Random Questions I've had for Peat which I cant find answers to

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These are random questions I've had for mr. Peat... he generally answers most questions you send him unless he is busy or there are too many questions

I'm wondering if Peat has kids and grandkids, and if not, why he decided not to have kids?
Does mr. Peat think watching porn has significant side effects? I know theres a quote where he said he doesnt think masturbation would have different effects than sex on hormones but im curious on his thoughts on pornography specifically, and if he ever or regularly watches porn! He told me that even thinking about and anticipating sex causes the whiskers to grow faster and increases testosterone. He said its possible in a stressed organism the testosterone could go towards estrogen!
What caused mr. Peats missing teeth, graying hair, and need for eyeglasses? I know these are common in the typical person as they age but shouldn't a faster metabolism reduce the occurrence of these, and shouldn't a fast metabolism be able to actually regrow missing teeth, regrow/repigment thinning/gray hairs, and cure any vision, taste, smell, and hearing issues?
rays thoughts on supplementing beta alanine and creatine?
How tall is mr Peat and can a faster metabolism boost height and the size of organs and glands even in adulthood?
thoughts on himalayan pink salt compared to other salts?
thoughts on things like lanosterol and squalene being that these are precursors to cholesterol and pregnenolone, and that these can be obtained in safer ways than pregnenolone supplements?
thoughts on olive leaf extracts, oleupurein?
is it good to be chewing on a chewing stick or gum for several hours every day or other day and which gum does mr Peat use, does he get mastic gum/chewing sticks from somewhere?
does the level of your metabolism change your sexual orientation or the types of men/women you find attractive?
raw vs pasteurized milk?
how can the Masai see from a mile away?
A2 milk, and jersey milk vs guernsey vs holstein milk?
is there truth to the idea of vampires or of the rich elite consuming the blood of younger humans/animals to rejuvenate themselves, improve their health and lifespan?
thoughts on coconut water?
wouldnt supplementing taurine create an excess of cysteine ; the amino acid normally used by the body to synthesize taurine
wouldnt supplementing creatine create an excess of methionine, arginine, choline, and glycine; since those are normally used to synthesize it.
apple cider vinegar?
how to lose weight gained from abusing iodine and pregnenolone and other supplements?
using large amounts of iodide?
 
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These are random questions I've had for mr. Peat... he generally answers most questions you send him unless he is busy or there are too many questions

I'm wondering if Peat has kids and grandkids, and if not, why he decided not to have kids?
Does mr. Peat think watching porn has significant side effects? I know theres a quote where he said he doesnt think masturbation would have different effects than sex on hormones but im curious on his thoughts on pornography specifically, and if he ever or regularly watches porn! He told me that even thinking about and anticipating sex causes the whiskers to grow faster and increases testosterone. He said its possible in a stressed organism the testosterone could go towards estrogen!
What caused mr. Peats missing teeth, graying hair, and need for eyeglasses? I know these are common in the typical person as they age but shouldn't a faster metabolism reduce the occurrence of these, and shouldn't a fast metabolism be able to actually regrow missing teeth, regrow/repigment thinning/gray hairs, and cure any vision, taste, smell, and hearing issues?
rays thoughts on supplementing beta alanine and creatine?
How tall is mr Peat and can a faster metabolism boost height and the size of organs and glands even in adulthood?
thoughts on himalayan pink salt compared to other salts?
thoughts on things like lanosterol and squalene being that these are precursors to cholesterol and pregnenolone, and that these can be obtained in safer ways than pregnenolone supplements?
thoughts on olive leaf extracts, oleupurein?
is it good to be chewing on a chewing stick or gum for several hours every day or other day and which gum does mr Peat use, does he get mastic gum/chewing sticks from somewhere?
does the level of your metabolism change your sexual orientation or the types of men/women you find attractive?
raw vs pasteurized milk?
how can the Masai see from a mile away?
A2 milk, and jersey milk vs guernsey vs holstein milk?
is there truth to the idea of vampires or of the rich elite consuming the blood of younger humans/animals to rejuvenate themselves, improve their health and lifespan?
thoughts on coconut water?
wouldnt supplementing taurine create an excess of cysteine ; the amino acid normally used by the body to synthesize taurine
wouldnt supplementing creatine create an excess of methionine, arginine, choline, and glycine; since those are normally used to synthesize it.
apple cider vinegar?
how to lose weight gained from abusing iodine and pregnenolone and other supplements?
using large amounts of iodide?
I can answer his teeth, he said he rotted them out in the 60's or 70's experimenting with large amounts of wheat germ. He also said he had mouth cancer, I imagine from the wheat germ, that he cured himself. Geeze my dad was on a wheat germ kick back then too. I am so glad we got away from that. It is tasty though!
 

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These are random questions I've had for mr. Peat... he generally answers most questions you send him unless he is busy or there are too many questions

I'm wondering if Peat has kids and grandkids, and if not, why he decided not to have kids?
He answered with "No" in an interview. Unfortunately there was no follow up question. I would like to know too. Peat has said he recognized early on that we are living an authoritarian regime, so I can only imagine that he would not be comfortable putting children into a system like this.

What caused mr. Peats missing teeth, graying hair, and need for eyeglasses? I know these are common in the typical person as they age but shouldn't a faster metabolism reduce the occurrence of these, and shouldn't a fast metabolism be able to actually regrow missing teeth, regrow/repigment thinning/gray hairs, and cure any vision, taste, smell, and hearing issues?
I think he needed glasses ever since he was a child. Aging Eyes, Infant Eyes, and Excitable Tissues
He lost his teeth when he was experimenting with affordable diets. He was eating mainly wheat germ, high phosphate low calcium. Afterwards he understood the importance of eating enough calcium.

