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Gut inflammation can cause hypersexuality and cravings for porn that doesn't match your sexual orientation. Psychological/emotional stress can also be a powerful trigger -- however the stressful/anxious/OCD thoughts often arise or become amplified as a result of an inflamed and leaky digestive tract.

Here's what I would recommend:

1. Try eating a fiberless diet of meat, fruit/fruit juice and dairy. Well-cooked mushrooms can help clean out the gut.

2. If temps and pulse aren't optimal (98.6 F and 85 BPM), and you have cold hands and feet, or other hypothyroid symptoms, you might also benefit from thyroid supplementation.

3. Stop watching porn. Remove the stressors in your life that makes you crave porn as a means of self-medicating.

You might be interested in reading @stargazer1111 posts about the connection between gut irritation and hypersexuality.
Wow! The bit about about gut irritation and hypersexuality matches my experience to a tee! My sex drive during my IBS/Sibo years was out of control sometimes, I was trying to have sex with random people and coworkers too and it got me to uncomfortable situations lots of times. Meanwhile my digestion and general health was a disaster. It has to have something to do with serotonine. Can you recommend any resources on this topic?
 

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Chelate mercury, raise tryptophan
Tryptophan Is Toxic To Brain; Taurine Reverses Toxic Effects
Aspirin Inhibits Tryptophan Absorption From The Intestine

"The myth that free amino acids are “natural nutritional substances” has been used to promote the use of many products besides MSG, including aspartame, chelated minerals, and tryptophan.

Although several amino acids can be acutely or chronically toxic, even lethal, when too much is eaten, tryptophan is the only amino acid that is also carcinogenic. (It can also produce a variety of toxic metabolites, and it is very susceptible to damage by radiation.) Since tryptophan is the precursor of serotonin, the amount of tryptophan in the diet can have important effects on the way the organism responds to stress, and the way it develops, adapts, and ages."
Tryptophan, serotonin, and aging
 
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How do I make myself even gayer? Running my hands over his chest hair, playing with his beard, the warmth and security of being in his hands, all that vibrant and passionate sexual energy, the beautiful deep resonance of his voice. Tell me how I can love men even more, I would like to ascend to an even higher level of gay.

Honestly though, it sounds to me like you are under a lot of stress, and I don't necessarily believe pornography itself is the problem but rather what one becomes obsessed or habitual with. It's very possible that addictions can form precisely because of stress, as a means to escape it or subdue the feeling momentarily. I'd recommend being careful with any advice that suggest radically changing or tampering with your hormonal profile before firstly addressing nutritional needs, and focusing on undoing the effects of stress. It may also be worth being far more patient with your sexuality, maybe practicing a lot more foreplay and just extended acts of intimacy.. this is what makes genuine sex with a loving partner far more valuable than any momentary release or visual stimuli.
Second this.
 

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Tryptophan Is Toxic To Brain; Taurine Reverses Toxic Effects
Aspirin Inhibits Tryptophan Absorption From The Intestine

"The myth that free amino acids are “natural nutritional substances” has been used to promote the use of many products besides MSG, including aspartame, chelated minerals, and tryptophan.

Although several amino acids can be acutely or chronically toxic, even lethal, when too much is eaten, tryptophan is the only amino acid that is also carcinogenic. (It can also produce a variety of toxic metabolites, and it is very susceptible to damage by radiation.) Since tryptophan is the precursor of serotonin, the amount of tryptophan in the diet can have important effects on the way the organism responds to stress, and the way it develops, adapts, and ages."
Tryptophan, serotonin, and aging
 

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Lack of estrogen in brain causes bisexuality

