DaveFoster
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I'd say it's better to overeat calories in the form of dairy fat than to undereat on a low-fat diet. Undereating is absolutely destructive.
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Yep.No point. What's the alternative??
I'd say it's better to overeat calories in the form of dairy fat than to undereat on a low-fat diet. Undereating is absolutely destructive.
Ray Peat said that? In those words? Do you have a reference for that, please? :pHE SAID IT (a million times)....keep yer guts clean ladies.
Thanks for this timely reminder, Peatowski. I've been slacking on the carrot salad due to other things but will recommence with it tomorrow.Eating raw carrots can prevent the absorption of estrogen from the intestine, allowing the liver to more effectively regulate metabolism.”
“Things that protect the bowel, such as raw carrots, have far-reaching effects on hormones and immunity.”
@KellyP, I totally agree with this. However, I hafta ask...are you coming off a lot of processed food and PUFA? If so, just beware you might get some extra sides with progesterone. I couldn't tolerate it until recently, now that my liver is apparently in pretty good shape due to PUFA depletion and VLF. Of course, people like Peatowski and @PakPik got good results from it even when they were still fairly "toxic"...I'm just chiming in with this as a FYI and something to maybe look out for, NOT to scare you off progesterone. We're all different, and it could be that I'm just a pansy and can't tolerate the same level of discomfort as those other ladies. But now that I can finally use progesterone, it's my new best friend. It's reduced bloating, irritability, and I've actually gotten high/euphoric from it a few times. Come to find out it has some of the same actions in the bod as benzos. Doesn't last long, but it gives me the same half-witted smile on my face that abusing my valium prescription used to give me, back in the day. And it's good for me!You could try boatloads of progesterone, honey, salt, OJ, B vitamins, magnesium and lots of milk PRONTO!!!
people like Peatowski and @PakPik got good results from it even when they were still fairly "toxic"...I
How were you feeling/what were your stats when you started the LF protocol?
This. See, my guts love starch now where they didn't used to, but my brain maybe does not share the same affection....at least that's one of Dumbelina's Many Theories.
Not necessarily in my case. I didn't lose my weight by "Peating" like @thebigpeatowski did. How I got started losing and how I realized I actually didn't have to be fat any more and could finally do something about it was more serendipity in in the beginning than an actual plan. I developed a plan pretty quickly when I realized how my metabolsim had "shifted" thanks to the non-weightloss supplement strategy I was applying, but I didn't start out by saying "I'm going to lose weight." I had almost given up that idea.I tend to think that getting rid of all your fat while also avoiding a stress response was how you healed your metabolism. Is that what you think?
No, I mean it's never better to undereat unless you can't due to stress-induced appetite suppression. There may be a few situations I can't think of, such as illness.Obviously you aren't a fat middle-aged "diabetic" woman. Peat says to keep fat to a minimum if a person is overweight and that it's actually better to get calories from carbs in this situation.
So when you're dieting and you got the munchies this is your stand-in for chips-n-dip, IT TAKES A BIT OF TIME FOR THE WATER TO DRAIN AND FLAVORS TO MELD, SO MAKE AHEAD IF YOU CAN!!!
Need something crunchy AND creamy??? Tzatziki Sauce to the rescue! OMG, I LOVE Tzatziki sauce and it goes great on EVERYTHING! Lamb, fish, chicken...slather this NO FAT sauce on EVERYTHING.
I like it on sliced radishes and carrots, pretend you're eating chips and dip, LOL. Simply DELISH on baked/poached white fish!!!
2 cups 0% Fage
1 large Hothouse or English Cucumber (or 2 medium cukes), peeled and seeded
1 TBS. (and an extra 1/2 tsp. if needed) Salt
1/4 tsp. Fresh Ground Black Pepper
Juice from one Freshly Squeezed Lemon
2 Garlic Cloves, Finely Minced or put through garlic press
2 tsp. Minced Fresh Dill Weed (no stalks)
*TIPS* It's best to peel and cut cukes lengthwise then scrape out seeds(not necessary with English cukes). If you have a food processor then grate the cukes, otherwise manually grate or dice. Place grated cukes in a sieve, TOSS with the 1 TBS. salt and place over a bowl in the fridge. Cucumbers have a lot of the water, salting and resting over a bowl in the fridge for at least one to two hours removes the extra water to avoid the sauce becoming too runny and thin.
After an hour or two, pour out cucumber liquid and wipe bowl dry with a paper towel. Put yogurt in bowl. Squeeze as much liquid from the cukes as you can; pat dry lightly in a couple of pieces of paper towel to remove more liquid; add to bowl and whisk in lemon juice, minced garlic, dill, 1/2 tsp. salt, and pepper. Mix together well. This can be served immediately; however, it is BEST served after having chilled well and allowing a few hours for the flavors to blend.
I was feeling like sh*t when I started the LF protocol, that's precisely WHY I did it. I was ******* miserable with wicked estrogen symptoms, gut issues, blood sugar issues and high blood pressure too. I only used "Peat" foods and I kept fat very very low, this was key for blood sugar and adding LOTS of fructose. When things got stressful I ate more food, went for a walk, drank progesterone....this is what I mean by mitigating things as you go, it's moment by moment.
If you haven't been calorie restricting then perhaps you are ready, but you absolutely cannot eat chips and guac. I'm thinking that combo would be the worst thing for your liver and pancreas.
Maybe just try the diet in a NON-CALORIE restricted format for now....just work on PUFA and starch removal, keep your calories up so you aren't tempted to binge on bad food.
EDITING TO ADD: You can make home made tzatziki sauce made with 100% fat free yogurt and eat cucumber chips...it's like Chips and Dip....recipe to follow.
@KellyP, just wanted to mention that how you take your temp matters very much.
No matter what method you use to take it, wherever you choose to put it :p , let the thermometer warm up before you try to get a reading. That's the primary thing to remember.
Seriously, the two methods typically used are axillary (armpit) and oral. Some people argue that anal is the most absolutely accurate but for obvious reasons almost nobody uses that.
I was on the fence about which method to use (oral or axillary, not the other one) for a long time, but decided I prefer axillary because the body's ability to keep the extremities warm is an important marker of a metabolic function, and the armpit is more like an extremity than under the tongue. Putting the thermometer in your mouth is more like putting it inside the bod near internal organs (and keeping those warm is the primary focus of the body in cases of low energy production).
You can do research and decide for yourself, o' course...that's just my $0.02. Maybe someone more knowledgeable will chime in.
Anyway, regardless of method, you must let the thermometer warm up for some minutes before taking a reading. This is true whether you have a manual thermometer or a digital and whether you use axillary or oral. Letting it warm up properly can mean the difference in reading of as much as 1.5 or 2 degrees!
So if you have a 9 second digital thermometer and have been getting temp readings from anywhere after leaving it in for 20 seconds or so, your temp readings are likely skewing low. If you haven't been letting your thermometer warm up your temps probably aren't as bad as you think.
What I do is leave my thermometer on my bedside table. When I first wake up, before I get out of bed, I grab it and stick it in one of my pits. Then I leave it there for a bout 10 minutes. I spend the 10 minutes quietly canoodling my cat and reading. Lately I've been reading Ray Peat articles during this time. After about 10 minutes I hit the button on the thermometer without taking it out of my armpit. That's all there is to it. Actually can be a much more pleasant way to start the day than jumping right out of bed and hassling around. If you can swing it, that is. With three kids it might not be doable, but putting it out there just in case.
If you choose axillary method, make sure you get the tip of the thermometer really up in there where no room temp air can get to it. Also keep your arm tightly glued to your side while you're waiting. It's not as much of a PITA as it sounds. :)