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Soren

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Good morning, @haidut what is the maximum dose of this product of yours that can be considered acceptable?

You will not get a specific answer from haidut because this is a substance for "research purposes" and it is legally questionable to recommend things like this when you're not a doctor or if it has not been approved to treat a specific issue.

Also in terms of dose it is going to vary a lot person to person, you should look through the thread and see what other people are doing. You can use the search function to search a specific thread for things like "dose".

Personally I started off with a very low dose of 1 drop and built up over a number of days and weeks. Eventually I was up to 5 drops twice per day and felt great but this lowered my cortisol too much and left me with joint and muscle pain which was intolerable. Now I use it when i'm experiencing high levels of stress. Again everyone is different depending on weight, age, gender and level of stress.
 

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Hi everyone,

Just want to share a quick tip that I use to make sure everything is well absorbed / determine how much has been absorbed so far.

I guess this trick that I'm about to share with you apply to a lot of idealabs products, at least the tocopherols/SFA types, and since lately I've been applying 6-Keto P4 topically (navel route), I'll just post it on this thread.

So, I was routinely applying my 8 drops of 6-Keto in the belly button, I let it there and wait like 10 min so the product can raise to body temp, then I just grab the skin around the belly button and then rub skin against skin so the warm oil get really well spread and I don't waste any on my fingertips, then I wait a bit more.

The thing is, I can't really lie down like this for too long since I have stuff to do. But at the same time I was like OK my skin is still shining a lot so it's not totally absorbed. So if I put my t-shirt on, it's gonna be the one who absorbs the precious compound. And once again I don't want to use my fingers to make sure the 8 drops are absorbed in this area.

So what I did is, I took a tea spoon and gently scraped (with the edge) the shiny skin to gather the remaining oil (btw I noticed that of course 3/4 of it was already absorbed). Then I use the back of the spoon to spread it all around the belly button and it works just fine.

Et voila ! Hope it'll help
 

golder

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Hi everyone,

Just want to share a quick tip that I use to make sure everything is well absorbed / determine how much has been absorbed so far.

I guess this trick that I'm about to share with you apply to a lot of idealabs products, at least the tocopherols/SFA types, and since lately I've been applying 6-Keto P4 topically (navel route), I'll just post it on this thread.

So, I was routinely applying my 8 drops of 6-Keto in the belly button, I let it there and wait like 10 min so the product can raise to body temp, then I just grab the skin around the belly button and then rub skin against skin so the warm oil get really well spread and I don't waste any on my fingertips, then I wait a bit more.

The thing is, I can't really lie down like this for too long since I have stuff to do. But at the same time I was like OK my skin is still shining a lot so it's not totally absorbed. So if I put my t-shirt on, it's gonna be the one who absorbs the precious compound. And once again I don't want to use my fingers to make sure the 8 drops are absorbed in this area.

So what I did is, I took a tea spoon and gently scraped (with the edge) the shiny skin to gather the remaining oil (btw I noticed that of course 3/4 of it was already absorbed). Then I use the back of the spoon to spread it all around the belly button and it works just fine.

Et voila ! Hope it'll help
Good idea. I’ll be trying this tomorrow! Thanks :)
 

Megamole

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I know it's mentioned in the original post that 6-keto P4 is more or less unable to dissolve in substances other than ones like ethyl acetoacetate, but could one still gain the extra boost to absorption and potentiating effects from DMSO if they added some to the solution? My chemistry knowledge is a bit rusty so was wondering if @haidut or someone else who has tried adding some to the formula could weigh in. I can't imagine that adding a few percentiles would knock it out of solution but never hurts to check, and the potential benefits for getting it into rats (since they don't like the taste and don't take kindly to having large amounts slathered topically) with a bit of extra oomph.
 

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