Shutting off serotonin turns lab rat study into an orgy

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pCPA was used extensively in the 60s and 70s especially by US military scientist for some unique and I'd say bizarre experiments. It was used as a drug to induce "gay" behavior in humans, but they found out that it simply increased libido dramatically, where in the rats it made them lose preference for sexual partners and made them mount even...cats! So, it's not like the rats became gay, they just lost all fear and dedicated themselves to sexual "exploration" (even with cats), which, as you know from reading Peat, is a hallmark of health.
The reason it is not widely used is probably similar to the reasons LSD is not widely used - the paradigm or drugs acting against serotonin is that they are all evil and make people crazy. On top of that, since it is a simple amino acid and can be synthesized very cheaply, it's probably hard to make it illegal or patent it.
In Europe, pCPA is used off-label to quickly reverse sexual dysfunction in people with heavy SSRI use, alcoholics, PSTD sufferrers, steroid-damaged bodybuilders, etc.
I'd be interested as well in hearing Peat's opinion but so far I have not seen a single study or anecdotal report of it coming even close in terms of harmfullness compared to things like SSRI, or even some of the prolactin inhibitors like cabergoline."
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Lack of estrogen in brain causes bisexuality

Shutting off serotonin turns lab rat study into an orgy

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pCPA was used extensively in the 60s and 70s especially by US military scientist for some unique and I'd say bizarre experiments. It was used as a drug to induce "gay" behavior in humans, but they found out that it simply increased libido dramatically, where in the rats it made them lose preference for sexual partners and made them mount even...cats! So, it's not like the rats became gay, they just lost all fear and dedicated themselves to sexual "exploration" (even with cats), which, as you know from reading Peat, is a hallmark of health.
The reason it is not widely used is probably similar to the reasons LSD is not widely used - the paradigm or drugs acting against serotonin is that they are all evil and make people crazy. On top of that, since it is a simple amino acid and can be synthesized very cheaply, it's probably hard to make it illegal or patent it.
In Europe, pCPA is used off-label to quickly reverse sexual dysfunction in people with heavy SSRI use, alcoholics, PSTD sufferrers, steroid-damaged bodybuilders, etc.
I'd be interested as well in hearing Peat's opinion but so far I have not seen a single study or anecdotal report of it coming even close in terms of harmfullness compared to things like SSRI, or even some of the prolactin inhibitors like cabergoline."
-Affordable Source Of Pcpa (fenclonine)

Interesting. Sounds like my homosexual room mate who also banged girls when he felt like it. He was still a homosexual though. I bet his tryptophan/serotonin levels were low.
 

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hahahah! I would also advice OP to use progesterone and androsterone along with dht and testosterone. 15:1 p:Anro.
 

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Lack of estrogen in brain causes bisexuality

Shutting off serotonin turns lab rat study into an orgy

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pCPA was used extensively in the 60s and 70s especially by US military scientist for some unique and I'd say bizarre experiments. It was used as a drug to induce "gay" behavior in humans, but they found out that it simply increased libido dramatically, where in the rats it made them lose preference for sexual partners and made them mount even...cats! So, it's not like the rats became gay, they just lost all fear and dedicated themselves to sexual "exploration" (even with cats), which, as you know from reading Peat, is a hallmark of health.
The reason it is not widely used is probably similar to the reasons LSD is not widely used - the paradigm or drugs acting against serotonin is that they are all evil and make people crazy. On top of that, since it is a simple amino acid and can be synthesized very cheaply, it's probably hard to make it illegal or patent it.
In Europe, pCPA is used off-label to quickly reverse sexual dysfunction in people with heavy SSRI use, alcoholics, PSTD sufferrers, steroid-damaged bodybuilders, etc.
I'd be interested as well in hearing Peat's opinion but so far I have not seen a single study or anecdotal report of it coming even close in terms of harmfullness compared to things like SSRI, or even some of the prolactin inhibitors like cabergoline."
-Affordable Source Of Pcpa (fenclonine)
It's strange, only when you have high estrogen you will crave sex a lot, because estrogen acts like cocaine.
 

