Advice On Starting Testosterone Base?

[TheBeard]

And where does this test base come from? You always talk about test is cheap you can get it easily blah blah but you never share your sources ..

I shared it with everyone who PMd me.
It's also one of the easiest thing to find online if you know how to type on a keyboard, and I'm very average at best with a computer.
That's the price of raw powder.
You'd be a fool to inject it when you can get superior results by just mixing it with DMSO.

 

[TheBeard]

I honestly doubt orally you are going to get all the testosterone you swallow . Otherwise injecting wouldn't be a thing.

Wouldn't be the first time millions of people are doing something absurd when there actually is an alternative

 

[TheBeard]

Ok,well I still haven't seen anything that shows esters are dangerous.

So if you haven't seen it it doesn't exist?

 

[Jing]

I shared it with everyone who PMd me.
It's also one of the easiest thing to find online if you know how to type on a keyboard, and I'm very average at best with a computer.
That's the price of raw powder.
You'd be a fool to inject it when you can get superior results by just mixing it with DMSO.

Superior results with dmso? So why aren't all bodybuilders just using dmso?

 

[Jing]

So if you haven't seen it it doesn't exist?

Well you can't just make a claim and expect people to believe you with no evidence.

 

[TheBeard]

Superior results with dmso? So why aren't all bodybuilders just using dmso?

Same answer as my previous comment two posts up

 

[TheBeard]

Well you can't just make a claim and expect people to believe you with no evidence.

I don't expect you to believe anything

 

[Nigel Forester]

Superior results with dmso? So why aren't all bodybuilders just using dmso?

It’s not a simple answer why people do things a certain way when better alternatives exist. Why is there war?

 

[Jing]

Same answer as my previous comment two posts up

Sure...

 

[Jing]

I don't expect you to believe anything

Lol if you have a study or something that shows esters and bad then post it if not I will just assume you just believe they are bad not that you have seen any evidence. I would like to be proven wrong .

 

[Jing]

It’s not a simple answer why people do things a certain way when better alternatives exist. Why is there war?

Yh I get that, but I just don't think transdermal even with dmso will compare to injection.

 

[milkboi]

Yh I get that, but I just don't think transdermal even with dmso will compare to injection.

Look at @TheBeard s blood values on T in DMSO,, they definitely can compare.

 

[Jing]

Look at @TheBeard s blood values on T in DMSO,, they definitely can compare.

That's pretty good test level for using on the skin but with 525mg a week I would expect more than that level when I was taking 600mg of test enanthate a week my test level came back at 4700 injecting twice a week . Putting on twice a day would just get annoying aswell ..
It's just easier to get testosterone in oil aswell lol

 

[Nigel Forester]

Look at @TheBeard s blood values on T in DMSO,, they definitely can compare.

What is the dose and t level in blood? Don’t see it in thread

 

[cyclops]

Does anyone else have an informed opinion on whether or not around 1-3mgs of testosterone base per day will shut you down or just add to your own endogenous production? That is the information I was really hoping to gain.

Because then I would just need a pretty small amount and feel that its a relatively low risk experiment. Don't want to wind up in a position where I wind up worse off then before because I took too little and shut off my own production and now have less test or have negative feedback loops or something.

I think @tankasnowgod said that this small dose should work ok, but I'm really hoping to confirm that before jumping in. Just looking to hear from a few people here that this is an ok idea.

 

[Markus]

Does anyone else have an informed opinion on whether or not around 1-3mgs of testosterone base per day will shut you down or just add to your own endogenous production? That is the information I was really hoping to gain.

Because then I would just need a pretty small amount and feel that its a relatively low risk experiment. Don't want to wind up in a position where I wind up worse off then before because I took too little and shut off my own production and now have less test or have negative feedback loops or something.

I think @tankasnowgod said that this small dose should work ok, but I'm really hoping to confirm that before jumping in. Just looking to hear from a few people here that this is an ok idea.

From my own experience, taking Testogel, which contains about 5 mg of bioavailable testosterone, a few times a week doesn't seem to shut down my endogenous production.

 

[TheBeard]

Does anyone else have an informed opinion on whether or not around 1-3mgs of testosterone base per day will shut you down or just add to your own endogenous production? That is the information I was really hoping to gain.

Because then I would just need a pretty small amount and feel that its a relatively low risk experiment. Don't want to wind up in a position where I wind up worse off then before because I took too little and shut off my own production and now have less test or have negative feedback loops or something.

I think @tankasnowgod said that this small dose should work ok, but I'm really hoping to confirm that before jumping in. Just looking to hear from a few people here that this is an ok idea.

Testosterone, and even more so with no ester attached, has very little chance to cause permanent shutdown at any dose.
If you realized you don't like it and want to stop, you would bounce back with no PCT to where you previously were in a few weeks.
If your experiment had only been days, you would bounce back the next day.
Unlike 19 nor derivatives where the shutdown is harsh and lengthy to recover from.

 

[cyclops]

From my own experience, taking Testogel, which contains about 5 mg of bioavailable testosterone, a few times a week doesn't seem to shut down my endogenous production.

Cool thanks.

Testosterone, and even more so with no ester attached, has very little chance to cause permanent shutdown at any dose.
If you realized you don't like it and want to stop, you would bounce back with no PCT to where you previously were in a few weeks.
If your experiment had only been days, you would bounce back the next day.
Unlike 19 nor derivatives where the shutdown is harsh and lengthy to recover from.

Oh ok, so if I'm understanding you correctly you think that I will get shutdown no matter what though. I hear you that you think it will be no big deal because I can recover very easily compared to most other things, but I was hoping that I could just add maybe 1mg of test a day or maybe twice a day and add it to my own production.. but you dont think that is the case?

For example, if I was naturally making 6mg of testosterone per day, and I add 2mg test base I was hoping to now have 8mgs. What you said kind of concerns me because I dont want to add 2mg exogenously and then my body stops producing test, so now I only have 2mgs test in my body per day when I used to have 6mgs.

 

[TheBeard]

Cool thanks.



Oh ok, so if I'm understanding you correctly you think that I will get shutdown no matter what though. I hear you that you think it will be no big deal because I can recover very easily compared to most other things, but I was hoping that I could just add maybe 1mg of test a day or maybe twice a day and add it to my own production.. but you dont think that is the case?

For example, if I was naturally making 6mg of testosterone per day, and I add 2mg test base I was hoping to now have 8mgs. What you said kind of concerns me because I dont want to add 2mg exogenously and then my body stops producing test, so now I only have 2mgs test in my body per day when I used to have 6mgs.

No idea about such a low dose

 

[Nigel Forester]

Cool thanks.



Oh ok, so if I'm understanding you correctly you think that I will get shutdown no matter what though. I hear you that you think it will be no big deal because I can recover very easily compared to most other things, but I was hoping that I could just add maybe 1mg of test a day or maybe twice a day and add it to my own production.. but you dont think that is the case?

For example, if I was naturally making 6mg of testosterone per day, and I add 2mg test base I was hoping to now have 8mgs. What you said kind of concerns me because I dont want to add 2mg exogenously and then my body stops producing test, so now I only have 2mgs test in my body per day when I used to have 6mgs.

Are you taking pregnenolone with it or just test? When I took 10mg test a day I noticed little gonad shrinkage compared to total shrinkage to peasize on 5x the dose.