How tall is mr Peat and can a faster metabolism boost height and the size of organs and glands even in adulthood?
Takind DHEA made him grow some inches in his forties. It also made his wisdom teeth fully erupt.


thoughts on himalayan pink salt compared to other salts?
It has a lot of heavy metals. He likes the purer ones more (pickling salt).

raw vs pasteurized milk?
He says raw milk is good when you know the animal and the person knows how to milk it right. I think he ordered a bowl of milk in india(?) once and it had feces floating in it. Pasteurized milk oxidizes some of the vitamins.




This search engine is very useful. Ray Peat Search It scans many of his interviews.
 
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He answered with "No" in an interview. Unfortunately there was no follow up question. I would like to know too. Peat has said he recognized early on that we are living an authoritarian regime, so I can only imagine that he would not be comfortable putting children into a system like this.


I think he needed glasses ever since he was a child. Aging Eyes, Infant Eyes, and Excitable Tissues
He lost his teeth when he was experimenting with affordable diets. He was eating mainly wheat germ, high phosphate low calcium. Afterwards he understood the importance of eating enough calcium.


Takind DHEA made him grow some inches in his forties. It also made his wisdom teeth fully erupt.



It has a lot of heavy metals. He likes the purer ones more (pickling salt).


He says raw milk is good when you know the animal and the person knows how to milk it right. I think he ordered a bowl of milk in india(?) once and it had feces floating in it. Pasteurized milk oxidizes some of the vitamins.




This search engine is very useful. Ray Peat Search It scans many of his interviews.

ah thanks for the info. Is Peat married? I think someone on here said hes been married many years.
However, i cant say how reliable that is... someone on here posted about how its important not to get too strict with diet, that even Peat eats PUFA fried chicken every week... i emailed Peat and he said theres insane people online and that he hasnt eaten in any restaurant since 1989 or something

ah yeah ive seen the DHEA stuff. technically that means anything that improves the hormonal profile and causes you to increase the dhea to cortisol ratio should allow height growth even without supplementing dhea?

does he have any thoughts on eating bones and bone marrow, like from new zealand grass fed animals. someone said bones can have lots of heavy metals.

thats gross

given his metabolism isnt it possible to improve vision and make the hair darken? his hair looks good, but it is dark gray!
 

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ah thanks for the info. Is Peat married? I think someone on here said hes been married many years.

View: https://youtu.be/UDRBM-8cYSo?t=4246

Not married, but I think he has the same girlfriend for many decades. He said that in a fairly recent interview, but I can't find it.

He repigmented his hair succesfully with copper dissolved in aspirin. But using too much caused moles to grow, so he stopped. He said a safer way to keep haircolour would be to eat a lot of oysters. I don't know why his hair is grey though, maybe he doesn't want to eat too many oysters because of the iron. I would like to know what he would say about it, too.

From Generative Energy:

I had some eyebrow hairs that were pure white; when one matured and fell out, another white one would replace it. They grow quickly, and have a short life cycle, so they are nice to experiment with.

I went on a very low iron diet, eating mostly milk, with some eggs, cheese, and citrus fruit, but with very little meat for several weeks. I cooked eggs in a copper pan, to increase my copper intake and to avoid iron absorbed from an iron pan. I found a source of vitamin A without preservative, and began using large amounts of that, which I had not done for several years because of an allergy to the preservative. I in-creased my doses of DHEA and pregnenolone.

Usually on alternate days, I would rub vitamin A and vitamin E (sometimes with DHEA), or a solution of copper acetate, into the skin around the white hairs. Within a few weeks, the bottom of one of the white hairs had begun to darken (Figure 1--the hair on the right). Another hair (the center one) came out a couple of weeks later, and was dark-ened along about half of its length. The third hair (on the left) came out two or three weeks later, and was all black except for 3 millimeters at the tip, which had begun growing about the time the other two were changing color. It has been about two months since I stopped cooking regularly in copper (the taste gets very tiresome), and none of the hairs has reverted to white. (The black lines were about 2 mm. apart; they allow both colors to be seen in the xerox copy.) The fine tops of the hairs end at lines 8, 9, and 7, going from left to right; each hair has a few mm. of intermediate light brown, which doesn't reproduce well.
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After I found that a copper solution quickly caused my white eyebrows to return to their normal color, and repeated the experiment several times over about 3 years, I tried the same solution on my sideburns, and saw that some of those hairs had darkened after one application. It wasn't convenient to observe those hairs, so I decided to apply the solution to some white whiskers on my chin. After two or three applications, I carelessly used a solution that was too strong. Within less than a minute I felt it stinging, and washed it off. A stinging sensation was noticeable during the next 2 or 3 hours, and I washed the spot thoroughly several times. About 4 hours later it was still a little uncomfortable, and when I looked at it in a mirror I was horrified to see what appeared to be a large, coffee-colored mole on my chin, in the area where I had applied the copper, and where the burning sensation persisted. The edges were slightly raised about the surrounding skin, and it looked like a normal light brown mole, roughly the size of a nickel. It was so hard for me to believe that such an anatomical change could have occurred within 4 hours that I wondered if I had just failed to observe something that had been developing gradually. But after about a week it had disappeared, and no trace of it has returned, so I had to conclude that the high concentration of copper had acted with, or in place of, tyrosinase to form new pigment,or that copper-hungry cells had invaded the area.
 
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View: https://youtu.be/UDRBM-8cYSo?t=4246

Not married, but I think he has the same girlfriend for many decades. He said that in a fairly recent interview, but I can't find it.

He repigmented his hair succesfully with copper dissolved in aspirin. But using too much caused moles to grow, so he stopped. He said a safer way to keep haircolour would be to eat a lot of oysters. I don't know why his hair is grey though, maybe he doesn't want to eat too many oysters because of the iron. I would like to know what he would say about it, too.


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i developed a small mole on my pinky toe just from orally supplementing copper and it went away after a month or so of stopping the copper supplements. oh interesting, i thought he was married for some reason.

interesting oysters help cuz arent they pretty low in copper? i remember looking up oysters on whole foods where they had a full nutrition panel listed and it was like 4.5mg zinc, 4.5mg iron, and like 0.2mg copper per serving or something!
 
