Peata's Log For Weight Loss & Misc

OP
Peata

Peata

Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2013
Messages
3,402
No diarrhea is FANTASTIC progress!!!! So glad you are over the bronchitis:)
Thank you.

It's weird but I had that chronic diarrhea all of 2014, then finally seemed to get it under control with Pepto Bismol. Then I had to take some antibiotics (i forget which antibiotics but the first one almost killed my gut and diarrhea went into overdrive, the second one didn't help) in the winter and the diarrhea came back.

This time, it seemed to be the Pau'darco and/or Z-pac antibiotic that fixed it this time. And all that after I tested negative for SIBO and whatever else they tested during that time I was having all the trouble.

Oh well, just glad it's gone and hoping the "bug" doesn't come back to my gut.
 
Joined
Jan 24, 2014
Messages
1,750
Me too EXACTLY.....I had major chronic gut issues for YEARS. I'm not sure how many docs I saw over the years, six or seven at least, but NO doctor (including gut specialists) was ever able to help me. Some of my issues were made much worse after taking antibiotics.

I had blood tests showing I was anemic and malnourished despite gaining a bunch of weight, they simply were not concerned cuz I wasn't wasting away. The last three docs that I saw wanted to subject me to even more super invasive (and EXPENSIVE) scope tests. I had already had a colonoscopy. I kept explaining that it seemed like some sorta infection, but antibiotics made it worse.....I began to realize they were NOT remotely interested in listening to the description of symptoms. Ultimately I got diagnosed me with "IBS" which is totally meaningless, prescribed Loperamide and a highly restrictive stupid fodmaps diet, wtf?

I know NOW that I had multiple layers of stuff going on in my intestines, it took a LOT of experimenting to figure things out. It's been an eye opening experience.

SIBO can cause extreme malnourishment, especially if it's long term....infections with PARASITES do too.

In addition to the lower cecum/ileo-cecal valve issues (which I finally resolved last summer with an anti-fungal) and the SIBO (which I fixed with the Raw Garlic Shock & Awe the previous year), I also had intermittent liver discomfort, like pressure... or a pinched feeling in the upper right quadrant under my right rib cage.

I used to think it was gallbladder issues, but I've never had a gall bladder attack, no severe pain and the discomfort wasn't triggered by a fatty meal. It would come and go quite randomly and I could never ever figure out what caused it. No amount of dietary food elimination seemed to change anything. I went in last year and had an ultrasound done which showed absolutely NOTHING, so I would soon forget about it...until the next "episode" which didn't occur very often. I found out by accident that I actually had an infection of flukes, I know...TOTALLY GROSS....and completely shocking, but I saw them with my own eyes!!! I guess they can't be seen on an ultrasound.

My official non-expert opinion is that doctors don't know sh*t (or don't care) about the true CAUSES of extreme gut duress. I found out through my own backwards research that flukes are quite common, that they can live for years, they live in bile ducts eating bile (causing poor digestion) and can cause irritation and liver cancer if left untreated. FABULOUS....it's no wonder my liver has struggled. At any rate, I killed them...well most of them, I hope. Chronic parasitic infections...that'll raise some stress hormones.

I can now eat anything and everything I want. In any quantity that I want. And trust me, I've been pushing it to the absolute limit trying to trigger an episode. I can eat 900 grams (two HUGE baked potatoes) with no butter/sour cream, no fat whatsoever and NOT trigger any bloating or diarrhea. This feat was impossible for me a year ago.

I can eat an entire 12 inch pizza (all to myself in one sitting) piled high with massive amounts of cheese and fibrous veggies like onions, pepper and sun-dried tomatoes etc. and it won't even phase me. No amount of fat will trigger the loose yellow greasy stools. I can't even get my guts to bloat on giant bowls of white rice.

I think about all the people that struggle with chronic gut issues, restrictive food diets, irrational food fears .....and it makes me so sad. Then I get pissed off because a lot of folks are making bank (Big Buck$) off of other people's suffering.

Peata, if you ever experience the following: a pinched liver feeling (mild upper right quadrant pain) or pale stools, bloating/indigestion in the upper GI/duodenum then you might consider looking into trematode infection. I'm not saying you have an infection, but for anyone reading this, just keep it in mind.

"Trematodes, also referred to as “flukes,” can invade the nervous system secondarily after blood, liver, intestinal, or pulmonary infection. Most species, except Schistosoma, are hermaphroditic and capable of reproduction and survival within the host. Trematodes possess two anterior suckers for firm attachment to their host." LOVELY, aren't they?