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I wonder what causes homosexual / cuckold OCD in men, I bet it's hormonal to a large degree.
It reminds me of this passive-aggresive military strike Gay bomb - Wikipedia

Free weird porn, pufa everywhere in food stores, estrogen promovation like it cures covid etc, 5g, vaccines and list goes on seems like the perfect gay bomb attack without a bomb if u know what i mean in the end results will achieve same things jfl

@haidut should really make a HomoNon product asap i predict many threads like this in near future
 

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If you don't want to quit porn doesn't seem like you will ever attain normal function. Porn is ruining young boys lives. Very sad. Just check out reddit subforums and this isn't a rare occurrence.
 

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As a gay person, I find reading these kinds of threads depressing. I've taken lots of things to lower serotonin, and even taken DHT but NOT with the intention of turning straight. Attraction to the opposite sex has never been a side effect.

I mean, if homosexuality is epigenetic in cause, it might be theoretically possible to turn straight IDK. But I feel like the desire for that is rooted in shame more than anything.
I would agree with you but his situation seems much different, he does not seem to be gay. If I had to guess his issue seems to be related to cuckoldism. A man with a healthy hormonal profile will usually feel invincible, like he's on top of the world. Men with an unhealthy hormonal profile that leads them to low libido, trouble pleasing their girlfriend and low self esteem will often start getting off to imagining their girlfriend with a guy that has all the qualities they are lacking. This will often progress to imagining the guy forcing them to join in to please him. They have no romantic attachment with men, it's more of an extreme form of submissiveness. I don't think anyone knows why this happens but maybe genes are not so selfless since this seems like a mechanism to create healthier offspring at the expense of the individual's genes.

And while an unhealthy hormonal profile can create that it also goes both ways. Men who are humiliated or lose in a competition (dominated in some area essentially) start producing more estrogen and less testosterone for some time, so feelings of inferiority and inadequacy or mentally beating yourself up can also bring on negative hormonal changes. This is why while stopping the consumption of porn won't cure the issue in itself, it's probably a necessary step to break the negative feedback loop that keeps him in this state once other issues are addressed.

I personally would email Peat to get an idea of what hormones to test for and come back to him with the results. It may be necessary to get hormone replacement to undo this situation, but at the same time there's a lot of things you could do to improve regardless. With some luck hormone replacement won't even be necessary. Some of them could be:

- Correct your sunlight deficiency. You can take vitamin D if you can't take some midday sun (not too much since UV is high) but you should also correct your red light deficiency either through taking ample morning and afternoon sun, as well as short frequent sunlight exposure, or through red light therapy as has been suggested before
- Slowly work up to taking a tablespoon or two of coconut oil. This is the only pro-thyroid substance that isn't a hormone according to Peat. Mix it with grated carrot and some vinegar and olive oil for even better effects as the carrot fiber will carry it deep into the intestines and bind to estrogen so it won't get reabsorbed.
- Taking enough calcium, magnesium and sodium (and probably fruits and honey). You can let your cravings lead you
- Never breathe through your mouth in training, and try to breathe less if possible. Don't go overboard and outright hold your breath, but fewer controlled breaths can build up your CO2 tolerance and give you better oxygen consumption. Check out UFC fighter Tony Ferguson's fights and look how little he breathes while his opponent is hyperventilating since before the fight starts. He is known for superhuman endurance, never breathing heavy even in late rounds and being able to take an incredible amount of punishment.
- Try to stop porn, and if you watch it imagine yourself in the dominant position.
- As you improve, try to feel like you're the man. Even if you get beat up in sparring, it's normal. You're not an inferior man who is getting beat up by stronger better men, you're a young hungry lion sharpening his skills against much more experienced fighters. Losing shouldn't make you feel inferior, it should make you even hungrier to become better and be on top of the world. You're probably already stronger and more skilled than 99% of the population but that doesn't help if you get humbled in sparring every day. If you feel like that try to reframe your mentality. If the same beating just lights a fire inside you to become the best then it won't produce negative hormonal effects.

Good luck!
 