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i developed a small mole on my pinky toe just from orally supplementing copper and it went away after a month or so of stopping the copper supplements. oh interesting, i thought he was married for some reason.

interesting oysters help cuz arent they pretty low in copper? i remember looking up oysters on whole foods where they had a full nutrition panel listed and it was like 4.5mg zinc, 4.5mg iron, and like 0.2mg copper per serving or something!
The problem is that the zinc in oysters cancel out any copper it has and is why liver is necessary.
 
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He answered with "No" in an interview. Unfortunately there was no follow up question. I would like to know too. Peat has said he recognized early on that we are living an authoritarian regime, so I can only imagine that he would not be comfortable putting children into a system like this.


I think he needed glasses ever since he was a child. Aging Eyes, Infant Eyes, and Excitable Tissues
He lost his teeth when he was experimenting with affordable diets. He was eating mainly wheat germ, high phosphate low calcium. Afterwards he understood the importance of eating enough calcium.


Takind DHEA made him grow some inches in his forties. It also made his wisdom teeth fully erupt.



It has a lot of heavy metals. He likes the purer ones more (pickling salt).


He says raw milk is good when you know the animal and the person knows how to milk it right. I think he ordered a bowl of milk in india(?) once and it had feces floating in it. Pasteurized milk oxidizes some of the vitamins.




This search engine is very useful. Ray Peat Search It scans many of his interviews.

I got some answers from Ray on some random things.

"I had a friend who got an expensive “altitude tent”; it smelled so bad she couldn’t use it. I recently heard of a 15 year old boy who was using a creatine supplement, died of heart arrest. Bone meal was a popular supplement, until a published analysis showed very high lead content. Wire nets can provide EMF shielding if they are grounded."

"If someone had leprosy, scrofula, syphilis or unexplained granulomas and couldn’t get appropriate things such as penicillin, then a short trial of iodine wouldn’t be crazy. Medical use can’t be extrapolated to chronic large doses as a nutritional supplement. Have you seen the many studies of the hamful effects on the thyroid of regular iodide supplementation?"

"Used occasionally as a topical antiseptic, tincture of iodine is safe. Historically iodide has been used to treat a breast infection. That’s very different from the cult of daily use of large amounts of iodide, started by Guy Abraham." (he attached like 70 studies along with this comment)

The founder of the current iodine cult, Guy Abraham, was promoting iodine along with their radiation devices to protect against electromagnetic pollution. I couldn’t decide whether he really believed those things, or just used them to sell his product.

No, I have never recommended several milligram doses of iodide, and I have often pointed out the damage to the thyroid gland that even moderate iodide supplements can cause:

I have been hearing about some of the absurd recommendations that are being falsely associated with me, and I want to find reliable information about the person’s identity.

My computer doesn’t have a camera or microphone; I use a landline phone; the constant technological up-dates and innovations are doing more harm than good. Just thinking about, anticipating, sex increases testosterone, makes the whiskers grow faster; general good health keeps the increased testosterone from increasing estrogen and cortisol.

No. Occasionally, phobic ideas about nutrients circulate, including places like the raypeatforum, and milk phobia seems to be a chronic cultural problem.

Ordinarily, just thinking about, anticipating, sex increases testosterone and well being, but in a stressed hypothyroid person it’s possible that the testosterone produced by sexual arousal could be converted to estrogen.

It would be more helpful to read some physiology books instead of the internet. Almost everything there is exploitative, insane, stupid, or a blend of those.

There are lots of insane proposals on the internet, and that forum seems to be meeting its cuota.

I get it directly from farmers who don’t treat it, and then I skim it because I don’t want so much fat. Lactose promotes the absorption of calcium and probably other nutrients.

The organic milk I have had from various supermarkets, supposedly reliable brands, has often had an unpleasant taste and soured quickly, even when pasteurized, which I think indicates poor feeding and milking techniques. Sanitary milking practices and good feed—combined hay and pasture—produce clean milk with a good taste that doesn’t need pasteurization. I often heat the milk to speed separation of the cream.

I have averaged two quarts a day for a long time. The method of separating whey from casein determines how much calcium each has; neither by itself is as good.

I don’t eat, or recommend, that much protein. For years I drank a gallon per day. The calorie content of a gallon of whole milk is too much unless you are very active physically.

In the US, the incidence of cancer in young people is increasing; one of the factors is probably increased vaccinations.

The skin on the forehead is a poor indicator of core body temperature. Infrared radiation is safe.

asked about androsterone and 11 keto dht he said "
Not sufficient research to know of safety.

in response to me asking him I heard he used DHT in the last year often and liked it a lot : "
Internet silliness.
I have tried it, and experienced an effect from it, but it isn’t something I use or recommend except for extreme situations such as terminal cancer.

No, I said the opposite, that the final steroids, especially cortisol, estrogen, and aldosterone can have toxic harmful effects, and that cholesterol, pregnenolone, and progesterone are safe. Squalene is very susceptible to oxidation, e.g., blackheads. The claims of the cosmetic industry are just as likely to be false as those of the drug industry.

about pregnenolone turning into cortisol:
No, it just doesn’t work that way. “Can turn into" has nothing to do with how the organism works. It’s best to assume that everything on the internet is wrong—they are repeated thousands of times, on “reputable” sites, but it isn’t possible to learn anything useful by studying the great trash heap of the internet.

Cholesterol is converted to protective hormones in proportion to thyroid function. Cholesterol is bound inside the blood vessels, liver, brain, and other organs as a defense against PUFA toxicity.
They cause tissue damage, and cells combine them with cholesterol (as esters) for protection, but those esters accumulate in all the tissues with aging, and stresses liberate them, causing prion diseases and other protein folding forms of degeneration.

