Has Peat Written About Trans-genderism ?

[x-ray peat]

This is going to seriously offend people

But I stumbled upon a video of a vegan man, I assume his whole family is also vegan

In the last bit of the video we get to see his teenage children, and I couldn't help but notice how......different they looked



Maybe I am delusional ?

I won't comment on their appearance except that they look gray and unhealthy like most vegans I know.

also Juicero has to be the stupidest waste of money and packaging ever

 

[x-ray peat]

What should a man look like ?
What should a woman look like ?
I honestly don't know anymore because of modern society, does anyone have old pictures of when people looked normal ?

Celebrities’ Civil War Look-Alikes

 

[PhilParma]

If I remember well, I think haidut talked about a "sex bomb", an anti-serotonin drug which turned the rats of the experiment into an orgy, they even wanted to mount cats and rats of the same sex.

TLDR; serotonin antagonism ==> ??? ==> butt sex ... #ReadingComprehensionSkillz #LogicalFlow

Call me homophobic, but what is the best place to buy 5-HTP in bulk?

 

[johnwester130]

I won't comment on their appearance except that they look gray and unhealthy like most vegans I know.

also Juicero has to be the stupidest waste of money and packaging ever

I am undecided if that juicer is absolutely pointless or quite good.

It may be the next big thing

 

[pimpnamedraypeat]

Problem with pictures like this is the guy in the White towel could be 4.5 ft tall and gay,the crocodile could be dead and the man holding it could be gay,the lady with the fan could be transgender and the last one,well the man is clearly 4ft tall and the lady is around 6ft,she could be transgender.

He looks more like 5'2" tall. No wonder he wears such a big hat. We might have gotten taller as a people but at what cost?

 

[x-ray peat]

I am undecided if that juicer is absolutely pointless or quite good.

It may be the next big thing

it could be both, pointless and the next big thing

 

[johnwester130]

does peat believe there are 58 genders ?

 

[Herbie]

That is typical "sluthater" logic. Or fallacy. Male models do not look like prebubescent boys. A sign of beauty is youth to the skin. You're not decaying yet, ergo it's beautiful. Most male models (even the "feminine pretty" ones) are "manlier" than average guys, stronger jaws, well defined bodies, tall. They've developed well through puberty and become men. Good looking, robustly developed people become models, it's as simple as that.

I wasn't clear enough. I was saying the high end FEMALE fashion models look like pre adolescent boys and its because the gay men run the industry and I don't like how heterosexual women are influenced by this.

I Personally don't like this because I like feminine women and I don't like how culture is de feminising women.

 

[mangoes]

I wasn't clear enough. I was saying the high end FEMALE fashion models look like pre adolescent boys and its because the gay men run the industry and I don't like how heterosexual women are influenced by this.

I Personally don't like this because I like feminine women and I don't like how culture is de feminising women.

Oh sorry, my mistake, I probably should have read it better. Sh!t that's actually interesting. My opinion is still that the most beautiful people are a mixture of both masculine and feminine features, with well developed faces.

But then I'm also a gay man so maybe my opinion is bias.

 

[ATP]

58 genders? Lol

 

[encerent]

What should a man look like ?

What should a woman look like ?

I honestly don't know anymore because of modern society, does anyone have old pictures of when people looked normal ?

Here are two ideal faces

 

[mayweatherking]

i agree there is a hormonal aspect to it without a doubt. i have a personal theory that "caityln jenner" was on finasteride or duasteride and that is what made him/her want to transition. or at least enough of a push over the edge to want to do it. clearly he had some recession as he got older, there is no doubt he went on finasteride.

plus being an athlete who was deeply into running, you know his thyroid was not good

you could hear his voice, it was not very masculine and very deep. many people on the post finasteride forums have talked about becoming more feminine afterwards. there was one guy who claimed he went into full female mode after taking finasteride and did a transition. there was a thread of people talking about having gay impulses after taking it.

 

[Such_Saturation]

Here are two ideal faces

 

[Queequeg]

Maybe the parents doing those things will be the ones in trouble when this generation's insanity blows over, and not the parents resisting it. It seems like every generation has its own myth of how we'll transcend into a world where reality no longer applies.

Here are two ideal faces

Beautiful girl but for me I prefer softer features on my ladies. She looks like Viggo's sister funny enough.

 

[michael94]

Here are two ideal faces

one on left is not ideal female face imo, but thats what they go for in female modeling these days.

 

[Pointless]

Are masculine features really optimal? People have argued both sides from a Peat perspective here. What about neoteny? This Russian singer Vitas has very youthful features and a childlike voice.

 

[Pointless]

This is much more attractive to me than chiseled features. I googled recent pictures of Sarah hyland. At 26 years old her features are quite impressive, even with less makeup than she's shown wearing here.

