Tricks For Reducing Face Puffiness

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  1. Sobieski

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    Just to add to this my face has become way more chiselled and angular since peating. This isn't my own subjective opinion but also others have told me themselves.
    Here's what has helped me but might not work for others:

    Less (preferably zero) starch
    K2
    Taurine
    Orange juice (lots of it - more the better)
    sugar
    Saturated fat
    Less fiber
    and of course, last but not least - AS LITTLE PUFA as possible
     
  2. cyclops

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    Cool. Do you think you just lost bodyfat or the diet changed your hormones or something so it actually reduced bloating? How much taurine are you taking?
     
  3. superhuman

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    Wow that is a big amount of protein. How many grams of carbs? you should try with a ratio of 2:1 minimum carbs:protein or else cortisol tends to raise to much which also causes face puffyness.

    baking soda try 1 tablespoon and wash down with water between meals. It usually helps. 4 tsp a day is a good general recommendation.
    I would also do 10-15 grams of regular salt a day
     
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    How much K2 and Taurine? and why do you think these two have had an effect and what have you noticed from them?
     
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    Cool thanks. Yea I weigh about 250 and weight train and think I benefit from the higher protein. I think I get more then 500 grabs of carbs a day, but I really should calculate that. Thanks for the advice I will try that.
     
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    Fat puffyness can also be fat, 250 is not light :) 0.86g/lbs is enough protein i think, based on Menno Henselmans and many others. Then you can add carbs so carb:protein ratio would be better
     
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    Lol this is true, no doubt. Its kind of an experiment right now while lifting allot, not sure I will keep it this high.
     
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    I usually take about half a teaspoon of taurine and anywhere from 2 to 20 mg's K2. I know K2 helps androgen production which reduces water retention, and Taurine has some part to play in metabolism of carbs and also helps T production. I've had blood tests to confirm that my test is much higher Peating. Regarding fat/water loss; If anything I've put on fat since peating but the distribution of water and fat has come away from my face/chin and more around my midsection. All it takes though is just 1-2 days of eating whole grains and pufa's and my face swells up and I look about 5 years older, so I have to stay fairly 'strict'.
     
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    ;)

    Also you have dhea, progesterone, pregnenolone and thyroid that all reduced water retention
     
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    To add to my previous post, I first noticed my initial edema reduction from pregnenolone. I.E the 'face lift' Ray has written about.
     
  11. superhuman

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    Cool. 1/2 tsp taurine a day? and 2-20mg k2 a day?
     
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    Yes something along those lines. When I say I have to be strict I'm referring more to diet than supplements. GUARANTEED low starch will reduce systematic water retention. Supplements just amplify this effect, and are useless if your diet/environment is stressful/oestrogenic. I just take supplements when I have time in the day. Sometimes I feel like more sometimes less. Also staying hydrated helps a lot, I think the fluids, sugar and vitamins in oj really help a lot.

    I think most males with average bone structure can achieve a chiselled face with low enough bodyfat and water retention.
     
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    I agree. Whick K2 do you use? do you use it orally or topical? i know using it orally is better to have with a fatty meal?
     
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    I use Haidut's usually orally, I don't really pay attention to timing etc. I sometimes use it topically but I usually just swill it round my mouth and swallow as it's quicker than rubbing it on my wrists etc.
     
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    Yea I just measured this, probably getting around 20-25 grams a day!
     
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    Than you have that covered :) try sodium bicarb then. 1 tablespoon and wash it down with water. You should notice effects within 0-30 minutes. So that is something you can do right away and see
     
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    O so you mean 1 tablespoon 4 times a day? I thought you meant 1 teaspoon 4 times a day, which is a little more then a tablespoon for the day. I just did a teaspoon 10 minutes ago. Dont notice anything yet, guess Ill go try s'more.
     
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    yeah 4 tsp a day aka 1 tsp 4 times a day is standard. But i like to do 1 tablespoon or 2 tablespoons a day as well. I myself noticed better reduction in water retention from doing that. Just taking 1 tablespoon once or twice a day. The effect happened in 0-30 minutes
     
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    How much you taking?
     
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    I don't really take any anymore, it is hit and miss and doesn't really have much of an effect now.
     
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