Natural honey is liquid, but if it’s exposed to dry air for a long time it dehydrates and crystallizes; that doesn’t lower its quality.

Dark honey is more likely to be irritating. The value is mostly the concentrated sugar, but there are small amounts of antioxidant materials.

The traditional Maasai diet of iron-deficient milk was supplemented by a small amount of iron-rich blood. Most common diets already have excessive iron.


He had a funny response with this one where he was critical:

John Ioannidis’ article “Why most research findings are false” is worth reading. Things discussed on “forums” aren’t. Ordinary corporate advertising has been supplemented by the much more economical practice of hiring product reviewers to slander competing products, joining multiple forums with their "unhappy experiences."
Specific vitamin and mineral deficiencies were discovered among impoverished people living on foods that were just available sources of energy, and they are rare when people can buy the foods they want. Government agencies serve the industries that they should regulate, and shouldn’t be trusted as reliable sources of information.
In the case of my friend's kid who was dying from diarrhea, appropriate foods weren’t being given in the hospital, and the 10 mg of vitamin B6 obviously served the purpose without depleting anything.
Your sentences "progesterone can apparently convert to cortisol and aldosterone especially in stressed organisms. apparently people have gained weight and had issues with it” wouldn’t be acceptable even in an English composition class, unless “apparently” could be backed up in some way with evidence.


Progesterone is an antagonist to aldosterone and cortisol. Experiments have shown clearly that pure pregnenolone, like pure progesterone, lowers cortisol in stressed animals with high cortisol. The price of a supplement, and the claims of its vendor, don’t have anything to do with its quality. Pure pregnenolone just doesn’t cause hormonal effects such as you mention. I haven’t recommended pregnenolone use for several years, since I started hearing about reactions that could only be caused by major impurities.

For more than 50 years, in animals and people pregnenolone didn’t have those effects. When it became "a product," dozens of little companies, with no experience in steroid production, began making it.
Water and flour are precursors of bread, but they don’t by themselves turn into bread. Chemistry charts aren’t physiology charts.
Do you consider FDA statements to be based on facts? Where can I find out about the “FDA warning”? It should be assumed that anything on the internet is false.

They misquote me. The foods I recommend, such as milk, cheese, eggs and sea foods contain taurine.

Some people promote almost anything. The foods I recommend contain chromium.

The book link I sent describes the absence of science behind the claims of essentiality.

The book explains that the idea of chromium as an essential nutrient doesn’t have a clear basis in science; it has become a cult to promote the very lucrative industry.

The purity of individual amino acids on the market has been a real issue, so their theoretical benefits have to be considered in relation to what’s available.

They live at very low temperatures that prevent the rapid fat breakdown that occurs at our temperature, but sharks do get cancer—that was just a story to create a market.

I don’t recommend supplements generally, because foods can provide them, and the supplements are always contaminated to some extent in the manufacturing process. In extreme cases I have recommended a small dose of pyridoxine hydrochloride which worked immediately and very well.

People say anything to sell their product. It’s in a wide range of foods. I’ve given small supplements for a variety of problems. The first time was a 2 year old child that had diarrhea that the hospital couldn’t control, and after 3 or 4 days they said she was within a few hours of dying; it was only at that point that the father dared to give her the supplement, and the diarrhea stopped almost immediately. My suggestion, in 1962, was based on old research. It’s effective for many problems related to the distribution of salts and water.
 
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I got some answers from Ray on some random things.

"I had a friend who got an expensive “altitude tent”; it smelled so bad she couldn’t use it. I recently heard of a 15 year old boy who was using a creatine supplement, died of heart arrest. Bone meal was a popular supplement, until a published analysis showed very high lead content. Wire nets can provide EMF shielding if they are grounded."

"If someone had leprosy, scrofula, syphilis or unexplained granulomas and couldn’t get appropriate things such as penicillin, then a short trial of iodine wouldn’t be crazy. Medical use can’t be extrapolated to chronic large doses as a nutritional supplement. Have you seen the many studies of the hamful effects on the thyroid of regular iodide supplementation?"

"Used occasionally as a topical antiseptic, tincture of iodine is safe. Historically iodide has been used to treat a breast infection. That’s very different from the cult of daily use of large amounts of iodide, started by Guy Abraham." (he attached like 70 studies along with this comment)

The founder of the current iodine cult, Guy Abraham, was promoting iodine along with their radiation devices to protect against electromagnetic pollution. I couldn’t decide whether he really believed those things, or just used them to sell his product.

No, I have never recommended several milligram doses of iodide, and I have often pointed out the damage to the thyroid gland that even moderate iodide supplements can cause:

I have been hearing about some of the absurd recommendations that are being falsely associated with me, and I want to find reliable information about the person’s identity.

My computer doesn’t have a camera or microphone; I use a landline phone; the constant technological up-dates and innovations are doing more harm than good. Just thinking about, anticipating, sex increases testosterone, makes the whiskers grow faster; general good health keeps the increased testosterone from increasing estrogen and cortisol.

No. Occasionally, phobic ideas about nutrients circulate, including places like the raypeatforum, and milk phobia seems to be a chronic cultural problem.

Ordinarily, just thinking about, anticipating, sex increases testosterone and well being, but in a stressed hypothyroid person it’s possible that the testosterone produced by sexual arousal could be converted to estrogen.

It would be more helpful to read some physiology books instead of the internet. Almost everything there is exploitative, insane, stupid, or a blend of those.

There are lots of insane proposals on the internet, and that forum seems to be meeting its cuota.

I get it directly from farmers who don’t treat it, and then I skim it because I don’t want so much fat. Lactose promotes the absorption of calcium and probably other nutrients.

The organic milk I have had from various supermarkets, supposedly reliable brands, has often had an unpleasant taste and soured quickly, even when pasteurized, which I think indicates poor feeding and milking techniques. Sanitary milking practices and good feed—combined hay and pasture—produce clean milk with a good taste that doesn’t need pasteurization. I often heat the milk to speed separation of the cream.

