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Dear Cari,"Volkheimer found that mice fed raw starch aged at an abnormally fast rate, and when he dissected the starch-fed mice, he found a multitude of starch-grain-blocked arterioles in every organ, each of which caused the death of the cells that depended on the blood supplied by that arteriole. It isn’t hard to see how this would affect the functions of organs such as the brain and heart, even without considering the immunological and other implications of the presence of foreign particles randomly distributed through the tissue."
Ray Peat
I see and hear the "starch vs sugar" debate all the time on this forum, but after reading this quote from Ray Peat, what argument is there? Grains are proven to be one of several causes of Alzheimers. I know is true in my own father's case. It is called "grain brain". My father is a normal healthy person until he eats grains. After he eats a meal, with wheat particularly, he goes into a trance, where he won't talk much for several days and can't remember much of anything.
There is another book I read a few years back written by top cardiologist, Dr. Davis, and is titled "Wheat Belly". It not only makes a convincing case for why everyone is fat, but he also states that it is the number one reason for heart disease. This prompted me to go Paleo right away. Our modern wheat, he calls "Frankenwheat", because it is altered to a destructive monsterous state. It affects the opioid part of the brain, the same as drugs, causing a vicious cycle of unhealthy and unstoppable cravings. He goes so far as to say that our modern wheat is unsuitable for human consumption. From a "Peaty' perspective it is a book worth reading and will make those sweet little cupcakes look like frosted covered demons.
What happened to mankind that we have come so far from valuing food for how it strengthens us, like liver and heart, to choosing foods that we know are going to make us slow, ill and fat? I am not excluding myself from the latter. I justify a good bowl of pasta, by saying it is made with a better wheat from Italy and "look at all the protein I am getting". I know better, but yet I make the weaker choice too. I summize we make less optimal choices because nothing is really expected from our bodies anymore. Tribal hunters NEED to be strong and WANT to prove they are SUPERIOR. They need to be FAST and sustain ENERGY. Their eating optimally meant getting the next meal. Nowaday a meal is there without much effort. We can AFFORD to make LESS optimal choices because we TAKE our health for granted and value INDULGENCES more, never thinking of the COST. Look at the key words in the two different ways of eating.
In my youth when I saw a lot of life ahead of me I chose the "Live To Eat" stance, now that my youth is many years behind me I have changed my mind and now want to "Eat To Live". I just don't see the fun in ruining my health anymore.
Hi Mike! First thing is that Ray Peat said it is best to eat your proteins during the day and starchy carbs at night, to prepare for slowing down and sleep, so fruits only in a work-out would not be a good thing. Muscles need protein.Dear Cari,
Im struggling to find the concept for my lunch at work, so far it was white rice with piece of meat and some sides.
Today i will be trying sweet potatoes with butter and salt, but its probably first and last time i do this - for the carotene reason.
I would most likely be able to convert my starchy lunch for a bunch of fruits now-along my piece of beef, but there are few things i would want to understand.
Firstly, when i was lifting weights, eating fruits only during the day as a source of carbs was not an option, i was weak and had blood sugar swings and no muslce pump during session, that changed after reintroducing starches. Another thing is that wouldnt fructose in such amount be liver fattening?
I have recently changed morning oats in my smoothie to few bananas instead, and it is working, keeps my full for 3,5h same as with oats.
One thing i wont be able to change is my evening portion of boiled potatoes with grated cheese and ketchup, its just feels right in my heart, as oposed to rice/rice cakes, eating them for long time makes me want to change it to something else, my body doesnt like it as a part of my routine.
I've had the same experiences. No pump on fruits and low/ no starch. And whenever I would eat starch multiple days in a row, I would regain the pump in the gym.Firstly, when i was lifting weights, eating fruits only during the day as a source of carbs was not an option, i was weak and had blood sugar swings and no muslce pump during session, that changed after reintroducing starches. Another thing is that wouldnt fructose in such amount be liver fattening?
I've had far worse experiences with potatoes than with grains. Very constipating, depression-inducing.As far as starch goes, I see two types, grain starches and root vegetable starches, and the root vegetables are far superior to the grains. Not only are the grains an anti-nutrient, taking calcium and other nutrients out of the body, but it is hard on the digestion, breaking it all down. I think your potatoes at night are perfect
okay, I need to try these as I never tried them, and I don't feel like eating white potatoes twice a day, especially since they taste good only when prepared fresh.The white and purple fleshed sweet potatoes
I don’t have any bad experiences with any grains, but some things make me feel lighter than others, and the white sweet potatoes make me feel less weighted down than the regular white potatoes. I rarely eat regular potatoes.I've had the same experiences. No pump on fruits and low/ no starch. And whenever I would eat starch multiple days in a row, I would regain the pump in the gym.
I've had far worse experiences with potatoes than with grains. Very constipating, depression-inducing.
I agree about white potatoes being better eaten fresh.okay, I need to try these as I never tried them, and I don't feel like eating white potatoes twice a day, especially since they taste good only when prepared fresh.
do you think if I boil sweet white/purple in the morning will they still taste decent later in the day?I agree about white potatoes being better eaten fresh.