I also think that perhaps the sudden gluten sensitivity that everyone is experiencing might caused by some sort of protozoan infection. I dunno, nobody was "allergic" to wheat when I was growing up and now it seems like EVERYONE is....I guess it could be GMO's...perhaps Round-Up ready crops mess up our gut flora??? And antibiotics make the imbalance worse?

Sorry for the ramble...I'm still in shock that this whole microbial mayhem isn't taken more seriously, especially because it IS so prevalent....I suffered for so long.
 
OP
Peata

Peata

Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2013
Messages
3,402
Me too EXACTLY.....I had major chronic gut issues for YEARS. I'm not sure how many docs I saw over the years, six or seven at least, but NO doctor (including gut specialists) was ever able to help me. Some of my issues were made much worse after taking antibiotics.

I had blood tests showing I was anemic and malnourished despite gaining a bunch of weight, they simply were not concerned cuz I wasn't wasting away. The last three docs that I saw wanted to subject me to even more super invasive (and EXPENSIVE) scope tests. I had already had a colonoscopy. I kept explaining that it seemed like some sorta infection, but antibiotics made it worse.....I began to realize they were NOT remotely interested in listening to the description of symptoms. Ultimately I got diagnosed me with "IBS" which is totally meaningless, prescribed Loperamide and a highly restrictive stupid fodmaps diet, wtf?

I know NOW that I had multiple layers of stuff going on in my intestines, it took a LOT of experimenting to figure things out. It's been an eye opening experience.

SIBO can cause extreme malnourishment, especially if it's long term....infections with PARASITES do too.

In addition to the lower cecum/ileo-cecal valve issues (which I finally resolved last summer with an anti-fungal) and the SIBO (which I fixed with the Raw Garlic Shock & Awe the previous year), I also had intermittent liver discomfort, like pressure... or a pinched feeling in the upper right quadrant under my right rib cage.

I used to think it was gallbladder issues, but I've never had a gall bladder attack, no severe pain and the discomfort wasn't triggered by a fatty meal. It would come and go quite randomly and I could never ever figure out what caused it. No amount of dietary food elimination seemed to change anything. I went in last year and had an ultrasound done which showed absolutely NOTHING, so I would soon forget about it...until the next "episode" which didn't occur very often. I found out by accident that I actually had an infection of flukes, I know...TOTALLY GROSS....and completely shocking, but I saw them with my own eyes!!! I guess they can't be seen on an ultrasound.

My official non-expert opinion is that doctors don't know sh*t (or don't care) about the true CAUSES of extreme gut duress. I found out through my own backwards research that flukes are quite common, that they can live for years, they live in bile ducts eating bile (causing poor digestion) and can cause irritation and liver cancer if left untreated. FABULOUS....it's no wonder my liver has struggled. At any rate, I killed them...well most of them, I hope. Chronic parasitic infections...that'll raise some stress hormones.

I can now eat anything and everything I want. In any quantity that I want. And trust me, I've been pushing it to the absolute limit trying to trigger an episode. I can eat 900 grams (two HUGE baked potatoes) with no butter/sour cream, no fat whatsoever and NOT trigger any bloating or diarrhea. This feat was impossible for me a year ago.

I can eat an entire 12 inch pizza (all to myself in one sitting) piled high with massive amounts of cheese and fibrous veggies like onions, pepper and sun-dried tomatoes etc. and it won't even phase me. No amount of fat will trigger the loose yellow greasy stools. I can't even get my guts to bloat on giant bowls of white rice.

I think about all the people that struggle with chronic gut issues, restrictive food diets, irrational food fears .....and it makes me so sad. Then I get pissed off because a lot of folks are making bank (Big Buck$) off of other people's suffering.

Peata, if you ever experience the following: a pinched liver feeling (mild upper right quadrant pain) or pale stools, bloating/indigestion in the upper GI/duodenum then you might consider looking into trematode infection. I'm not saying you have an infection, but for anyone reading this, just keep it in mind.

"Trematodes, also referred to as “flukes,” can invade the nervous system secondarily after blood, liver, intestinal, or pulmonary infection. Most species, except Schistosoma, are hermaphroditic and capable of reproduction and survival within the host. Trematodes possess two anterior suckers for firm attachment to their host." LOVELY, aren't they?


I also think that perhaps the sudden gluten sensitivity that everyone is experiencing might caused by some sort of protozoan infection. I dunno, nobody was "allergic" to wheat when I was growing up and now it seems like EVERYONE is....I guess it could be GMO's...perhaps Round-Up ready crops mess up our gut flora??? And antibiotics make the imbalance worse?