I have averaged two quarts a day for a long time. The method of separating whey from casein determines how much calcium each has; neither by itself is as good.

I don’t eat, or recommend, that much protein. For years I drank a gallon per day. The calorie content of a gallon of whole milk is too much unless you are very active physically.

In the US, the incidence of cancer in young people is increasing; one of the factors is probably increased vaccinations.

The skin on the forehead is a poor indicator of core body temperature. Infrared radiation is safe.

asked about androsterone and 11 keto dht he said "
Not sufficient research to know of safety.

in response to me asking him I heard he used DHT in the last year often and liked it a lot : "
Internet silliness.
I have tried it, and experienced an effect from it, but it isn’t something I use or recommend except for extreme situations such as terminal cancer.

No, I said the opposite, that the final steroids, especially cortisol, estrogen, and aldosterone can have toxic harmful effects, and that cholesterol, pregnenolone, and progesterone are safe. Squalene is very susceptible to oxidation, e.g., blackheads. The claims of the cosmetic industry are just as likely to be false as those of the drug industry.

about pregnenolone turning into cortisol:
No, it just doesn’t work that way. “Can turn into" has nothing to do with how the organism works. It’s best to assume that everything on the internet is wrong—they are repeated thousands of times, on “reputable” sites, but it isn’t possible to learn anything useful by studying the great trash heap of the internet.

Cholesterol is converted to protective hormones in proportion to thyroid function. Cholesterol is bound inside the blood vessels, liver, brain, and other organs as a defense against PUFA toxicity.
They cause tissue damage, and cells combine them with cholesterol (as esters) for protection, but those esters accumulate in all the tissues with aging, and stresses liberate them, causing prion diseases and other protein folding forms of degeneration.

Natural honey is liquid, but if it’s exposed to dry air for a long time it dehydrates and crystallizes; that doesn’t lower its quality.

Dark honey is more likely to be irritating. The value is mostly the concentrated sugar, but there are small amounts of antioxidant materials.

The traditional Maasai diet of iron-deficient milk was supplemented by a small amount of iron-rich blood. Most common diets already have excessive iron.


He had a funny response with this one where he was critical:

John Ioannidis’ article “Why most research findings are false” is worth reading. Things discussed on “forums” aren’t. Ordinary corporate advertising has been supplemented by the much more economical practice of hiring product reviewers to slander competing products, joining multiple forums with their "unhappy experiences."
Specific vitamin and mineral deficiencies were discovered among impoverished people living on foods that were just available sources of energy, and they are rare when people can buy the foods they want. Government agencies serve the industries that they should regulate, and shouldn’t be trusted as reliable sources of information.
In the case of my friend's kid who was dying from diarrhea, appropriate foods weren’t being given in the hospital, and the 10 mg of vitamin B6 obviously served the purpose without depleting anything.
Your sentences "progesterone can apparently convert to cortisol and aldosterone especially in stressed organisms. apparently people have gained weight and had issues with it” wouldn’t be acceptable even in an English composition class, unless “apparently” could be backed up in some way with evidence.


Progesterone is an antagonist to aldosterone and cortisol. Experiments have shown clearly that pure pregnenolone, like pure progesterone, lowers cortisol in stressed animals with high cortisol. The price of a supplement, and the claims of its vendor, don’t have anything to do with its quality. Pure pregnenolone just doesn’t cause hormonal effects such as you mention. I haven’t recommended pregnenolone use for several years, since I started hearing about reactions that could only be caused by major impurities.

For more than 50 years, in animals and people pregnenolone didn’t have those effects. When it became "a product," dozens of little companies, with no experience in steroid production, began making it.
Water and flour are precursors of bread, but they don’t by themselves turn into bread. Chemistry charts aren’t physiology charts.
Do you consider FDA statements to be based on facts? Where can I find out about the “FDA warning”? It should be assumed that anything on the internet is false.

They misquote me. The foods I recommend, such as milk, cheese, eggs and sea foods contain taurine.

Some people promote almost anything. The foods I recommend contain chromium.

The book link I sent describes the absence of science behind the claims of essentiality.

The book explains that the idea of chromium as an essential nutrient doesn’t have a clear basis in science; it has become a cult to promote the very lucrative industry.

The purity of individual amino acids on the market has been a real issue, so their theoretical benefits have to be considered in relation to what’s available.

They live at very low temperatures that prevent the rapid fat breakdown that occurs at our temperature, but sharks do get cancer—that was just a story to create a market.

I don’t recommend supplements generally, because foods can provide them, and the supplements are always contaminated to some extent in the manufacturing process. In extreme cases I have recommended a small dose of pyridoxine hydrochloride which worked immediately and very well.

People say anything to sell their product. It’s in a wide range of foods. I’ve given small supplements for a variety of problems. The first time was a 2 year old child that had diarrhea that the hospital couldn’t control, and after 3 or 4 days they said she was within a few hours of dying; it was only at that point that the father dared to give her the supplement, and the diarrhea stopped almost immediately. My suggestion, in 1962, was based on old research. It’s effective for many problems related to the distribution of salts and water.

Thanks for posting these. Some interesting comments. "The great trash heap of the internet" is one I'll remember.

If you post them in the depository, along with your questions, many people will be grateful.
 

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Thanks for posting these. Some interesting comments. "The great trash heap of the internet" is one I'll remember.

If you post them in the depository, along with your questions, many people will be grateful.

Yeah that would be great

rarely seen the man so direct which is curious
 

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Yeah, neither have I seen Peat come across so short and direct. Not sure if he was pissed off because it's the 1000th time he has answered these types of questions, or he is upset that people are misquoting him online. I would also like to see this posted in the email depository with better formatting so I can see which questions he is referring to in his answers. Thank you @Mr.Bollox
 

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I got some answers from Ray on some random things.