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Do not listen to them, watch more porn and fap more. It is your physiology not the porn
 

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I would agree with you but his situation seems much different, he does not seem to be gay. If I had to guess his issue seems to be related to cuckoldism. A man with a healthy hormonal profile will usually feel invincible, like he's on top of the world. Men with an unhealthy hormonal profile that leads them to low libido, trouble pleasing their girlfriend and low self esteem will often start getting off to imagining their girlfriend with a guy that has all the qualities they are lacking. This will often progress to imagining the guy forcing them to join in to please him. They have no romantic attachment with men, it's more of an extreme form of submissiveness. I don't think anyone knows why this happens but maybe genes are not so selfless since this seems like a mechanism to create healthier offspring at the expense of the individual's genes.

And while an unhealthy hormonal profile can create that it also goes both ways. Men who are humiliated or lose in a competition (dominated in some area essentially) start producing more estrogen and less testosterone for some time, so feelings of inferiority and inadequacy or mentally beating yourself up can also bring on negative hormonal changes. This is why while stopping the consumption of porn won't cure the issue in itself, it's probably a necessary step to break the negative feedback loop that keeps him in this state once other issues are addressed.

I personally would email Peat to get an idea of what hormones to test for and come back to him with the results. It may be necessary to get hormone replacement to undo this situation, but at the same time there's a lot of things you could do to improve regardless. With some luck hormone replacement won't even be necessary. Some of them could be:

- Correct your sunlight deficiency. You can take vitamin D if you can't take some midday sun (not too much since UV is high) but you should also correct your red light deficiency either through taking ample morning and afternoon sun, as well as short frequent sunlight exposure, or through red light therapy as has been suggested before
- Slowly work up to taking a tablespoon or two of coconut oil. This is the only pro-thyroid substance that isn't a hormone according to Peat. Mix it with grated carrot and some vinegar and olive oil for even better effects as the carrot fiber will carry it deep into the intestines and bind to estrogen so it won't get reabsorbed.
- Taking enough calcium, magnesium and sodium (and probably fruits and honey). You can let your cravings lead you
- Never breathe through your mouth in training, and try to breathe less if possible. Don't go overboard and outright hold your breath, but fewer controlled breaths can build up your CO2 tolerance and give you better oxygen consumption. Check out UFC fighter Tony Ferguson's fights and look how little he breathes while his opponent is hyperventilating since before the fight starts. He is known for superhuman endurance, never breathing heavy even in late rounds and being able to take an incredible amount of punishment.
- Try to stop porn, and if you watch it imagine yourself in the dominant position.
- As you improve, try to feel like you're the man. Even if you get beat up in sparring, it's normal. You're not an inferior man who is getting beat up by stronger better men, you're a young hungry lion sharpening his skills against much more experienced fighters. Losing shouldn't make you feel inferior, it should make you even hungrier to become better and be on top of the world. You're probably already stronger and more skilled than 99% of the population but that doesn't help if you get humbled in sparring every day. If you feel like that try to reframe your mentality. If the same beating just lights a fire inside you to become the best then it won't produce negative hormonal effects.

Good luck!
Hypothyroidism in the mother may lead to gay offspring
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"Male homosexuals have T level comparable to heterosexual males but their DHT/androsterone levels are much lower. Not sure about females.
The drug finasteride was inspired by studying a group of people with an inborn 5-AR deficiency. As children they are hermaphrodites and when they grow up their T levels are normal so they can get quite muscular but still look and act quite "gay" (no offense meant here). So, some kind of hormonal dysregulation seems to occur either in the womb or early childhood that primes the brain to be either male or female. If there is a mismatch with what the actual physical sex of the person is then this is person is probably going to be either gay or transgender.
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Why Does Homosexual People Looks Muscular In Both Gender?
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Androsterone-etiocholanolone ratios​

