Topical Pregnenolone/DHT/11-Keto For Penis Growth

[Adrian_B]

Hello, I've seen some posts regarding this on this forum. I have placed an order of Andractim that I will try using. I have also heard things about 11-Oxo which could also be used topically - I'd love to hear if there's anything one can do, I am quite young so any results will be greater for me.

 

[Broken man]

Me too, I am doing PE for 2 weeks now. Maybe androsterone and Pansterone combo?

 

[BigYellowLemon]

Do you have a micropenis or are you just insecure?

Do you actually think having a bigger penis will make a difference in your life?

I doubt you will get any results and will instead waste money and time, you will stress yourself out over results that probably won't come.

There's a lot of reasons, many subconscious, on why you would have a desire like this. Abandon them all and be free.

 

[Broken man]

I think that its same as with regular exercising, I just want be better man overall.

 

[BigYellowLemon]

I think that its same as with regular exercising, I just want be better man overall.

Okay I understand what you are saying. Half a year ago I would've related. I was pretty obsessed with that sorta thing and I remember thinking about ways to increase penis length as well as becoming a "better man".

Now, are you getting these hormones purely for penis size or is that a side-benefit you'd be happy to have?

 

[Broken man]

Okay I understand what you are saying. Half a year ago I would've related. I was pretty obsessed with that sorta thing and I remember thinking about ways to increase penis length as well as becoming a "better man".

Now, are you getting these hormones purely for penis size or is that a side-benefit you'd be happy to have?

Only reason why I am doing PE is because of my hairloss. Reasons why I am obsessed with androgens are that I have gyno, alot of abdominal fat, I am looking like my grandpa. Nice feeling. PE is like confidence booster. Look on african men, they are happy even their living isnt easy and they are poor. I think that knowledge and health are important factors to be happy. I am coeliac and I have problems with my heart, I didnt want it, just got it.

 

[BigYellowLemon]

Only reason why I am doing PE is because of my hairloss. Reasons why I am obsessed with androgens are that I have gyno, alot of abdominal fat, I am looking like my grandpa. Nice feeling. PE is like confidence booster. Look on african men, they are happy even their living isnt easy and they are poor. I think that knowledge and health are important factors to be happy. I am coeliac and I have problems with my heart, I didnt want it, just got it.

I understand. Sorry if I presumed.

However I disagree with your assumption that poor African men are virile and happy. I think they are probably average in testosterone and are probably not so happy.

lol, what forums have you been browsing and where did you get this idea.

 

[schultz]

What's the topical absorption like on that product?

Maybe forget about topical application to your genitals and take the DHT orally. It seems like you're struggling with mental issues (confidence, happiness, etc.) and taking the DHT orally may have more of a systemic effect. I don't really know though.

However I disagree with your assumption that poor African men are virile and happy. I think they are probably average in testosterone and are probably not so happy.

A study I read suggested African American men have low testosterone and high DHT. Asian Americans had high testosterone and low DHT, and Caucasians were in the middle (generally).

 

[BigYellowLemon]

What's the topical absorption like on that product?

Maybe forget about topical application to your genitals and take the DHT orally. It seems like you're struggling with mental issues (confidence, happiness, etc.) and taking the DHT orally may have more of a systemic effect. I don't really know though.



A study I read suggested African American men have low testosterone and high DHT. Asian Americans had high testosterone and low DHT, and Caucasians were in the middle (generally).

The whole paradigm of black people being more masculine is something I'm very skeptical of.

Testosterone | Ethnic Muse

I very quickly skimmed this and have no idea if it's correct. I don't care enough to look haha.

I don't see any point in being masculine. I like neoteny and femininity. I think Ray has talked about this before, saying that progesterone and thyroid is what made humans human. **** sexual dimorphism, I'd prefer being both.

 

[JohnHafterson]

Hello, I've seen some posts regarding this on this forum. I have placed an order of Andractim that I will try using. I have also heard things about 11-Oxo which could also be used topically - I'd love to hear if there's anything one can do, I am quite young so any results will be greater for me.

Penis size does seem to follow a bell curve with majority of men falling in the middle within a few standard deviations. Small and large size less frequent and at the outer edges.

Be comfortable with what you have, control what you can and forget about what you cant.

Get a good job, manage your finances, exercise, dress nice, focus on these things. So many types of women out there, **** size is not that important in the big picture.

For every guy out there worried about his size there is an equal number of women worried about their own self-perceived issues.

 

[ecstatichamster]

people who are worried about penis size shouldn't watch porn. Watching porn encourages feelings of inferiority.

 

[Adrian_B]

What's the topical absorption like on that product?

Maybe forget about topical application to your genitals and take the DHT orally. It seems like you're struggling with mental issues (confidence, happiness, etc.) and taking the DHT orally may have more of a systemic effect. I don't really know though.



