bruschi11
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Hello all,
I am 28 years old in a pretty difficult spot right now that I am ready to attack. Luckily, or maybe unluckily, I have several years of bloodwork, a lot of knowledge on the adrenal system, and have successfully treated low cortisol issues in times past.
I've had issues with low cortisol issues in the past 3 years. First an HC run for 6 months and taper returned them to form. 3 months later, I lost cortisol again we believe due to not having enough testosterone to deal with stress. This would lead to body producing too much cortisol and eventually running out.
That said, I started on the allthingsmale forum and used Chilln's recipe for treating low cortisol with pregnenolone/t3 back in May. It worked amazing at first, but it was blatantly obvious I needed some sort of Testosterone booster which was clomid at the time. Clomid's effects wear off on me after 2 months or so- I started TRT with gel in July and by August I was feeling great.
Come October, I was fine, but not 100%. Was dealing with a little bit of anxiety. Something was off. Probably something to do with t3, too much preg etc. I also got bloods back showing DHT at 125 on a range of 15-75 while experiencing major hair loss.
Like an uneducated ugh, I don't even know what to call myself, I was educated and heard of the horror stories.
I told myself- in 2013 bloodwork (yes it goes back that far) you were healthy and ideal with T in 800 range and DHT in the 20s. Finasteride will get your DHT down so you can be like that again. What an idiot.
Several people convinced me that as long as I keep my hormone therapy- cortisol levels and t therapy on par, I should have no issue with finasteride besides the lower DHT and less libido. I was fine with that because I was raging with libido at unnatural levels. I thought anxiety may have been from having DHT elevated now for 4 months.
I began fin on Oct 31st, and at first I loved it. I felt more athletic, less anxiety, a ton of energy, could handle weekends of drinking and workouts like a champ. Within 2 weeks I started crashing with low cortisol again. I believe I was feeling so good before because cortisol was high. Right when the crashes happened, I knew it was time to quit immediately. Couldn't risk it anymore- this is November 15th now and I thought no way 2 weeks of this drug is going to hurt you long term.
It took a few weeks to get my cortisol dosing down again and by the weekend of December 5th I thought I was back to normal life. T therapy felt the same again, preg/t3 seemed to be working great. Then I had a long day on a Saturday out with friends didn't get home till 1am- had a similar low cortisol crash that I used to experience that Sunday night- Monday. Didn't think it was a big deal, upped t3 because usually it helps the crashes and it did at this point.
As week went on, I started having more crashes and poor sleep- very high cortisol levels as days go on with systolic blood pressure in the 140-150 range. Beforehand, I was keeping systolic in the 120- 130 range maintaining cortisol.
Last Thursday, I used way too much testosterone one day thinking I could help myself, but it led to ED/ poor libido and a horrible crash that night and the realization that I was in a post-fin case. It became painfully obvious that my T cream doses have "lengthened" where the peak used to be 1 hour or so- now they are about 2.5 hours. I was told by someone knowledgeable on the situation that this is what happens with Fin whether you have the bad syndrome or not.
Since last Thursday night, libido has been fine except for times when I went into very high cortisol, panic attack, anxiety states. I had been dosing pregnenolone very high literally between 150mg to 450mg of MLM daily. I believe the preg was killing gaba along with Fin syndrome killing GABA causing me to get into these high cortisol, high blood pressure then anxiety panic attacks follow.
Will also add that 3 years ago I had a neurotransmitter test showing GABA levels in the bottom 15% of population. I figure that low GABA may have been reason for the adrenal fatigue/low cortisol issues in the first place.
I learned on this site last night that too much preg kills GABA. I am so thankful for that knowledge as it seems the several aminos and supps for gaba support already seem to be helping. I'm just looking for support and some knowledge to help me here in this situation. I know I'm probably lucky compared to most with this Fin syndrome in terms of libido, but I can tell you that my adrenal system is definitely a bit messed up right now.
I like what I see with 5a-DHP. I have already ordered and believe it may be a big part of my healing.
Any advice and support would be great right now. I am looking at this battle with confidence, but I am still in a pretty fragile state knowing that I put that stuff in my body after all I had been through the past 3 years.