Sorry for the ramble...I'm still in shock that this whole microbial mayhem isn't taken more seriously, especially because it IS so prevalent....I suffered for so long.

What did you do to rid yourself of the flukes?
 
OP
Peata

Peata

Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2013
Messages
3,402
Did I see in another thread you got the flukes from watercress?
 
Joined
Jan 24, 2014
Messages
1,750
I've been going over in my mind all of the places that I could have picked them up and yes, watercress salads are merely one possibility. Eating big organic salads was part of a health kick I was on a few years ago.

I should mention that I didn't know I had flukes specifically, I was taking an herbal antimicrobial and found out by accident when I passed them...sorta horrifying actually.
 
Joined
Jan 24, 2014
Messages
1,750
Cringe with me, won't you???

Fascioliasis is a parasitic infection typically caused by Fasciola hepatica, which is also known as "the common liver fluke" or "the sheep liver fluke." A related parasite, Fasciola gigantica, also can infect people. Fascioliasis is found in all 5 continents, in over 50 countries, especially where sheep or cattle are reared. People usually become infected by eating raw watercress or other water plants contaminated with immature parasite larvae. The immature larval flukes migrate through the intestinal wall, the abdominal cavity, and the liver tissue, into the bile ducts, where they develop into mature adult flukes, which produce eggs. The pathology typically is most pronounced in the bile ducts and liver. Fasciola infection is both treatable and preventable.


CDC - Fasciola
 

tomisonbottom

Member
Joined
Apr 17, 2013
Messages
920
I've been going over in my mind all of the places that I could have picked them up and yes, watercress salads are merely one possibility. Eating big organic salads was part of a health kick I was on a few years ago.

I should mention that I didn't know I had flukes specifically, I was taking an herbal antimicrobial and found out by accident when I passed them...sorta horrifying actually.

So the herbal antimicrobial was how you got rid of them? What was it exactly?
 
Joined
Jan 24, 2014
Messages
1,750
*FAIR WARNING* What I'm writing here is in NO way Peat approved or recommended (and will probably get me booted off the forum, oh well).

It's the best stuff on the planet as far as I'm concerned and my health has improved so dramatically that I feel it is completely worth the risk. Please do your own research/due diligence. Please, if you choose to try it, follow proper protocol.

The essential oil of turpentine and its major volatile fraction (α- and β-pinenes): A review

4 oz Gum Spirits of Turpentine



Again, I'm not advising anyone to take this stuff (it's kinda like tea tree oil), but I must say that after years and YEARS of struggling with various gut issues this is the one product I would use again if I had to......nothing else compares. Apparently it's been used since ancient times.

Raw Garlic, Nystatin, Olive Leaf Extract, Pau D'arco....they're all good and fine, but they are NOWHERE NEAR is as quick, effective and thorough (not to mention cheap) as 100% Pure Gum Spirits Essential Oil of Turpentine.

I gave one tsp. to my youngest son (he's 22 years old) back in January, he had just returned from a cruise to Jamaica, Cozumel, Grand Cayman and was violently ill (throwing up, diarrhea, couldn't keep anything in him for two days). I'm not sure if he had some weird gut bug from a foreign country or food poisoning from the cruise ship or what, but ONE DOSE of turpentine was all it took. He slept soundly that night and was able to return to work the next day and felt totally fine.

There is a good bit of info out there if you dig deep enough.
 
Joined
Jan 24, 2014
Messages
1,750
The moron in the video is less than a millimeter deep. I'm all ears if you have some serious arguments for eating turpentine.


I know, he's a dweeb. I only posted that video because it shows a great way to dose the turpentine.

My thinking is constantly evolving..... I used to think that candida was my only problem, but NOW that I've had this experience I'm thinking that it was the parasites causing me problems all along and the candida overgrowth was merely a bystander....either taking advantage or perhaps doing a clean up job after the damage from the flukes. Who knows?

Did you read the review from the first link bobbybobob?

Humans have parasites....some more than others....especially people with low stomach acid (hypothyroid).


Parasites found in pre-washed packages of lettuce: Health Canada
 

PakPik

Member
Joined
Feb 24, 2016
Messages
331
Me too EXACTLY.....I had major chronic gut issues for YEARS. I'm not sure how many docs I saw over the years, six or seven at least, but NO doctor (including gut specialists) was ever able to help me. Some of my issues were made much worse after taking antibiotics.