 

[Demyze]

Are masculine features really optimal? People have argued both sides from a Peat perspective here. What about neoteny? This Russian singer Vitas has very youthful features and a childlike voice.

http://i5.tagstat.com/p1/p/iCxpts7LvxYHwR3NXyKCrpL8UCebKIZFnTJe3xLjFqQ=.jpg

"Miriam Diamond, for example, wrote a book showing that the stress changes the shape of the face and thins the cortex making rats look mean and stupid and actually being stupid, prenatal stress, but giving them extra sugar and progesterone to nourish the brain prenatally gave them a sort of baby face look like a puppy with a big head and a good disposition and higher intelligence." - Ray Peat, 'Your Own Health And Fitness: Heart, Brain, Cancer, And Hormones'

"development of the face, including the shape of the jaws and alignment of teeth, is promoted by normal nursing, and interfered with when the baby is fed from a bottle." Ray Peat, Nutrition for Women pages 68-69

"Montague has argued that we need more neoteny, that is, that we should try to preserve and to extend our youthful functions, because those are our most human qualities. If we can generalize from animal studies, delaying puberty could in-crease brain size and longevity, improve intelligence, decrease violence, and even make people physically more attractive (the "cute puppy" appearance is largely a matter of brain size in relation to the size of the face and body). I think this will be the next step in human evolution. Just as nurturing, stimulation, and freedom promote improvement in the function and structure of the brain, cruelty and oppression act in the opposite direction. If puberty is delayed, then the importance of a culture which supports curiosity, exploration, play and sensuous pleasure seems obvious, so that biology and culture will be mutually supportive." Ray Peat, Generative Energy pg 14

"Marion Diamond, who studied the effects of stimulation on rats' brain development, found that pregnancy or progesterone treatment--like freedom and stimulation--caused the brain to grow, and estrogen--like stress--caused it to shrink. The larger-brained animals had smaller faces, and the confined, stressed rats had smaller brains and bigger faces. (I see no reason to doubt that human proportions are similarly influenced by prenatal stress; Franz Boas, for example, found that immigrants' childrens' head shapes were similar to head shapes in the new country, and unlike their parents.') These changes are similar to the differences between small-faced ba-bies and large-faced adults. The observation that the babies of one species resemble the adults of a more highly evolved spe-cies has led to the idea of evolution through neoteny (or pae-domorphism or juvenilization), in which juvenile traits are preserved for a longer time in the offspring, and eventually persist even after reproductive maturity is reached. * The same terms are sometimes used in describing plants, as well as animals.

Some feminists have objected to the characterization of female traits as "paedomorphic," considering it as another at-tempt to deny women equal social status with men. It was common for Ashley Montague's book, Natural Superiority of 121
Women, to be condemned by "feminists" as "patronizing." Nevertheless, I think it is a mistake to argue for a kind of biological relativism (analogous to cultural relativism) which avoids the idea of a possible evolutionary significance in certain biological features." Ray Peat, Generative Energy pg 121

Some interesting quotes...

 

[Mountain]

That is typical "sluthater" logic. Or fallacy. Male models do not look like prebubescent boys. A sign of beauty is youth to the skin. You're not decaying yet, ergo it's beautiful. Most male models (even the "feminine pretty" ones) are "manlier" than average guys, stronger jaws, well defined bodies, tall. They've developed well through puberty and become men. Good looking, robustly developed people become models, it's as simple as that.



More fallacy. "Normal" is relative. Intersex people have spanned back throughout the entire homosapien existence. The problems have arisen because modern society has created the "ideals" of "masculine, alpha" men and "feminine" women when the truth of the matter is, is that most people don't fit into a box of "alpha masculine" or super feminine.

As for transgenderism and sexuality, gender cannot be reduced to one hormonal, or genetic or even biological cause. That's not to say hormones or whatever can't have an effect, but case in point is someone with an XXY set of chromosomes. They can choose to live as either male or female. If it was based purely on biology, every person with the same condition would choose the same gender. The transgender woman in the above video was about to make a similar point before being provoked and then penalised by people who watch it, for rightfully getting angry.

I've noticed that the people with problems against transgender people are generally the repressed, depressed "alpha male" wanna be types who frequent sites like sluthate (which might I add is full of transgender porn. Hmm).

I'm surprised that in a forum which is dedicated to a man who seems to eschew every kind of dogma, lately is full of people who buy into dogma, and are unable to really formulate a thought of their own, simply regurgitating their esteemed "red pill" knowledge. I'm not surprised that any resident transgender person on this forum wouldn't want to participate in this thread.

Your post is insane.

The fact that intersex people have supposedly spanned back through history isn't really the point. The point is that environmental and cultural pollution (read: tumblr, MSM, basically everything) has seemingly lead to an increase in biological malfunctions (chromosomal sex defects, hormonal changes, mental illness, mental illness fetishes).

Society hasn't developed the ideals of masculinity and femininity, evolution did. The further you are from the masculine/feminine ideal, the worse you will be at hunting/familial defense/caring/etc. Leading to my point about pair bonding. Female and masculine traits appear complementary because they are. 'Sluthating' will never disappear because it makes sense to shame sluts. Human babies are born into complete dependence on their parents. In order to give your lineage the best chance of survival in the best state it can be, you need a complementary pair bonded male and female couple.

I like that you try to say that people who believe this have swallowed some wholesale philosophy from somebody else. The only problem with saying that is that a very liberal philosophy hedged on the ol' adage of 'WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?!' is THE easiest viewpoint to have. No thought whatsoever is required to take this stance -- you don't have to worry about the reality of human nature.

 

[Such_Saturation]