@nwo2012 any updates on how it's been doing for you?
So far I can see minor strength increases. Less dry skin on heel too.
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@nwo2012 any updates on how it's been doing for you?
So this is by far my favourite IdeaLabs product. If I could only take one supplement, this would be it. Thank you @haidut.
What I have noticed:
Better blood sugar control during the day. Where I before had to snack constantly to avoid a stress response, I can now go extremely long periods without eating and feel completely fine.
Less body fat and water retention. Especially in the abdomen. I apply 10 drops at night and now after using it for 2ish weeks, my abs are very prominent and visible throughout the entire day. I am an athletic female, but have never had definition like this even with strict diet etc, — I always had a feeling that the issue was related to high cortisol and stress.
Better sleep, better mood, way better skin and I look much younger.
I tried using it throughout the day but application early on makes me tired and lowers cortisol too much and I can’t get anything done.
Nice feedback, glad its working out well for you. Where to you apply it? Do you apply it before bed?
The blood sugar regulation alone makes me think I need to try this. I'm curious--have you used regular progesterone in the past? If so, was your response similar to this? I ask because I've not experienced much with regular progesterone, so if they feel the same to you, this variation may not do much for me, either.Better blood sugar control during the day. Where I before had to snack constantly to avoid a stress response, I can now go extremely long periods without eating and feel completely fine.
The blood sugar regulation alone makes me think I need to try this. I'm curious--have you used regular progesterone in the past? If so, was your response similar to this? I ask because I've not experienced much with regular progesterone, so if they feel the same to you, this variation may not do much for me, either.
Progesterone alters biliary flow dynamics.I have low bile production and poor gallbladder motility. Taking progesterone sometimes results in morning sickness for me.
Have to be careful with progesterone studies as a lot of them use synthetic.Progesterone alters biliary flow dynamics.
Progest E ruined my gallbladder. I ve always had a perfect bile flow and now after 6 months supplement with progesterone I have a bunch of problem with yeast infection and guess what bile doesn't work.
I hope this new compound doesn't do that but just with time and reports we'll find out.
I tried using it throughout the day but application early on makes me tired and lowers cortisol too much and I can’t get anything done.
I noticed the same thing, a tired, groggy feeling. I am currently using a very low dose at night only, to see if my tolerance increases.
So this is by far my favourite IdeaLabs product. If I could only take one supplement, this would be it. Thank you @haidut.
What I have noticed:
Better blood sugar control during the day. Where I before had to snack constantly to avoid a stress response, I can now go extremely long periods without eating and feel completely fine.
Less body fat and water retention. Especially in the abdomen. I apply 10 drops at night and now after using it for 2ish weeks, my abs are very prominent and visible throughout the entire day. I am an athletic female, but have never had definition like this even with strict diet etc, — I always had a feeling that the issue was related to high cortisol and stress.
Better sleep, better mood, way better skin and I look much younger.
I tried using it throughout the day but application early on makes me tired and lowers cortisol too much and I can’t get anything done.
@haidut I might have cushing syndrome because Pansterone help just a little probably because the benefits of DHEA are negated by the conversion of cortisol from the pregnenolone.
the only thing that help shut down the cortisol is sky high dosages of progesterone but became impossible live with a numb penis for so long and some still convert to cortisol so night insomnia is crazy of progesterone.
I'm looking for a solution specific for people like me with high cortisol level and issue in the conversion pathway.
This new compound sound interesting because cannot convert to cortisol and still provide the anticatabolic benefits but can you make an option with added DHEA. It would be amazing to have that instead of pansterone or cortinon.
Regards
Sounds great. One concern. There are cortisol drops and there are cortisol drops.Based on the feedback I have been getting so far, it seems like it may do just that - i.e. oppose cortisol without the anti-libido or anti-gonadotropic effects of high dose progesterone.
Sounds great. One concern. There are cortisol drops and there are cortisol drops.
From progesterone I think I sense cortisol going down from the lethargy but I don't sense a sugar drop that goes along with the cortisol drop.
I remember Metergoline, though, where cortisol went down but there was a very noticeable sugar drop too that was hard to handle.
What kind of cortisol drop do you think this gives?
Update:
My subject has been taking 6-keto P for two weeks now. A dose of 10 drops + 4 drops Pansterone per day.
Noticed today that the subject lost 5 pounds went from 170 lbs to 165lbs.
A bit of a background male subject had an extreme stress response for 2 years when the stress response finally ended 25lbs of noticeable fat accumulation had been stored on the subject.
I assume the hypertrophic properties of 6-ketoprogesterone is stimulating fat metabolism. Really happy with this compound.
Wow, amazing!
I think the hypertrophic effects are mostly from cortisol antagonism, but I would not exclude metabolism boosting as well. When cortisol is blocked, it allows the pregnenolone/DHEA from Pansterone to work much better and add their own muscle-building effects as well.
So this is by far my favourite IdeaLabs product. If I could only take one supplement, this would be it. Thank you @haidut.
What I have noticed:
Better blood sugar control during the day. Where I before had to snack constantly to avoid a stress response, I can now go extremely long periods without eating and feel completely fine.
Less body fat and water retention. Especially in the abdomen. I apply 10 drops at night and now after using it for 2ish weeks, my abs are very prominent and visible throughout the entire day. I am an athletic female, but have never had definition like this even with strict diet etc, — I always had a feeling that the issue was related to high cortisol and stress.
Better sleep, better mood, way better skin and I look much younger.
I tried using it throughout the day but application early on makes me tired and lowers cortisol too much and I can’t get anything done.
May I ask you to take a look at muscle mass?It feels as if cortisol antagonism is a way better route to allow the rest of the organism to use its metabolic functions optimally. Hopefully, in the next two weeks, another 5 lbs are lost! Will keep you posted