A study I read suggested African American men have low testosterone and high DHT. Asian Americans had high testosterone and low DHT, and Caucasians were in the middle (generally).

I am actually already using Proviron and my girth seems to have improved. Have used it at 25mg for a few months now every day and considering how young I am the effects have come really quickly for me.

I will buy some Pregnenolone, but I doubt it will have any affect on **** growth, some have mentioned getting gyno from it so I am too scared to put it on my penis due to the estrogenic effects.
Someone else on this forum mentioned 11-Oxo on the **** for growth, since it works the same as DHT. I might also try Trestolone topical on my penis in the near future, after I am done with testing out my Andractim.

 

[Adrian_B]

bump

 

[Bahaa El wazzan]

people who are worried about penis size shouldn't watch porn. Watching porn encourages feelings of inferiority.

Whats wrong with porn ?
Its like energy booster

 

[Bahaa El wazzan]

Well the penis size is what make people feel bad unfortunately

But the girl that cares abt penis size
Is not more than a piece of ***t ?

And try to kick her out of ur life asap
...
Listen to what happened many years ago
"
One day i was having sex
We were me and my friend

So we met 2 girls in the club

And we took them to the #chalet

This friend was a real nice man and true friend back then

So while having like group sex 2 men with 2 girls

One of the girl told my friend
" you re penis is smaller than my finger and she laughed like a ***t

So that pissed me off
So i looked at her
I told her

His penis is maybe not big enough
But he got it and he doesnt have the choice

But what about your vagina that smell like thyme and poop

Remind me to buy you a vaginal wash

"

So guys trust me
Penis size is nothing more than size


And its not something wrong at all

 

[ecstatichamster]

Whats wrong with porn ?
Its like energy booster

It caused ED in many men.

 

[Bahaa El wazzan]

What the heck!!?!

Why @ecstatichamster

 

[Adrian_B]

What the heck!!?!

Why @ecstatichamster

Porn ***** up your dopamine based reward system and makes you evolve fetishes in order to get off the same way you used to. When you first started watching porn, odds are that you nutted before the video even loaded and you could watch anything and cum in a second. By now you might even be opening multiple tabs to get the same enjoyment. The reason 12 year olds can wank to granny porn isn't because they're young or their brains are f*cked up - it's the way it should be. Healthy males have a high sex drive and your fetishes and tastes should evolve naturally based on the women you can get in real life. You're seeing more woman on a single porn site than your ancestors saw their whole lives.

To sum it up porn is bad mmkay. It's addicting as **** and I sometimes wonder if I'll ever recover from the porn damage that happened to me, I started watching it really young and I like to cope by blaming my shitty childhood and early teens on porn addiction, it stunted me socially and made me less attracted to girls in real life so I never had female validation since I didn't pursue them.

That being said masturbation isn't bad itself, I don't believe in "nofap", it should only be done if you can get multiple women and get laid once a week, but even then that might lead to you spending too much time pursuing females. Testosterone levels have been shown to peak after 8 days of abstaining from masturbation, then returning to baseline levels, and I can't be 100% sure of this but asides from the thousands of anecdotes online, there may be a drop in libido if you abstain for too long - many people I know and myself even have noticed this. You don't want to lose your random erections throughout the day, they're healthy and help you maintain a healthy **** size, plus it has been shown men with priapism and painful long lasting erections can end up developing bigger penises, due to the **** growing from the all the blood vessels expanding... again, anecdotally speaking, before I went on ADD meds that absolutely ruined my erections and large flaccid, I remember having a lot better girth, especially in my early teens where I had really thick girth on mid shaft, this is common in men with painful long lasting erections, much like I was back then. Now my erections are well above average but my flaccid is very, very small, and I believe there has been a decrease in girth in erections as well.

That energy boost you're talking about should be coming from pursuing real women. Porn should only be a last resort for the guys beyond saving who will never get women, even then, it should be done in moderation so that you don't screw up your reward system or develop sick fetishes.

To sum it up again, seriously just don't watch porn unless you don't have a choice and really that's bad advice too because you'll end up telling yourself you need it when even the ugliest of guys can get laid, even if the sexual market is much more competitive now than it was 50 years ago.

Went a bit off topic, but it's true, the rumors are true son, spread the word.

 

[Frankdee20]

Whats wrong with porn ?
Its like energy booster

I guess he meant the degree of virility one sees occurring in pornographic films could theoretically elicit insecurities in some people (upon comparing ourselves).

I hate pornography because after I watch it for let's say 15-20 minutes, I feel very shitty. Mostly mental fatigue, intense depression, and absentmindedness, overstimulated my brain kind of thing. I guess I'm just a sensitive Sally who can't breathe his own air.

 

[Jing]

Anyone had any luck increasing penis size?