Magnesium of kale? Yes or not?

[gilson d dantas]

Correct me if I'm wrong: there is very little magnesium in raw kale leaves; therefore, in the boiled kale water there will also be little magnesium [perhaps something around 16 mg per 100 g of leaves]; in addition, we will have phytates and oxalates and the problem of bioavailability.
If so, kale would not be a good daily source of mg for a person with hypothyroidism.
The best source to me seems to be Magnoil [idealabs], I think. But what other source could we have, in the absence of Magnoil? Maybe magnesium glycinate?

 

[Gânico]

Ordinary peaty foods usually provides enough magnesium and salt helps retain it. The best magnesium sources are water from boiled greens and coffee, i think the latter would be the best because it's overall pro-thyroid effect, unlike the greens. A cup of strong coffee has about 40 mg according to Ray. If u really want to supplement it, glycinate.

 

[jameske]

Correct me if I'm wrong: there is very little magnesium in raw kale leaves; therefore, in the boiled kale water there will also be little magnesium [perhaps something around 16 mg per 100 g of leaves]; in addition, we will have phytates and oxalates and the problem of bioavailability.
If so, kale would not be a good daily source of mg for a person with hypothyroidism.
The best source to me seems to be Magnoil [idealabs], I think. But what other source could we have, in the absence of Magnoil? Maybe magnesium glycinate?

Make magnesium water.

 

[-Luke-]

There is a Slovenian mineral water called Donat. It has 1000mg of magnesium per liter, if I recall correctly. But I have no idea whether they export it and you can buy it in other countries.

 

[Rafael Henrique]

Yerba Mate has a lot of magnesium.

 

[gilson d dantas]

Yerba Mate has a lot of magnesium.

yerba mate? good. I use it daily.

 

[gilson d dantas]

Make magnesium water.

I don´t know magnesium water. Never heard about it.

 

[gilson d dantas]

Ordinary peaty foods usually provides enough magnesium and salt helps retain it. The best magnesium sources are water from boiled greens and coffee, i think the latter would be the best because it's overall pro-thyroid effect, unlike the greens. A cup of strong coffee has about 40 mg according to Ray. If u really want to supplement it, glycinate.

Ordinary foods provides enough magnesiun IF you are not a hypothiroid person.
Cofffe has magnesium or niacinamide 40mg? And the water of boiled greens, kale for instance, what is the amount of magnesium? what is its biodisponibility? and the risks [oxalates]?

 

[Rafael Henrique]

yerba mate? good. I use it daily.

Citação de um estudo em 10 minutos de infusão: Os maiores teores de cálcio e magnésio em infusão ocorreram a 70 °C e variaram entre 251 a 83 mg L -1 para Ca e 767 a 317 mg L -1 para Mg.

Good yerba mate has 767mg/L.

 

[Gânico]

Cofffe has magnesium or niacinamide 40mg?

Yeah, that's it, Ray talked about one cup of strong coffee having 40 mg of magnesium in an email exchange: "Dry instant coffee is close to 0.5% magnesium, so a cup of strong coffee has about 40 mg. I make strong drip coffee."


He didn't specified the quantity/biodisponibility of greens, he just said boiled greens/leaves water makes a very good magnesium supplement, i dont believe oxalates and other harmful compounds might pose a problem since you are drinking just the boiled water, although i think coffee might be a better choice overall.

 

[gilson d dantas]

Yeah, that's it, Ray talked about one cup of strong coffee having 40 mg of magnesium in an email exchange: "Dry instant coffee is close to 0.5% magnesium, so a cup of strong coffee has about 40 mg. I make strong drip coffee."


He didn't specified the quantity/biodisponibility of greens, he just said boiled greens/leaves water makes a very good magnesium supplement, i dont believe oxalates and other harmful compounds might pose a problem since you are drinking just the boiled water, although i think coffee might be a better choice overall.

Yes, indeed. but we need to know if water of boiled kale leaves brings the magnesium we need daily.
Besides, I think that the oxalates are in the boiled water.

 

[RealNeat]

The darker green the vegetables are the more Mg they have. Kale has very low oxalic acid and you can put a pinch of baking soda in there to neutralize any. Combining cooked greens with sautéed onion, garlic yoghurt with a salted butter tomato sauce is my way of handling oxalates and the taste is delicious. I’m very sensitive to oxalates but I can eat well cooked spinach with the water no problem (with yoghurt). Utilize cooking and calcium and you shouldn’t have oxalates issues.

 

[youngsinatra]

There is a Slovenian mineral water called Donat. It has 1000mg of magnesium per liter, if I recall correctly. But I have no idea whether they export it and you can buy it in other countries.

Wow, that‘s crazy. It’s indeed 1000mg/L. Could find it on Amazon in Germany.

 

[jameske]

I don´t know magnesium water. Never heard about

Magnesium Hydroxide shaken in soda water. If you are serious about it, buy a soda stream and a couple of glass bottles for it and some magnesium hydroxide, or if less so try it by buying a large bottle of fizzy spring water, pour out some of it and add magnesium hydroxide to it at the amount you want and shake. I use a small enough amount so almost all of it reacts and goes into solution. Tastes fine, and I usually have with ginger cordial.

 

[gilson d dantas]

Magnesium Hydroxide shaken in soda water. If you are serious about it, buy a soda stream and a couple of glass bottles for it and some magnesium hydroxide, or if less so try it by buying a large bottle of fizzy spring water, pour out some of it and add magnesium hydroxide to it at the amount you want and shake. I use a small enough amount so almost all of it reacts and goes into solution. Tastes fine, and I usually have with ginger cordial.

OK. No toxic issues with magnesium hydroxide?

 

[jameske]

OK. No toxic issues with magnesium hydroxide?

Like what?

 

[gilson d dantas]

Like what?

I dont know. I am asking. Hydroxide it is not a usual form of magnesium.

 

[Rafael Henrique]

I dont know. I am asking. Hydroxide it is not a usual form of magnesium.

It's milk of magnesia.

 

[76er]

The liquid multi-mineral molasses is a great source of mag.

 

[gilson d dantas]

It's milk of magnesia.

Yes, but what about the excipients of milk of magnesia? The additives?