Higher than 1 = heterosexual, and less than 1 = homosexual.
Serotonin is known to lower that ratio, so if the sexual orientation does indeed depend on that ratio anything that opposes serotonin should make a person less interested in the same sex.
Androsterone-etiocholanolone ratios in male homosexuals - PubMed
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The studies I have seen show that females are possibly naturally bisexual while bisexual males show identical brain activation as homosexual males. The bisexual male is now considered to be mostly sporadic events due to social pressure mostly. However, there are quite a few documented studies on reversal of homosexual males sexual preference and it is almost always exclusive - no maintenance of bisexuality or ambiguity. There has been reversal of the reversal as well - back to exclusively homosexual, but from what I understand males do not really have a neurological framework for true bisexualism/ambiguity like women do."
Turned Straight After 14 Months Of Peating
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"Sexual preferences are very malleable and depend mostly on steroids and neurotransmitters. Subsequent studies have confirmed ratios of DHT/estradiol, and even activity of the enzyme 17,20-lyase as involved in determining heterosexual or homosexual behavior.

It also said homosexual populations tend to have an increased incidence of "autoimmune" conditions:
"...Finally, failure to find significant results in male subjects may stem from methodology: both sexes are affected in the present study as might be expected. Finally, a recent study that reported increased rates of certain autoimmune diseases in homosexual individuals but no increased overall risk can best be explained with the mechanism presented in our study."
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Gut inflammation can cause hypersexuality and cravings for porn that doesn't match your sexual orientation. Psychological/emotional stress can also be a powerful trigger -- however the stressful/anxious/OCD thoughts often arise or become amplified as a result of an inflamed and leaky digestive tract.

Here's what I would recommend:

1. Try eating a fiberless diet of meat, fruit/fruit juice and dairy. Well-cooked mushrooms can help clean out the gut.

2. If temps and pulse aren't optimal (98.6 F and 85 BPM), and you have cold hands and feet, or other hypothyroid symptoms, you might also benefit from thyroid supplementation.

3. Stop watching porn. Remove the stressors in your life that makes you crave porn as a means of self-medicating.

You might be interested in reading @stargazer1111 posts about the connection between gut irritation and hypersexuality.

How fiberless do you recommend the diet be? Because dates, figs, oranges all have some fiber and especially if youre eating a thousand calories of fruits youll get some significant fiber. Even orange juice has some fiber. should we focus on juice. I was curious on Rays thoughts because store bought juice is pasteurized generally... whereas with a fruit you are having it in its raw form, not treated.
 

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How fiberless do you recommend the diet be? Because dates, figs, oranges all have some fiber and especially if youre eating a thousand calories of fruits youll get some significant fiber. Even orange juice has some fiber. should we focus on juice. I was curious on Rays thoughts because store bought juice is pasteurized generally... whereas with a fruit you are having it in its raw form, not treated.
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Ray: It’s probably the essential thing that everyone should think about more, because the connection can be traced pretty directly to Alzheimer disease and other dementias and liver disease, heart disease, arthritis. They’ve known for many years that various types of arthritis are alleviated by prolonged fasting, because of relief of the inflammation in the intestines when a person stops eating for a while, but the laxatives and the purgatives are really, the… um, a more practical way to prevent that chronic inflammation. Starches and indigestible fibers have been tested on various animals, from horses to rats and practically all of the fibers that are used as food additives, carrageenan and guar gum and various other gums, oat bran and even some of the semi-synthetic things, Metamucil, agar and psyllium, all have been identified as carcinogen for the intestines and possibly other organs and getting those out quickly before they support bacterial growth and ferment. Yeah the fermentative bacteria are known to increase the serotonin and lactic acid production. There is a back and forth increase of endotoxin by the serotonin and vice and versa. And all of these, both serotonin and endotoxin increase other factors such as carbon monoxide, surprisingly. That’s another of our short term, primitive defensive systems is the oxidation of the heme molecule and that releases carbon monoxide, that is protective in some ways in the short term, but in the long range, it is known to be closely associated with Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, brain injury, any kinds of tissue injury. It activates the conversion of pufas to inflammatory prostaglandins and all of these tend to release more of the free fatty acids, so it becomes a viscous circle of starch, serotonin, endotoxin and so on…

Int: What’s your take on dietary fiber?