"I had a friend who got an expensive “altitude tent”; it smelled so bad she couldn’t use it. I recently heard of a 15 year old boy who was using a creatine supplement, died of heart arrest. Bone meal was a popular supplement, until a published analysis showed very high lead content. Wire nets can provide EMF shielding if they are grounded."

"If someone had leprosy, scrofula, syphilis or unexplained granulomas and couldn’t get appropriate things such as penicillin, then a short trial of iodine wouldn’t be crazy. Medical use can’t be extrapolated to chronic large doses as a nutritional supplement. Have you seen the many studies of the hamful effects on the thyroid of regular iodide supplementation?"

"Used occasionally as a topical antiseptic, tincture of iodine is safe. Historically iodide has been used to treat a breast infection. That’s very different from the cult of daily use of large amounts of iodide, started by Guy Abraham." (he attached like 70 studies along with this comment)

The founder of the current iodine cult, Guy Abraham, was promoting iodine along with their radiation devices to protect against electromagnetic pollution. I couldn’t decide whether he really believed those things, or just used them to sell his product.

No, I have never recommended several milligram doses of iodide, and I have often pointed out the damage to the thyroid gland that even moderate iodide supplements can cause:

I have been hearing about some of the absurd recommendations that are being falsely associated with me, and I want to find reliable information about the person’s identity.

My computer doesn’t have a camera or microphone; I use a landline phone; the constant technological up-dates and innovations are doing more harm than good. Just thinking about, anticipating, sex increases testosterone, makes the whiskers grow faster; general good health keeps the increased testosterone from increasing estrogen and cortisol.

No. Occasionally, phobic ideas about nutrients circulate, including places like the raypeatforum, and milk phobia seems to be a chronic cultural problem.

Ordinarily, just thinking about, anticipating, sex increases testosterone and well being, but in a stressed hypothyroid person it’s possible that the testosterone produced by sexual arousal could be converted to estrogen.

It would be more helpful to read some physiology books instead of the internet. Almost everything there is exploitative, insane, stupid, or a blend of those.

There are lots of insane proposals on the internet, and that forum seems to be meeting its cuota.

I get it directly from farmers who don’t treat it, and then I skim it because I don’t want so much fat. Lactose promotes the absorption of calcium and probably other nutrients.

The organic milk I have had from various supermarkets, supposedly reliable brands, has often had an unpleasant taste and soured quickly, even when pasteurized, which I think indicates poor feeding and milking techniques. Sanitary milking practices and good feed—combined hay and pasture—produce clean milk with a good taste that doesn’t need pasteurization. I often heat the milk to speed separation of the cream.

I have averaged two quarts a day for a long time. The method of separating whey from casein determines how much calcium each has; neither by itself is as good.

I don’t eat, or recommend, that much protein. For years I drank a gallon per day. The calorie content of a gallon of whole milk is too much unless you are very active physically.

In the US, the incidence of cancer in young people is increasing; one of the factors is probably increased vaccinations.

The skin on the forehead is a poor indicator of core body temperature. Infrared radiation is safe.

asked about androsterone and 11 keto dht he said "
Not sufficient research to know of safety.

in response to me asking him I heard he used DHT in the last year often and liked it a lot : "
Internet silliness.
I have tried it, and experienced an effect from it, but it isn’t something I use or recommend except for extreme situations such as terminal cancer.

No, I said the opposite, that the final steroids, especially cortisol, estrogen, and aldosterone can have toxic harmful effects, and that cholesterol, pregnenolone, and progesterone are safe. Squalene is very susceptible to oxidation, e.g., blackheads. The claims of the cosmetic industry are just as likely to be false as those of the drug industry.

about pregnenolone turning into cortisol:
No, it just doesn’t work that way. “Can turn into" has nothing to do with how the organism works. It’s best to assume that everything on the internet is wrong—they are repeated thousands of times, on “reputable” sites, but it isn’t possible to learn anything useful by studying the great trash heap of the internet.

Cholesterol is converted to protective hormones in proportion to thyroid function. Cholesterol is bound inside the blood vessels, liver, brain, and other organs as a defense against PUFA toxicity.
They cause tissue damage, and cells combine them with cholesterol (as esters) for protection, but those esters accumulate in all the tissues with aging, and stresses liberate them, causing prion diseases and other protein folding forms of degeneration.

Natural honey is liquid, but if it’s exposed to dry air for a long time it dehydrates and crystallizes; that doesn’t lower its quality.

Dark honey is more likely to be irritating. The value is mostly the concentrated sugar, but there are small amounts of antioxidant materials.

The traditional Maasai diet of iron-deficient milk was supplemented by a small amount of iron-rich blood. Most common diets already have excessive iron.


He had a funny response with this one where he was critical:

John Ioannidis’ article “Why most research findings are false” is worth reading. Things discussed on “forums” aren’t. Ordinary corporate advertising has been supplemented by the much more economical practice of hiring product reviewers to slander competing products, joining multiple forums with their "unhappy experiences."
Specific vitamin and mineral deficiencies were discovered among impoverished people living on foods that were just available sources of energy, and they are rare when people can buy the foods they want. Government agencies serve the industries that they should regulate, and shouldn’t be trusted as reliable sources of information.
In the case of my friend's kid who was dying from diarrhea, appropriate foods weren’t being given in the hospital, and the 10 mg of vitamin B6 obviously served the purpose without depleting anything.
Your sentences "progesterone can apparently convert to cortisol and aldosterone especially in stressed organisms. apparently people have gained weight and had issues with it” wouldn’t be acceptable even in an English composition class, unless “apparently” could be backed up in some way with evidence.


Progesterone is an antagonist to aldosterone and cortisol. Experiments have shown clearly that pure pregnenolone, like pure progesterone, lowers cortisol in stressed animals with high cortisol. The price of a supplement, and the claims of its vendor, don’t have anything to do with its quality. Pure pregnenolone just doesn’t cause hormonal effects such as you mention. I haven’t recommended pregnenolone use for several years, since I started hearing about reactions that could only be caused by major impurities.

