life women OR men at 18 is abnormal ( I think this is what you said right?)
4. Thinking you are asexual through puberty is abnormal
This really sounds to me like, at least partially, a case of porn induced ED and hardcore desensitization. Your first porn you watched was lesbian (seems like an unusual porn to watch for a gay guy I think but what do I know) and then you went to...zoophilia. Right off the bat you have conditioned yourself to like "taboo" and extreme things. Possibly you have used a death grip in masturbation which is why you are the only one that can stimulate yourself to an erection.
I apologize if I am getting too personal but I peeped your other thread and you seem to exhibit a certain level of neuroticism about your genetics and a negative self image. I'm not a psychologist but it seems like logically this could lead to masochistic tendencies. Regarding your specific situation maybe you are watching porn and imagining yourself as the women or gay man because you have conditioned yourself to getting off on humiliating or destroying yourself. Being forced in an unwanted situation like someone else mentioned. If this is the case maybe trauma needs to be addressed and resolved. The trauma does not necessarily have to be sexual, but maybe something that left you feeling powerless or worthless or humiliated. Maybe high serotonin in relation to dopamine has something to do with this physiologically?
Some dissociative tendencies as well might be at play if you never leave your house.
Hormonally a lot of people here have mentioned stuff that makes sense to do so I would take their advice. Supporting the metabolism and getting proper nutrients is crucial. Especially if you are working out a lot. If not it can throw your hormones off balance. One thing that hasn't been mentioned is pelvic floor health. For this you have to think back to your masturbation habits. When masturbating do you find yourself constantly kegeling? Clenching your lower body/buttocks? Do you have any muscle knots in the glutes, hamstrings, hip flexors or any other part of the lower body? How is your flexibility? Look into anterior and posterior pelvic tilt and muscular imbalances. I have a hunch that your androgenic hormones are fine based on your pictures, but if your pelvic floor muscles are chronically tensed or cramped or twisted up, your blood flow to the genitals is going to be significantly reduced. It is easy for sexuality to become more intellectualized and "heady" instead of natural and instinctual when your genitals are compromised like this.
So number 1 thing quit porn
Number 2 look into your nutrition and hormones, especially stress related in your case, and possible mental hurdles
Number 3 look into pelvic floor health
Good luck bro.
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Haha definitely estradiol, SSRIs, starch, PUFAs, and sitting in front of your computer all day.
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Morgan
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Well, I avoid all of those things and every attempt I've made to improve my well being has also improved my desire to be in a loving romantic relationship. I'd also like to see some unbiased comprehensive citations on how any of those have anything to do with changing or altering sexual preference.
Oh, oops.
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To be clear, that was a joke
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good luck
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I wouldn’t recommend messing with any of these hormones exogenously at your age except maybe vitamin D and K2. Maybe just focus on changing a few variables about your social life. Stop watching porn and spend more time around people who you feel are a good influence. Since your teeth and gums are bothering you a lot, why not spend your money on dentistry (a teeth cleaning) and orthodontics instead? For gum health I find simply lightly brushing teeth and gums with baking soda after meals is all I need to impress my dental hygienist.
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I think you should watch more porn. Maybe even draw your own
Also fap as much as possible. Use it or lose it, and the more you use it the more it is
Also fap as much as possible. Use it or lose it, and the more you use it the more it is
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Michael Mohn
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Obsessive behaviour, dom sub fetishism and low libido is linked to high serotonin and high estrogen maybe. Some pregnenolone plus a few milligrams of dhea can help. Cyproheptadine, quinine, ginger and lots of other things can lower serotonin and boost dopamine. Eating low pufa you probably have figured out by now.
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