12% DHT Gel

[dq139]

hey guys!

So I finally got the 12% dht gel in the mail. I want to start up a cycle of it and share my experiences with you guys.

Before I start taking it I would like some one who has experience with dht steroids to give me a few pointers on how to cycle it and use it so that I don't experience any htpa shutdown after I stop using it and no unwanted side effects like hair loss or prostate issues.

I'm Taking Russian star peptides 12% dht gel and the directions are to the genitals twice per day (1ml) you can do this for a year they say. I definitely wont be applying it for more than 2 months at a time. theres 120mgs of dht per 1ml I found out. I will be using half of that to start out with, so 0.5ml is 60mgs. I will be using...

my plan was to use .5ml (60mgs DHT) once per day 6 days per week 1 day off for 2 months then take 1 month off.

I'm not using anyother type of steroid to keep my Testosterone from going down as the dht raises in my body (except for taking Vitamin E & Zinc). So I would like a few pointers on how I can keep my natural test levels at a healthy level and how I can keep my estrogen down and hormones balanced Post cycle when I'm not taking the dht.

this is my first time taking steroids so I'm being very cautious as to not hurt myself.

thanks for the help/advice Its greatly appreciated :)

 

[schultz]

I think I calculated 1 drop to be around 2.5mg to 3mg of DHT (assuming it actually has DHT in it)

I have personally had more success with Pansterone + Androsterone (this is not a plug for Idealabs, just an observation) I am terrible at make personal observations though. However, I did have a bit of puffy nipple on and off and the androsterone killed that completely. I will maybe give the Titan another shot down the road.

A friend of mine is paranoid that the Titan either has IGF-1 in it or something that promotes IGF-1 (I thought raspberry ketones). It would make sense since its a penis enlargement product and IGF-1 has been shown to be helpful in this area to some degree. In any event I wouldnt put it on your chest area.

As far as dosing, I think staying under 15mg would help prevent shutdown. 70mg will shut you down completely is my guess based off a study I read.

 

[dq139]

I think I calculated 1 drop to be around 2.5mg to 3mg of DHT (assuming it actually has DHT in it)

I have personally had more success with Pansterone + Androsterone (this is not a plug for Idealabs, just an observation) I am terrible at make personal observations though. However, I did have a bit of puffy nipple on and off and the androsterone killed that completely. I will maybe give the Titan another shot down the road.

A friend of mine is paranoid that the Titan either has IGF-1 in it or something that promotes IGF-1 (I thought raspberry ketones). It would make sense since its a penis enlargement product and IGF-1 has been shown to be helpful in this area to some degree. In any event I wouldnt put it on your chest area.

As far as dosing, I think staying under 15mg would help prevent shutdown. 70mg will shut you down completely is my guess based off a study I read.

I think I calculated 1 drop to be around 2.5mg to 3mg of DHT (assuming it actually has DHT in it)

I have personally had more success with Pansterone + Androsterone (this is not a plug for Idealabs, just an observation) I am terrible at make personal observations though. However, I did have a bit of puffy nipple on and off and the androsterone killed that completely. I will maybe give the Titan another shot down the road.

A friend of mine is paranoid that the Titan either has IGF-1 in it or something that promotes IGF-1 (I thought raspberry ketones). It would make sense since its a penis enlargement product and IGF-1 has been shown to be helpful in this area to some degree. In any event I wouldnt put it on your chest area.

As far as dosing, I think staying under 15mg would help prevent shutdown. 70mg will shut you down completely is my guess based off a study I read.

So 4 drops per day u think is safe?

I need to figure out how to dose this stuff before I start using it.

 

[schultz]

So 4 drops per day u think is safe?

I need to figure out how to dose this stuff before I start using it.

I think 4 drops is safe. I dont think more is unsafe but it may lower testosterone. It will also lower estrogen as well.

You should really figure out how many drops the dropper contains and figure out how many mg's per drop based on the total amount in the bottle. I remember thinking it was a 600 drop bottle. I can check for you as I still have the bottle at home.

Its irritating they dont list the dose per drop. I asked them and they didnt respond...

 

[dq139]

I think 4 drops is safe. I dont think more is unsafe but it may lower testosterone. It will also lower estrogen as well.

You should really figure out how many drops the dropper contains and figure out how many mg's per drop based on the total amount in the bottle. I remember thinking it was a 600 drop bottle. I can check for you as I still have the bottle at home.

Its irritating they dont list the dose per drop. I asked them and they didnt respond...

There is nothing to indicate the dose on the bottle..its just a plain plastic bottle with clear liquid dht...

Btw how do u think I should cycle it?

 

[moriwatzi]

I remember thinking it was a 600 drop bottle. I can check for you as I still have the bottle at home.

the newest batch in 20ml bottle has around 740 to 750 drops. Should be 1.500 mg DHT in total.

Suppression studies are discussed here DHT Has Little Impact On LH Secretion

 

[moriwatzi]

There is nothing to indicate the dose on the bottle..its just a plain plastic bottle with clear liquid dht..

Is it completely clear when you hold it against the light? Mine has residue. Even after warming the bottle content has tiny flakes.