For more than 50 years, in animals and people pregnenolone didn’t have those effects. When it became "a product," dozens of little companies, with no experience in steroid production, began making it.
Water and flour are precursors of bread, but they don’t by themselves turn into bread. Chemistry charts aren’t physiology charts.
Do you consider FDA statements to be based on facts? Where can I find out about the “FDA warning”? It should be assumed that anything on the internet is false.

They misquote me. The foods I recommend, such as milk, cheese, eggs and sea foods contain taurine.

Some people promote almost anything. The foods I recommend contain chromium.

The book link I sent describes the absence of science behind the claims of essentiality.

The book explains that the idea of chromium as an essential nutrient doesn’t have a clear basis in science; it has become a cult to promote the very lucrative industry.

The purity of individual amino acids on the market has been a real issue, so their theoretical benefits have to be considered in relation to what’s available.

They live at very low temperatures that prevent the rapid fat breakdown that occurs at our temperature, but sharks do get cancer—that was just a story to create a market.

I don’t recommend supplements generally, because foods can provide them, and the supplements are always contaminated to some extent in the manufacturing process. In extreme cases I have recommended a small dose of pyridoxine hydrochloride which worked immediately and very well.

People say anything to sell their product. It’s in a wide range of foods. I’ve given small supplements for a variety of problems. The first time was a 2 year old child that had diarrhea that the hospital couldn’t control, and after 3 or 4 days they said she was within a few hours of dying; it was only at that point that the father dared to give her the supplement, and the diarrhea stopped almost immediately. My suggestion, in 1962, was based on old research. It’s effective for many problems related to the distribution of salts and water.
Thank you for this. It's rare to read Ray feisty like that but the information is very valuable.
 

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“ There are lots of insane proposals on the internet, and that forum seems to be meeting its cuota.” DAMN what a roast
 
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...thanks for posting those answers!





@Mr.Bollox What is that book called?

Mr Peat do you recommend any foods for chromium and vitamin b6? that seems to be present in no foods at all besides raw broccoli.
whereas molybdenum, manganese, selenium, copper, zinc, and the numerous other vitamins and minerals are found in foods like coconut water, orange juice, milk, eggs, liver.
sir what are your thoughts on creatine and beta alanine supplementation some people promote creatine usage claiming it boosts mitochondrial function or increases their number

Ray Peat:
Some people promote almost anything. The foods I recommend contain chromium.

Chapter 1 Introduction: A history of chromium studies (1955–1995)John B. Vincent∗and Dontarie StallingsDepartment of Chemistry and Coalition for Biomolecular Products, The University ofAlabama, Tuscaloosa, AL 35487-0336
INTRODUCTION
While the fiftieth anniversary of the proposal that chromium (as the trivalent ion) is anessential trace element for mammals is rapidly approaching, little progress has actuallybeen made in establishing the nutritional requirement for and biochemistry of chromiumover these five decades. This is in stark contrast to the advances in knowledge of thenutritional role and biochemistry of other essential trace elements. The transition metals in the third row of the Periodic Table from vanadium to zinc (V, Cr, Mn, Fe, Co, Ni,Cu, and Zn) and also molybdenum and tungsten are generally considered to be essentialfor some form of life. Currently, for each of these transition elements except chromium,at least one metallobiomolecule has been well characterized in terms of its function, three-dimensional structure, and mode of action. In fact, whether chromium is essentialhas been questioned since it was first proposed to be essential over four decades ago;the question of essentialness is still debated openly (see Chapters 2 and 3). Certainly that such a basic question still remains unanswered is problematic.


Me; what are the amounts of chromium in foods you recommend? Mate the RDA for chromium was 120mcg for many years and recently in 2019 was downgraded to 35mcg. regardless it seems extremely difficult to get the rda. do you think the rda of 120mcg for chromium is correct or 35mcg? how would we get this amount just from liver and milk

mr Peat the weston a price foundation wrote an article about your views on omega 3 and omega 6 and they claim you are flawed and that omega 3/6 are essential in small amounts, as found in WAPF recommended foods... they also promote cod liver oil for its omega 3 and vitamins A D and K

Peat:
The book link I sent describes the absence of science behind the claims of essentiality.
That article was published under the name of Mary Enig, a respected lipid researcher, but people told me that she was too sick with cancer at the time to have written it. The article contained such absurdities that it amounted to defamation of Enig; if they have continued to post it, that doesn’t say much for the judgment of the managers of the website.

mr Peat what do you think is a good amount of chromium to take in per day and which foods would you use to obtain it?

Peat: The book explains that the idea of chromium as an essential nutrient doesn’t have a clear basis in science; it has become a cult to promote the very lucrative industry.
 

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Nice answers, I also felt from one of his talks on youtube from last year, that he was pis=ed off. I could not understand why at that point.
 

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Yeah I'm going to be posting less from now on... I don't know whose posts it was that pissed him off so much for him to explicitly name RPF, but I am a pretty frequent poster, so in case of the chance that it was some of mine... I'm going to be reading more, talking less...
 
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Yeah I'm going to be posting less from now on... I don't know whose posts it was that pissed him off so much for him to explicitly name RPF, but I am a pretty frequent poster, so in case of the chance that it was some of mine... I'm going to be reading more, talking less...
it was due to specific supplements being recommended or something, and yeah he didnt name the website but it seems he knows of the forum maybe in his talks with Danny or something!
 
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I got some answers from Ray on some random things.

"I had a friend who got an expensive “altitude tent”; it smelled so bad she couldn’t use it. I recently heard of a 15 year old boy who was using a creatine supplement, died of heart arrest. Bone meal was a popular supplement, until a published analysis showed very high lead content. Wire nets can provide EMF shielding if they are grounded."

