Why does pregnenolone cause hair loss? Will allopregnanolone do the same?

[dervmai]

I wanted to supplement preg but a lot of people on the forum have negative side effects from it, with hair loss being a common one. Why is the mechanism that causes preg to cause hair loss?? Would Allopreg do the same? I can't find testimonies on here on allopreg causing hair loss, either because not enough people are supplementing it..... Not sure.... Does anyone know???

 

[golder]

Is there a chance that someone is experiencing hair loss and also taking pregnenolone?

 

[xeliex]

With pregnenolone, it seems the the source matters a lot. Ray and Georgi have discussed that. Contaminants, solvents, or estrogenic compounds can be present in most pregnenolone on the market. Gerogi discusses how to purify it on some podcasts. I personally take Pure Encapsulations pregnenolone sometimes without any issues.

 

[dervmai]

With pregnenolone, it seems the the source matters a lot. Ray and Georgi have discussed that. Contaminants, solvents, or estrogenic compounds can be present in most pregnenolone on the market. Gerogi discusses how to purify it on some podcasts. I personally take Pure Encapsulations pregnenolone sometimes without any issues.

can I not just take allopreg alone instead? I take dut and it lowers my allopreg levels completely basically. I want to supplement allopreg but I'm not sure how the other hormones play a role in all this.

 

[Highserotonin90]

@dervmai It's always different every time I take low dose oral pregnenolone in the 3 to 6 mg range. According to Georgi I should be in the range to obtain greater conversion towards DHEA so I could create both estrogen (here it is essential to have well-functioning hepatic COMT or you will tend to neuropsychiatric symptoms with accumulation of estrogen and difficult degradation) and testosterone/DHT. It is very difficult for me to recognize the acute symptoms... but I would like to say that there is a conversation towards Allo... it is also difficult to say why it causes thinning of the hair... perhaps the excess of NMDA is not positive for effects on Valley ? maybe.

 

[dervmai]

@dervmai It's always different every time I take low dose oral pregnenolone in the 3 to 6 mg range. According to Georgi I should be in the range to obtain greater conversion towards DHEA so I could create both estrogen (here it is essential to have well-functioning hepatic COMT or you will tend to neuropsychiatric symptoms with accumulation of estrogen and difficult degradation) and testosterone/DHT. It is very difficult for me to recognize the acute symptoms... but I would like to say that there is a conversation towards Allo... it is also difficult to say why it causes thinning of the hair... perhaps the excess of NMDA is not positive for effects on Valley ? maybe.

Couldn't I just avoid all the headache by taking allopreg only? I have high T, and maybe high tissue estrogen+ high DHEA-S, don't know if this makes a difference.

 

[Highserotonin90]

@dervmai I'm inclined to tell you that migraines can be due to NMDA hyper activation in areas where you wouldn't want it activated, probably a selective antagonist like zinc or magnesium could modulate this response? I don't know, I can't think of anything else considering the countless interactions and feedback mechanisms, sorry.

 

[dervmai]

@dervmai I'm inclined to tell you that migraines can be due to NMDA hyper activation in areas where you wouldn't want it activated, probably a selective antagonist like zinc or magnesium could modulate this response? I don't know, I can't think of anything else considering the countless interactions and feedback mechanisms, sorry.

haha sorry I meant headaches figuratively. I don't really experience headaches.

 

[tallglass13]

can I not just take allopreg alone instead? I take dut and it lowers my allopreg levels completely basically. I want to supplement allopreg but I'm not sure how the other hormones play a role in all this.

Hi,
So you are on Dutasteride and still losing hair? This is why in my view, Fin/Dut are totally not worth it, because people still shed and lose ground despite being on some harsh brain altering chemicals.

 

[dervmai]

Hi,
So you are on Dutasteride and still losing hair? This is why in my view, Fin/Dut are totally not worth it, because people still shed and lose ground despite being on some harsh brain altering chemicals.

No I don't think I am really loosing hair as in miniaturization. I have gotten regrowth along my hairline. I just have scalp inflammation and other issues like liver, gut, histamine, vitamin deficiencies, hypothyroidism, high adrenals, high stress and anxiety that are causing shedding, the shedding that grows back.

 

[Den Sha Otoko]

Hi Dervmai

I was in your position a few years ago, except I never used Fin/Dut. Anyways, I have tried Ray & Haidut's progesterone and they won't cause hair loss. Actually I got some regrowth and over all thicker hair as a result.

But you got to address your hypothyroidism, stress and gut issue as well, then the scalp inflammation should resolve itself.