I had blood tests showing I was anemic and malnourished despite gaining a bunch of weight, they simply were not concerned cuz I wasn't wasting away. The last three docs that I saw wanted to subject me to even more super invasive (and EXPENSIVE) scope tests. I had already had a colonoscopy. I kept explaining that it seemed like some sorta infection, but antibiotics made it worse.....I began to realize they were NOT remotely interested in listening to the description of symptoms. Ultimately I got diagnosed me with "IBS" which is totally meaningless, prescribed Loperamide and a highly restrictive stupid fodmaps diet, wtf?

I know NOW that I had multiple layers of stuff going on in my intestines, it took a LOT of experimenting to figure things out. It's been an eye opening experience.

SIBO can cause extreme malnourishment, especially if it's long term....infections with PARASITES do too.

In addition to the lower cecum/ileo-cecal valve issues (which I finally resolved last summer with an anti-fungal) and the SIBO (which I fixed with the Raw Garlic Shock & Awe the previous year), I also had intermittent liver discomfort, like pressure... or a pinched feeling in the upper right quadrant under my right rib cage.

I used to think it was gallbladder issues, but I've never had a gall bladder attack, no severe pain and the discomfort wasn't triggered by a fatty meal. It would come and go quite randomly and I could never ever figure out what caused it. No amount of dietary food elimination seemed to change anything. I went in last year and had an ultrasound done which showed absolutely NOTHING, so I would soon forget about it...until the next "episode" which didn't occur very often. I found out by accident that I actually had an infection of flukes, I know...TOTALLY GROSS....and completely shocking, but I saw them with my own eyes!!! I guess they can't be seen on an ultrasound.

My official non-expert opinion is that doctors don't know sh*t (or don't care) about the true CAUSES of extreme gut duress. I found out through my own backwards research that flukes are quite common, that they can live for years, they live in bile ducts eating bile (causing poor digestion) and can cause irritation and liver cancer if left untreated. FABULOUS....it's no wonder my liver has struggled. At any rate, I killed them...well most of them, I hope. Chronic parasitic infections...that'll raise some stress hormones.

I can now eat anything and everything I want. In any quantity that I want. And trust me, I've been pushing it to the absolute limit trying to trigger an episode. I can eat 900 grams (two HUGE baked potatoes) with no butter/sour cream, no fat whatsoever and NOT trigger any bloating or diarrhea. This feat was impossible for me a year ago.

I can eat an entire 12 inch pizza (all to myself in one sitting) piled high with massive amounts of cheese and fibrous veggies like onions, pepper and sun-dried tomatoes etc. and it won't even phase me. No amount of fat will trigger the loose yellow greasy stools. I can't even get my guts to bloat on giant bowls of white rice.

I think about all the people that struggle with chronic gut issues, restrictive food diets, irrational food fears .....and it makes me so sad. Then I get pissed off because a lot of folks are making bank (Big Buck$) off of other people's suffering.

Peata, if you ever experience the following: a pinched liver feeling (mild upper right quadrant pain) or pale stools, bloating/indigestion in the upper GI/duodenum then you might consider looking into trematode infection. I'm not saying you have an infection, but for anyone reading this, just keep it in mind.

"Trematodes, also referred to as “flukes,” can invade the nervous system secondarily after blood, liver, intestinal, or pulmonary infection. Most species, except Schistosoma, are hermaphroditic and capable of reproduction and survival within the host. Trematodes possess two anterior suckers for firm attachment to their host." LOVELY, aren't they?


I also think that perhaps the sudden gluten sensitivity that everyone is experiencing might caused by some sort of protozoan infection. I dunno, nobody was "allergic" to wheat when I was growing up and now it seems like EVERYONE is....I guess it could be GMO's...perhaps Round-Up ready crops mess up our gut flora??? And antibiotics make the imbalance worse?

Sorry for the ramble...I'm still in shock that this whole microbial mayhem isn't taken more seriously, especially because it IS so prevalent....I suffered for so long.

