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johnwester130

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Very interesting. I may try a Defibron and Beta Lapachone combination for the scalp. Is it possible to get Beta Lapachone that isn't bright yellow like the Lapodin product lol? Don't want to look crazy.

I didn't know lapodin stains.

Maybe it is not necessary, it was just something interesting I found

defibron may be enough to restore it.
So would any saturated fat but this product looks a lot more potent
 

Tansia

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Has anyone used Defibron after surgery? I'm planning to do it and hope it will minimise adhesion after surgery, would you agree that's a good idea?
 

Tansia

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Has anyone used Defibron after surgery? I'm planning to do it and hope it will minimise adhesion after surgery, would you agree that's a good idea?
@haidut do you know if Defibron would affect healing after surgery or it will only prevent a formation of adhesions?
 

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Probably low blood sugar... but shouldn't it improve glycogen stores overtime ?!
That's the obvious conclusion but I get my milk/juice all throughout the day. Read today Peat said that DHEA makes the cell use sugar better so it leads to more energy. I always get a very energetic response to DHEA, and the FFA inhibitors (niacinamide, aspirin, pyrucet) make me get that low blood sugar feeling easily. Not sure what to make of it.
 

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That's the obvious conclusion but I get my milk/juice all throughout the day. Read today Peat said that DHEA makes the cell use sugar better so it leads to more energy. I always get a very energetic response to DHEA, and the FFA inhibitors (niacinamide, aspirin, pyrucet) make me get that low blood sugar feeling easily. Not sure what to make of it.
Yeah me too . I just gonna try it out . So far obvious dopaminergic effects from just 1 drop. Better mood , harder muscles , feel a very stimulated almost overstimulated. I hope it helps with bloating .
 

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Yeah me too . I just gonna try it out . So far obvious dopaminergic effects from just 1 drop. Better mood , harder muscles , feel a very stimulated almost overstimulated. I hope it helps with bloating .
How are you doing on it? Noticed any real benefits?
 

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I usually use 20 drops of defibron to the navel/abdominal area. I notice mental benefits pretty quickly from it (alertness and mood enhancing).

I've gotten tired/agitated from it too. After increasing natural sugar intake (honey and fruits) I feel better/calmer
 

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I am not noticing any effects from this at the full dose, oral or topical. As another poster mentioned, it may be because I already eat a boatload of long-chain saturated fats.
 

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I've had strong endotoxin/weak liver symptoms recently and couldn't really get rid of them the past few weeks. A dose of around 25 drops of Defibron on the abdomen seems to help considerably.
Also I usually take 1-2 drops on each temple every night and whenever I don't I have a harder time falling asleep. I suspect I've got inadequate cerebral blood flow and in one of the previous posts Haidut mentioned even a low dose can help so maybe that's one of the reasons why.

Edit. Forgot to add I've also took some MitoLipin (hard to say how many drops because it's in a gel-like state) to the 25 drop Defibron dose, so it's possible that some effect may be due to that as well.
 
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Mac Rilla

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I’ve been using DeFibron for 3 weeks now. While I had an immediate effect from it I wanted to take a few weeks to really see the big picture and also to compose a thoughtful review.

My background: I probably had my first TBI around 8 or 9 and another at 19. Knowing a decent amount about neurology now and looking back at the head injuries I sustained and some of the after effects it seems pretty clear I had actual brain injuries. On top of this I have probably had dozens of concussions and spent a good amount of time in the military, part of which was on an assault team where we were shooting in buildings a lot. Concussion city. In reflection I already had these problems before I ever entered the military. In my 30s I began having more serious brain problems which led me through a number of different systems trying to fix myself. This was compounded by the fact that once Pandemic kicked off I was back behind the gun again doing a lot of the things I did in my 20s/30s.
I had successfully used different breathing techniques and some nutrition stuff to pull myself out of the dark and at least maintain some stability but I never really felt “fixed”.

I started using DeFibron and now I feel fixed. Short story is I feel completely normal for probably the first time in my life. If this supplement is having the anti-fibrotic effect we think it is, this would make sense. Cerebral blood flow has probably improved as well as a number of other things. Worth noting I was also born premature and put in an incubator and had a bunch of other weird stuff happen to me.

Below are the positive impacts I am seeing from DeFibron

1. Improved mobility. There does seem to be an effect from applying it directly to areas that have always been a problem for me. Specifically ankles, adductors and chest.
2. Breathing is way better. I have had significant breathing problems since I was a kid.
3. Improved vision.
4. Better strength and endurance.
5. Alcohol seems to have almost no lasting effect on me. I can drink a shocking amount of tequila and get up the next morning and work out. I’m not planning on making a habit out of this, it was more of a test based on something @haidut said. Makes sense if liver function is improving. I think he said that.
6. No more negative internal monologue.
7. Shooting doesn’t seem to bother me anymore. I normally use a heart rate monitor and when it pegs at 100 bpm and won’t come down I know it’s time to pack it in. That seems to have stopped happening. I can hammer rounds down range as much as I like and I feel perfectly fine. I’m not going to go start hanging out in the shoot house eating breaching charges or anything, but I now feel like range work isn’t going to push me backwards.
8. Screens don’t hurt my eyes like they used to.
9. I’ve been working on Ray’s material for nearly ten years now with limited success. I think part of the reason for this was all of my other issues which made it hard to manage glucose on a number of levels. After starting with DeFibron things seem to work much better now.

There's more but that's the gist of it.

It’s worth noting that I started off only doing topical. 2x20 drops per day. This past week I added in 5 drops oral. So at least for me it doesn’t seem that oral is necessary to get an effect. I’m curious from those with more experience if it’s fine to increase the topical amount as @haidut had said it was around 30% as effective administered topically.

I feel like this stuff could be a big deal for people with long-term concussion syndromes/ PTSD. Like “it stops you from putting a gun in your mouth sitting in your truck in a 7-11 parking lot” big deal.

So… thumbs up.
 

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What is a TBI?

I'm glad it worked on so many areas for you. Seemed like it flipped a switch to have so many downstream effects.
 

Mac Rilla

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@yerrag A TBI is a traumatic brain injury, which kind of sounds worse than it is. They can be significant like cerebrospinal fluid leaking out of your ears etc. or can develop over time from unresolved concussions. My estimate on those two TBI's is only a guess as we weren't doing brain scans back then, but it's probably a pretty good one.
 

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