I am 28 years old in a pretty difficult spot right now that I am ready to attack. Luckily, or maybe unluckily, I have several years of bloodwork, a lot of knowledge on the adrenal system, and have successfully treated low cortisol issues in times past.
I've had issues with low cortisol issues in the past 3 years. First an HC run for 6 months and taper returned them to form. 3 months later, I lost cortisol again we believe due to not having enough testosterone to deal with stress. This would lead to body producing too much cortisol and eventually running out.
That said, I started on the allthingsmale forum and used Chilln's recipe for treating low cortisol with pregnenolone/t3 back in May. It worked amazing at first, but it was blatantly obvious I needed some sort of Testosterone booster which was clomid at the time. Clomid's effects wear off on me after 2 months or so- I started TRT with gel in July and by August I was feeling great.
Come October, I was fine, but not 100%. Was dealing with a little bit of anxiety. Something was off. Probably something to do with t3, too much preg etc. I also got bloods back showing DHT at 125 on a range of 15-75 while experiencing major hair loss.
Like an uneducated ugh, I don't even know what to call myself, I was educated and heard of the horror stories.
I told myself- in 2013 bloodwork (yes it goes back that far) you were healthy and ideal with T in 800 range and DHT in the 20s. Finasteride will get your DHT down so you can be like that again. What an idiot.
Several people convinced me that as long as I keep my hormone therapy- cortisol levels and t therapy on par, I should have no issue with finasteride besides the lower DHT and less libido. I was fine with that because I was raging with libido at unnatural levels. I thought anxiety may have been from having DHT elevated now for 4 months.
I began fin on Oct 31st, and at first I loved it. I felt more athletic, less anxiety, a ton of energy, could handle weekends of drinking and workouts like a champ. Within 2 weeks I started crashing with low cortisol again. I believe I was feeling so good before because cortisol was high. Right when the crashes happened, I knew it was time to quit immediately. Couldn't risk it anymore- this is November 15th now and I thought no way 2 weeks of this drug is going to hurt you long term.
It took a few weeks to get my cortisol dosing down again and by the weekend of December 5th I thought I was back to normal life. T therapy felt the same again, preg/t3 seemed to be working great. Then I had a long day on a Saturday out with friends didn't get home till 1am- had a similar low cortisol crash that I used to experience that Sunday night- Monday. Didn't think it was a big deal, upped t3 because usually it helps the crashes and it did at this point.
As week went on, I started having more crashes and poor sleep- very high cortisol levels as days go on with systolic blood pressure in the 140-150 range. Beforehand, I was keeping systolic in the 120- 130 range maintaining cortisol.
Last Thursday, I used way too much testosterone one day thinking I could help myself, but it led to ED/ poor libido and a horrible crash that night and the realization that I was in a post-fin case. It became painfully obvious that my T cream doses have "lengthened" where the peak used to be 1 hour or so- now they are about 2.5 hours. I was told by someone knowledgeable on the situation that this is what happens with Fin whether you have the bad syndrome or not.
Since last Thursday night, libido has been fine except for times when I went into very high cortisol, panic attack, anxiety states. I had been dosing pregnenolone very high literally between 150mg to 450mg of MLM daily. I believe the preg was killing gaba along with Fin syndrome killing GABA causing me to get into these high cortisol, high blood pressure then anxiety panic attacks follow.
Will also add that 3 years ago I had a neurotransmitter test showing GABA levels in the bottom 15% of population. I figure that low GABA may have been reason for the adrenal fatigue/low cortisol issues in the first place.
I learned on this site last night that too much preg kills GABA. I am so thankful for that knowledge as it seems the several aminos and supps for gaba support already seem to be helping. I'm just looking for support and some knowledge to help me here in this situation. I know I'm probably lucky compared to most with this Fin syndrome in terms of libido, but I can tell you that my adrenal system is definitely a bit messed up right now.
I like what I see with 5a-DHP. I have already ordered and believe it may be a big part of my healing.
Any advice and support would be great right now. I am looking at this battle with confidence, but I am still in a pretty fragile state knowing that I put that stuff in my body after all I had been through the past 3 years.
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