Ray: The two that I have run across in literature and experimentation are raw carrots and cooked bamboo shoots.

Int: These don’t support bad bacteria?

Ray: They are antiseptic or antibiotic in themselves. You can store them for a surprisingly long time, whereas other vegetables tend to rot if you store them in a wet condition, but carrots are used to living in moist soil and so they can kill the fungus and bacteria.

Int: And so as a side note in the kitchen, they make these bamboo fiber towels and everyone knows that with cotton towels after one day of use they don’t smell so good. I guess it’s cause they’re supporting bacterial growth. But the bamboo towels, they are amazing they don’t smell as bad as the cotton towels the next day.

Ray: Yeah they don’t think all of the chemicals have been identified. It’s partly that the cellulose is very resistant to bacterial break down in itself, but it doesn’t have things like pectin. Pectin does support some of the bad bacterial growth and fermentation and the so called soluble fibers in beans and other legumes support bacterial and toxin production.

Int: Why do you think the medical and agricultural industry has been so keen to push dietary fiber down the necks of people? Traditionally we ate a low fiber diet from grains, but I mean we would have eaten our fruit and vegetables but…

Ray: The fibers like the acacia and guar gum. These things are very convenient for food processing. Carrageenan is now very widely used. They can increase the weight of meat by as much as 30% by injecting this water retaining gum and it’s used instead of cream for making ice cream, so it has a very long shelf life. Where if you used a good cream or coconut oil you could get a very fine texture that would last a long time, but it’s a just matter of cheapness of carrageenan and these other gums.

Int: Traditionally we would have eaten potatoes and South America ate a lot of masa, which has been partially digested. So what can we do with the grains and thinking about how tradition has eaten starches and cooked with it?

Ray: Dennis Burkin (no clue how to spell his last name) who sorta started the fiber fad about 30 years ago, when he discovered that Africans didn’t have a very high incident of bowel and liver cancer, and that they tended to have three bowel movements per day, where Americans are more likely to have one or fewer. He thought that fiber prevented the retention of carcinogenic toxins, but he was primarily talking about potatoes and when he came to the US and saw that people were interpreting it as oat fiber, oat bran and various other grain fibers. A few people outside of the US did research showing that those in fact increased cancer incidences.

Int: So if someone were to eat root vegetables and boil them very very well this helps to break down the starches so it doesn’t provide very much food for the bacteria and saturated fats put on the starches helps to inhibit the growth of bacteria, so mashed potatoes with lots of coconut oil and some butter for some flavour or if you need to gain weight, lots of butter.

Ray: Yeah and it happens that phosphate which you get in the grains and this might really be a part of why the fiber in grains is carcinogenic from grains, cause seeds and nuts and grains are so rich in phosphate and phosphate stimulates the breakdown of these soluble or indigestible fiber by bacteria, and calcium blocks that, phospholosis by bacteria so a high calcium, low phosphate diet goes with saturated fats in suppressing the toxic effect of the starches.
Serotonin, Endotoxins, Stress, KMUD Herb Doctors, 2011
 

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Ray: It’s probably the essential thing that everyone should think about more, because the connection can be traced pretty directly to Alzheimer disease and other dementias and liver disease, heart disease, arthritis. They’ve known for many years that various types of arthritis are alleviated by prolonged fasting, because of relief of the inflammation in the intestines when a person stops eating for a while, but the laxatives and the purgatives are really, the… um, a more practical way to prevent that chronic inflammation. Starches and indigestible fibers have been tested on various animals, from horses to rats and practically all of the fibers that are used as food additives, carrageenan and guar gum and various other gums, oat bran and even some of the semi-synthetic things, Metamucil, agar and psyllium, all have been identified as carcinogen for the intestines and possibly other organs and getting those out quickly before they support bacterial growth and ferment. Yeah the fermentative bacteria are known to increase the serotonin and lactic acid production. There is a back and forth increase of endotoxin by the serotonin and vice and versa. And all of these, both serotonin and endotoxin increase other factors such as carbon monoxide, surprisingly. That’s another of our short term, primitive defensive systems is the oxidation of the heme molecule and that releases carbon monoxide, that is protective in some ways in the short term, but in the long range, it is known to be closely associated with Alzheimer’s disease, cancer, brain injury, any kinds of tissue injury. It activates the conversion of pufas to inflammatory prostaglandins and all of these tend to release more of the free fatty acids, so it becomes a viscous circle of starch, serotonin, endotoxin and so on…