 

[dq139]

Is it completely clear when you hold it against the light? Mine has residue. Even after warming the bottle content has tiny flakes.

I see the flakes that u are talking about..not much though

So your saying that 1 drop equals 1.5mgs of dht?

 

[Pointless]

I'm using 2 drops twice a week. Yes, it makes things bigger, especially if youre doing manual exercises a few times a week (nothing crazy is really necessary). I'm also feeling more comfortable with getting what I want, leaner physique, and increased muscular endurance. It seems to make libido more focused, like a drive to get a woman instead of a drive to ejaculate. Lost interest in porn and don't feel rushed during sexual encounters.

Also never got any of this with 11-keto

 

[dq139]

I'm using 2 drops twice a week. Yes, it makes things bigger, especially if youre doing manual exercises a few times a week (nothing crazy is really necessary). I'm also feeling more comfortable with getting what I want, leaner physique, and increased muscular endurance. It seems to make libido more focused, like a drive to get a woman instead of a drive to ejaculate. Lost interest in porn and don't feel rushed during sexual encounters.

Also never got any of this with 11-keto

Your only using it twice per day 2 days per week?...are u planning on cycling it? Any bad side effects also?

 

[Pointless]

Your only using it twice per day 2 days per week?...are u planning on cycling it? Any bad side effects also?

2 drops 2x/wk. I have better results taking hormones infrequently. First dose is great and then downhill. I've had some loss in arousal upon waking and erection strength. I am seeing how things go for another week before deciding what to do about that. I may cycle it, may reduce dose,may take it for a while and just stop altogether. May try more preg (I take 100 mg orally with the Titan DHT).

These side effects are less than any other hormone product except pure preg orally (which makes my voice crack and very well may be causing these negative side effects as well).

 

[moriwatzi]

So your saying that 1 drop equals 1.5mgs of dht?

rather 2.0 mg

 

[schultz]

the newest batch in 20ml bottle has around 740 to 750 drops. Should be 1.500 mg DHT in total.

Suppression studies are discussed here DHT Has Little Impact On LH Secretion

Oh okay, that's good to know. Is it that tall skinny bottle?

 

[dq139]

Update: So I took 1 drop of the 12% dht liquid 8 hours ago for the 1st time and this is how I feel:
Weird.

about 15 mins after applying I got a nervous jittery cortisol response like I had too much caffeine. balls shrunk up. body felt tight and hard. my brain felt hazy and fuzzy...then I went to the gym and didn't feel that strong. just my muscles felt harder/tighter..at this point 8 hours later I don't feel horny, my balls feel pretty normal now, but I still feel kinda jittery.. but more calm and less bewildered than before.

Is this normal for taking steroids for the 1st time?...is there a stimulant in this DHT gel? it sure wasn't in the product description...Idk if Raspberry ketones cause a caffeine/cortisol type response tho. I know they put that in there.

 

[dq139]

Just would like to know how long I can use 4 or 5 mgs of dht before I should take a break from it so I don't get hormonal shut down?

 

[schultz]

Idk if Raspberry ketones cause a caffeine/cortisol type response tho. I know they put that in there.

Are there actually raspberry ketones in it? I had made a guess that it does but I never confirmed it.

It contains "Patent pending DERMA assimilation complex.", whatever that is...

 

[dq139]

Are there actually raspberry ketones in it? I had made a guess that it does but I never confirmed it.

It contains "Patent pending DERMA assimilation complex.", whatever that is...

Oh ok I thought so..well after the 1st few hours I felt good with decent libido boost. So it doesnt pose that much of a problem im thinking.

 

[schultz]

Oh ok I thought so..well after the 1st few hours I felt good with decent libido boost. So it doesnt pose that much of a problem im thinking.

Oh that's good. It was just a theory that it contained IGF-1 or something that raises IGF-1. I just thought if there was a chance it did, then you wouldn't want to put it on your chest in an attempt to reduce gyno or something as the IGF-1 might encourage breast tissue growth.

Keep us updated on your progress with this supplement.

 

[dq139]

Oh that's good. It was just a theory that it contained IGF-1 or something that raises IGF-1. I just thought if there was a chance it did, then you wouldn't want to put it on your chest in an attempt to reduce gyno or something as the IGF-1 might encourage breast tissue growth.

Keep us updated on your progress with this supplement.

I will and thanks for the info & help btw

also do you know by any chance how I should cycle 4 to 5 mgs of DHT so that I don't get suppressed estrogen & bad hormonal shut down?.. I need my strength so I can work obviously lol

 

[chispas]

I'm using 2 drops twice a week. Yes, it makes things bigger, especially if youre doing manual exercises a few times a week (nothing crazy is really necessary). I'm also feeling more comfortable with getting what I want, leaner physique, and increased muscular endurance. It seems to make libido more focused, like a drive to get a woman instead of a drive to ejaculate. Lost interest in porn and don't feel rushed during sexual encounters.

Also never got any of this with 11-keto

This is exactly how I felt doing Pansterone every day, four drops each morning. Great feelings!

Using KetoDHT for me is less pronounced as well. Three drops is an OK amount for me. Androsterone only made my nipples itchy and gave me anxiety attacks after application.

I would be interested in using this DHT gel.