Would butea boost dht as much as proviron

[Ideal man]

Share your thoughts/experiences

 

[AndrogenicJB]

Share your thoughts/experiences

Trying out Barlowe's next week

 

[Ideal man]

Trying out Barlowe's next week

That's the one im thinking about getting the 30:1 should have way more effect than the regular swanson ones i tried before

 

[AndrogenicJB]

That's the one im thinking about getting the 30:1 should have way more effect than the regular swanson ones i tried before

How was the swanson's

 

[Ideal man]

How was the swanson's

It was so so took awhile for it to start working i noticed i was more easy angered while on it

 

[MyUsernameHere]

Butea felt more like anti-estrogen to me, not so much DHT increase.

Proviron I can't say I felt much from. No libido increase, nothing, at 200 mg I just had headaches and emotional numbness.

Cistanche is decent, sorghum and creatine too.

 

[Ideal man]

Butea felt more like anti-estrogen to me, not so much DHT increase.

Proviron I can't say I felt much from. No libido increase, nothing, at 200 mg I just had headaches and emotional numbness.

Cistanche is decent, sorghum and creatine

Butea felt more like anti-estrogen to me, not so much DHT increase.

Proviron I can't say I felt much from. No libido increase, nothing, at 200 mg I just had headaches and emotional numbness.

Cistanche is decent, sorghum and creatine too.

I'll look into those also

 

[Razvan]

Butea felt more like anti-estrogen to me, not so much DHT increase.

Proviron I can't say I felt much from. No libido increase, nothing, at 200 mg I just had headaches and emotional numbness.

Cistanche is decent, sorghum and creatine too.

What benefits from creatine?

 

[Charger]

Bulbine Natalensis feels more like Proviron to me.

 

[AndrogenicJB]

Anyone tried gonadin and or kuinone which is better? What did you notice regarding t/dht/etc

 

[Homo Consumericus]

What benefits from creatine?

Supplementing creatine increases phosphocreatine which donates phosphate to recyle ADP into ATP which is needed for explosive energy production.

Creatine supplementing may increase DHT (possibly only when paired with exercise).

Creatine supplementing may reduce plasma-free tryptophan and therefore serotonin.

Creatine supplementing may have an antidepressant effect by agonising D1 and D2 receptors.

Creatine supplementing should reduce the body's need for glycine and methyl groups since they are used for endogenous creatine production.

I hold on to much more glycogen (making my abs somewhat disappear, but I don't care) when supplementing creatine and this increases my strength significantly (after 3-4 weeks of 5 grams per day, my ~3RM barbell overhead press became an ~8RM, although I recognise that other factors may have been at play).

I also find it awakens my mind so much that I cannot take it close to bed time if I want to sleep. Even though there are cognitive benefits, you may experience a bit of brain fog immediately after consuming.

A smaller percentage of the population are creatine non-responders.

 

[Ideal man]

Supplementing creatine increases phosphocreatine which donates phosphate to recyle ADP into ATP which is needed for explosive energy production.

Creatine supplementing may increase DHT (possibly only when paired with exercise).

Creatine supplementing may reduce plasma-free tryptophan and therefore serotonin.

Creatine supplementing may have an antidepressant effect by agonising D1 and D2 receptors.

Creatine supplementing should reduce the body's need for glycine and methyl groups since they are used for endogenous creatine production.

I hold on to much more glycogen (making my abs somewhat disappear, but I don't care) when supplementing creatine and this increases my strength significantly (after 3-4 weeks of 5 grams per day, my ~3RM barbell overhead press became an ~8RM, although I recognise that other factors may have been at play).

I also find it awakens my mind so much that I cannot take it close to bed time if I want to sleep. Even though there are cognitive benefits, you may experience a bit of brain fog immediately after consuming.

A smaller percentage of the population are creatine non-responders.

Does dht itself have any effect on the dopamine receptors?

 

[Razvan]

Does dht itself have any effect on the dopamine receptors?

Yes DHT is so important when it comes about dopamine.

 

[Razvan]

Supplementing creatine increases phosphocreatine which donates phosphate to recyle ADP into ATP which is needed for explosive energy production.

Creatine supplementing may increase DHT (possibly only when paired with exercise).

Creatine supplementing may reduce plasma-free tryptophan and therefore serotonin.

Creatine supplementing may have an antidepressant effect by agonising D1 and D2 receptors.

Creatine supplementing should reduce the body's need for glycine and methyl groups since they are used for endogenous creatine production.

I hold on to much more glycogen (making my abs somewhat disappear, but I don't care) when supplementing creatine and this increases my strength significantly (after 3-4 weeks of 5 grams per day, my ~3RM barbell overhead press became an ~8RM, although I recognise that other factors may have been at play).

I also find it awakens my mind so much that I cannot take it close to bed time if I want to sleep. Even though there are cognitive benefits, you may experience a bit of brain fog immediately after consuming.

A smaller percentage of the population are creatine non-responders.

Bro, i know all you said about creatine,i was only just asking how it feels for him creatine, because I'm experimenting it for some of my clients but some of them do better without.
My summary is that there are a lot of better substances similar in the effects.

 

[AndrogenicJB]

Bro, i know all you said about creatine,i was only just asking how it feels for him creatine, because I'm experimenting it for some of my clients but some of them do better without.
My summary is that there are a lot of better substances similar in the effects.

Have you tried gonadin from idealabs

 

[Razvan]

Have you tried gonadin from idealabs

Yes,but kuinone is better. Or oxidal is very good but you can get away with cheaper methylene blue.Today i started an high dosage methylene blue experiment. It's wonderfull stuff. It's one of the things that Peat promotes that i think can be stacked forever together with T3. All the other stuff are just experiments and things that are used only for a limited time.

 

[AndrogenicJB]

Yes,but kuinone is better. Or oxidal is very good but you can get away with cheaper methylene blue.Today i started an high dosage methylene blue experiment. It's wonderfull stuff. It's one of the things that Peat promotes that i think can be stacked forever together with T3. All the other stuff are just experiments and things that are used only for a limited time

I will try and find methylene blue from a pharmacy. Was Gonadin better than the cholesterol powder or not?

 

[Razvan]

De

I will try and find methylene blue from a pharmacy. Was Gonadin better than the cholesterol powder or not?

Definitely not, cholesterol powder felt pretty similar to pregnenolone.

 

[AndrogenicJB]

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Definitely not, cholesterol powder felt pretty similar to pregnenolone.

In terms of how androgenic it was o n a scale of 1-10 how was it with 10 being very good, I'm thinking of either getting kuinone + gonaidn or kuinone+ cholesterol powder

 

[Razvan]

It was prett

In terms of how androgenic it was o n a scale of 1-10 how was it with 10 being very good, I'm thinking of either getting kuinone + gonaidn or kuinone+ cholesterol powder

It was pretty androgenic,but not in an extreme way as with DHEA, it makes you more resistent to stress and very social and energetic exactly as pregnenolone does. I definitely would recommend kuinone+D3 and cholesterol maybe some extra DHEA but you said you don't want it.
From 1-10 maybe 7-8, good.