Hi BigP,
I want to thank you for thoroughly sharing your experiences and observations with the rest of us. Believe me, it's very valuable. I've also come to similar conclusions and have had similar things happen to me. I did the garlic thing for my SIBO in 2014, and I was so overjoyed to then find out about you, and that you also got relief from it. The G.I problems are just layers and layers of issues perpetuating themselves in vicious cycle. I'll keep in mind those very ugly parasites you've discovered, although I don't have terrible G.I issues anymore and I can eat things that were impossible in the past. Something is really wrong with society when historical things like wheat and milk aren't digested anymore. In my case, the strongest factors for bad G.I came down to 1) estrogen laden body due to inflammation and hypothyroidsm and 2) PUFA laden cells. To make matters worse, 1) and 2) perpetuate each other. So, I also went through the Progest E bottles, the prometabolic supps and the PUFA depleting -but nourishing- diet, and it's been such a tremendous relief! My best hopes for you, and I hope you keep discovering amazing things :)
 
OP
Peata

Peata

Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2013
Messages
3,402
The diarrhea came back yesterday evening :( But I'm hoping it was because I had a protein bar (desperate for something quick and easy to eat on the go) that I didn't know contained "sugar alcohols" that can cause GI upset. I'm hoping that was the reason why. If not, then that means the effect of the pau d'arco and antibiotic wore off and I'm back where I started. :hairpull Who knows, I may have to look into the turpentine.
 

Brian

Member
Joined
Jun 8, 2014
Messages
505
I know, he's a dweeb. I only posted that video because it shows a great way to dose the turpentine.

My thinking is constantly evolving..... I used to think that candida was my only problem, but NOW that I've had this experience I'm thinking that it was the parasites causing me problems all along and the candida overgrowth was merely a bystander....either taking advantage or perhaps doing a clean up job after the damage from the flukes. Who knows?

Did you read the review from the first link bobbybobob?

Humans have parasites....some more than others....especially people with low stomach acid (hypothyroid).


Parasites found in pre-washed packages of lettuce: Health Canada

Lately I have been researching how intestinal bacteria and fungi can form biofilms that protect them from antimicrobials and your immune system. Some of the best anti-biofilm substances are concentrated plant substances, especially from trees, that serve a similar purpose for their own protection. One of which is aspirin, which I have had positive experiences with in high doses.

So it would make sense that something like turpentine oil could also have a potent effect. The idea is to disrupt the ability for microbes to communicate with each other chemically (Quorum Sensing), so they can no longer create and maintain the strength of their biofilm shields.

High dose aspirin isn't something you can really do too often and not everybody tolerates, so it would be great if there was something potent and safe to use for a general anti-biofilm treatment. It might also be a good idea to take activated charcoal later in the day to help remove the disrupted biofilms.

Thanks for posting this. It sounds like something worth experimenting with.
 
Joined
Jan 24, 2014
Messages
1,750
Hi Brian...I have come to the same conclusions as you have. I posted some interesting videos on biofilms over on my log. Turpentine is truly amazing stuff, I will never be without it (a permanent part of my first aid kit).
 
Joined
Jan 24, 2014
Messages
1,750
The diarrhea came back yesterday evening :( But I'm hoping it was because I had a protein bar (desperate for something quick and easy to eat on the go) that I didn't know contained "sugar alcohols" that can cause GI upset. I'm hoping that was the reason why. If not, then that means the effect of the pau d'arco and antibiotic wore off and I'm back where I started. :hairpull Who knows, I may have to look into the turpentine.

Hmmm....sugar alcohols could do it.

Read the first link on the review of turpentine, it's good for bronchitis too!!!
 
OP
Peata

Peata

Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2013
Messages
3,402
Somebody else had a post a while back about parasites they flushed, and mentioned they looked like "leaves", and that's what I see when I google images of trematodes.
 
Joined
Jan 24, 2014
Messages
1,750
They look EXACTLY like little brown leaves, just like the picture in the CDC link that I posted above.

I took my first dose on December 29th, just one teaspoon on sugar. I continued with dosing twice a week. By the end of the first week of January my stool had gone very pale and my liver was in the throes of that all too familiar pinched achey feeling. I became very constipated and I was living on apple juice and raw milk at the time due to mild nausea. I hadn't eaten anything that looked even remotely like dark brown leaves. These flukes came packaged with a huge mass of little black balls, looked like peppercorns....hundreds and hundreds of them. I didn't eat anything that looked like those either. I'm guessing the little black balls were gallstones??? I passed them on January 8th, the relief has been AMAZING. My digestion hasn't been this good in decades. I can eat like a kid again. Seriously.

One teaspoon on sugar, two times per week. I've had 8 doses total and took a break....ya know, to make sure I'd live through it.:eek:
 
OP
Peata

Peata

Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2013
Messages
3,402
Thanks for the detailed info. I think that's brave of you to carry on when the liver symptoms came. I would probably fear I was killing my liver with the turpentine. Glad you've had such relief. If the diarrhea continues, I will have to consider it.
 
EMF Mitigation - Flush Niacin - Big 5 Minerals

Similar threads

Back
Top Bottom