Int: What’s your take on dietary fiber?

Ray: The two that I have run across in literature and experimentation are raw carrots and cooked bamboo shoots.

Int: These don’t support bad bacteria?

Ray: They are antiseptic or antibiotic in themselves. You can store them for a surprisingly long time, whereas other vegetables tend to rot if you store them in a wet condition, but carrots are used to living in moist soil and so they can kill the fungus and bacteria.

Int: And so as a side note in the kitchen, they make these bamboo fiber towels and everyone knows that with cotton towels after one day of use they don’t smell so good. I guess it’s cause they’re supporting bacterial growth. But the bamboo towels, they are amazing they don’t smell as bad as the cotton towels the next day.

Ray: Yeah they don’t think all of the chemicals have been identified. It’s partly that the cellulose is very resistant to bacterial break down in itself, but it doesn’t have things like pectin. Pectin does support some of the bad bacterial growth and fermentation and the so called soluble fibers in beans and other legumes support bacterial and toxin production.

Int: Why do you think the medical and agricultural industry has been so keen to push dietary fiber down the necks of people? Traditionally we ate a low fiber diet from grains, but I mean we would have eaten our fruit and vegetables but…

Ray: The fibers like the acacia and guar gum. These things are very convenient for food processing. Carrageenan is now very widely used. They can increase the weight of meat by as much as 30% by injecting this water retaining gum and it’s used instead of cream for making ice cream, so it has a very long shelf life. Where if you used a good cream or coconut oil you could get a very fine texture that would last a long time, but it’s a just matter of cheapness of carrageenan and these other gums.

Int: Traditionally we would have eaten potatoes and South America ate a lot of masa, which has been partially digested. So what can we do with the grains and thinking about how tradition has eaten starches and cooked with it?

Ray: Dennis Burkin (no clue how to spell his last name) who sorta started the fiber fad about 30 years ago, when he discovered that Africans didn’t have a very high incident of bowel and liver cancer, and that they tended to have three bowel movements per day, where Americans are more likely to have one or fewer. He thought that fiber prevented the retention of carcinogenic toxins, but he was primarily talking about potatoes and when he came to the US and saw that people were interpreting it as oat fiber, oat bran and various other grain fibers. A few people outside of the US did research showing that those in fact increased cancer incidences.

Int: So if someone were to eat root vegetables and boil them very very well this helps to break down the starches so it doesn’t provide very much food for the bacteria and saturated fats put on the starches helps to inhibit the growth of bacteria, so mashed potatoes with lots of coconut oil and some butter for some flavour or if you need to gain weight, lots of butter.

Ray: Yeah and it happens that phosphate which you get in the grains and this might really be a part of why the fiber in grains is carcinogenic from grains, cause seeds and nuts and grains are so rich in phosphate and phosphate stimulates the breakdown of these soluble or indigestible fiber by bacteria, and calcium blocks that, phospholosis by bacteria so a high calcium, low phosphate diet goes with saturated fats in suppressing the toxic effect of the starches.
Serotonin, Endotoxins, Stress, KMUD Herb Doctors, 2011

Ive seen that quote, but how can a fiber free diet be possible while eating fruits? A single orange or fig has like 2g fiber, and thats the smaller ones... larger ones have even more fiber.
 
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