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@Iron Man , both products absolutely work for me... The trib has to be high protoscion but the pine pollen was like a hidden gem... 3 tblespoons before bed has a very good affect... I recommend both for natural stuff... not necessarily PCT but general health.
In my opinion, with my past, nothing over the counter can really equate to the power of prescription pharmaceuticals with some very very minor exceptions... although I whole heartedly believe in Idealabs products, I wouldn't think estroban to be strong enough against test injections... I DO believe Estroban could be helpful if you wanted to lower estrogen in a natural way, say to just have more free test than the guy next to you at the gym... but I fight fire with fire... so I go strong with aromatase inhibitor , if in this position...
In my future, I plan on an estroban plus natural test stack similar to what I described above for sure... just not in this scenario if dealing with prescription level of estrogen rebound...