Peat Eating As Macrobiotic-ish, Rice-centered Diet?

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    After all, we have statements like the following.
    This one from Danny Roddy over on his excellent site:

    Jul 31, 2012 | Registered Commenter Danny Roddy
    http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2012...-the-metabolic-rate-with-the-vi.html#comments

    And then a couple of comments from Cliff McCrary here on this site:

    http://raypeatforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=168


    http://raypeatforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=168&start=30

    So, what's keeping us from conceiving of a "Peatish Way of Eating" as very similar to an old-school, macrobiotic, Rice Centered Diet?

    Breakfast: eggs, large bowl of rice with 1/4 stick of pastured butter, OJ, milk, coffee with cream
    Lunch: lambchops, large bowl of rice with 1/4 stick pastured butter, coke, strawberries with cream, OJ, milk
    Dinner: lobster, large bowl of rice with 1/4 stick pastured butter, OJ, coffee with cream, milk
     
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    When I eat rice, I feel I can taste its lack of nutrients. I don't like it.
     
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    I think the problem from starches is the intense injection of glucose to the system, maybe akin to a nitrous oxide injection into a race car. Eventually somethings going to break because of high stress. Maybe that wasn't the best analogy but it will do.

    And I guess the starches could feed the bad bugs in the stomach.
     
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    One possible problem:
    Peat has said that starches are associated with obesity.
    Did he say they cause obesity?
    I will try to track that down.
    Seems like he said that eating starches makes one want to eat more--
    beyond what one should
    (if weight is a concern, and I would think it should be at some point).

    I don't know if Peat has said why they cause obesity--the mechanism.
    I'll look into that also.
    The scenario Charlie described above...that sounds a little familiar.
    Maybe Peat has laid out something like that.

    Another angle:
    Peat has said if one does eat rice,
    one should eat it with butter.
    Indeed, how many people eat rice plain?
    Now, if one eats a lot of rice,
    and then one also at the same time eats a lot of butter...
    Peat has said even good saturated fats can be a weight concern.

    Peat says that if you eat rice,
    it should be white,
    and you should boil it for like 40 minutes
    to reduce the starch content.
    And ideally, he says, you should boil it in lye.
    Yikes.
    I wonder how many Peatatarians boil their rice in lye for 40 minutes...?
     
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    Rice doesn't have a lot of nutrients and if it is your bulk carb source your diet will be lacking. If you tolerate it you would probably be fine eating it with each meal but I would focus on getting most of your carbs from fruit for the fructose.
     
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    This too is really interesting information!
    Cliff, do you have a view on the last of the Peat Big Starch Three,
    Masa Harina?

    Doesn't Peat rate it above white rice?
     
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    Yea you probably wanna get organic though because most corn is gmo. Corn is pretty low in nutrients too though.
     
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    I love rice.
    With lots of butter!
    And salt!!
    If I had to choose between
    white rice and potatoes
    as a starch I could eat...
    tough call,
    but I think I would go with rice.

    Alas...I don't think Peat really would recommend either
    as anything like a staple or backbone of a healthy diet.
    I could be wrong.
    Truly a cloudy area in the Land 'O Peat.
     
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    "Well cooked potatoes, with butter or cream,are a very good way to get carbohydrate, if you aren't allergic to them, because they contain a good balance of amino acids, too, as well as minerals and B vitamins." RP
     
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    Wow. :shock:
     
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    Okay, Cliff.
    Where are we with Peat on Rice?

    If rice were boiled in lye for 40 minutes..?
    Add butter and salt.
    Good carb source
    if in context of an otherwise nutrient-laden diet?

    Ever heard/read Peat make some kind of guiding statement like that about rice?

    ...
     
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    Rice & Lye

    Are you sure is "lye" (corrosive), and not "pickling or hydrated lime" (calcium hydroxide)?

    Lime is used in the nixtamalization of "field corn" (not sweet corn or popcorn).

    Quicklime is calcium oxide.
     
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    Re: Rice & Lye

    I wondered the same thing, pete.
    But unless the citation in inaccurate,
    it was "lye."

    I will have to look for it--the quote from Peat, I mean.
    And it was sort of a lonely one.
    I don't think I've seen that reference, that quote,
    in more than just one place, so...
    ...your suspicion is warranted.
     
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    I think a call via the Peat phone is needed here.
     
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    Ha. :lol:
    NWO2012!!!!
     
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    Re: Rice & Lye

    I did see this on the web:


    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110119095705AAY3T15

    I bolded some stuff I found interesting--the part about not cooking with it, but soaking in it.
    And what could be more enticing
    than rice soaked in lye?!
    Yummmmmm.... :roll:
     
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    Trying, but sometimes its switched off on the weekends. :(
     
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