"If someone had leprosy, scrofula, syphilis or unexplained granulomas and couldn’t get appropriate things such as penicillin, then a short trial of iodine wouldn’t be crazy. Medical use can’t be extrapolated to chronic large doses as a nutritional supplement. Have you seen the many studies of the hamful effects on the thyroid of regular iodide supplementation?"

"Used occasionally as a topical antiseptic, tincture of iodine is safe. Historically iodide has been used to treat a breast infection. That’s very different from the cult of daily use of large amounts of iodide, started by Guy Abraham." (he attached like 70 studies along with this comment)

The founder of the current iodine cult, Guy Abraham, was promoting iodine along with their radiation devices to protect against electromagnetic pollution. I couldn’t decide whether he really believed those things, or just used them to sell his product.

No, I have never recommended several milligram doses of iodide, and I have often pointed out the damage to the thyroid gland that even moderate iodide supplements can cause:

I have been hearing about some of the absurd recommendations that are being falsely associated with me, and I want to find reliable information about the person’s identity.

My computer doesn’t have a camera or microphone; I use a landline phone; the constant technological up-dates and innovations are doing more harm than good. Just thinking about, anticipating, sex increases testosterone, makes the whiskers grow faster; general good health keeps the increased testosterone from increasing estrogen and cortisol.

No. Occasionally, phobic ideas about nutrients circulate, including places like the raypeatforum, and milk phobia seems to be a chronic cultural problem.

Ordinarily, just thinking about, anticipating, sex increases testosterone and well being, but in a stressed hypothyroid person it’s possible that the testosterone produced by sexual arousal could be converted to estrogen.

It would be more helpful to read some physiology books instead of the internet. Almost everything there is exploitative, insane, stupid, or a blend of those.

There are lots of insane proposals on the internet, and that forum seems to be meeting its cuota.

I get it directly from farmers who don’t treat it, and then I skim it because I don’t want so much fat. Lactose promotes the absorption of calcium and probably other nutrients.

The organic milk I have had from various supermarkets, supposedly reliable brands, has often had an unpleasant taste and soured quickly, even when pasteurized, which I think indicates poor feeding and milking techniques. Sanitary milking practices and good feed—combined hay and pasture—produce clean milk with a good taste that doesn’t need pasteurization. I often heat the milk to speed separation of the cream.

I have averaged two quarts a day for a long time. The method of separating whey from casein determines how much calcium each has; neither by itself is as good.

I don’t eat, or recommend, that much protein. For years I drank a gallon per day. The calorie content of a gallon of whole milk is too much unless you are very active physically.

In the US, the incidence of cancer in young people is increasing; one of the factors is probably increased vaccinations.

The skin on the forehead is a poor indicator of core body temperature. Infrared radiation is safe.

asked about androsterone and 11 keto dht he said "
Not sufficient research to know of safety.

in response to me asking him I heard he used DHT in the last year often and liked it a lot : "
Internet silliness.
I have tried it, and experienced an effect from it, but it isn’t something I use or recommend except for extreme situations such as terminal cancer.

No, I said the opposite, that the final steroids, especially cortisol, estrogen, and aldosterone can have toxic harmful effects, and that cholesterol, pregnenolone, and progesterone are safe. Squalene is very susceptible to oxidation, e.g., blackheads. The claims of the cosmetic industry are just as likely to be false as those of the drug industry.

about pregnenolone turning into cortisol:
No, it just doesn’t work that way. “Can turn into" has nothing to do with how the organism works. It’s best to assume that everything on the internet is wrong—they are repeated thousands of times, on “reputable” sites, but it isn’t possible to learn anything useful by studying the great trash heap of the internet.

Cholesterol is converted to protective hormones in proportion to thyroid function. Cholesterol is bound inside the blood vessels, liver, brain, and other organs as a defense against PUFA toxicity.
They cause tissue damage, and cells combine them with cholesterol (as esters) for protection, but those esters accumulate in all the tissues with aging, and stresses liberate them, causing prion diseases and other protein folding forms of degeneration.

Natural honey is liquid, but if it’s exposed to dry air for a long time it dehydrates and crystallizes; that doesn’t lower its quality.

Dark honey is more likely to be irritating. The value is mostly the concentrated sugar, but there are small amounts of antioxidant materials.

The traditional Maasai diet of iron-deficient milk was supplemented by a small amount of iron-rich blood. Most common diets already have excessive iron.


He had a funny response with this one where he was critical:

John Ioannidis’ article “Why most research findings are false” is worth reading. Things discussed on “forums” aren’t. Ordinary corporate advertising has been supplemented by the much more economical practice of hiring product reviewers to slander competing products, joining multiple forums with their "unhappy experiences."
Specific vitamin and mineral deficiencies were discovered among impoverished people living on foods that were just available sources of energy, and they are rare when people can buy the foods they want. Government agencies serve the industries that they should regulate, and shouldn’t be trusted as reliable sources of information.
In the case of my friend's kid who was dying from diarrhea, appropriate foods weren’t being given in the hospital, and the 10 mg of vitamin B6 obviously served the purpose without depleting anything.
Your sentences "progesterone can apparently convert to cortisol and aldosterone especially in stressed organisms. apparently people have gained weight and had issues with it” wouldn’t be acceptable even in an English composition class, unless “apparently” could be backed up in some way with evidence.


Progesterone is an antagonist to aldosterone and cortisol. Experiments have shown clearly that pure pregnenolone, like pure progesterone, lowers cortisol in stressed animals with high cortisol. The price of a supplement, and the claims of its vendor, don’t have anything to do with its quality. Pure pregnenolone just doesn’t cause hormonal effects such as you mention. I haven’t recommended pregnenolone use for several years, since I started hearing about reactions that could only be caused by major impurities.

For more than 50 years, in animals and people pregnenolone didn’t have those effects. When it became "a product," dozens of little companies, with no experience in steroid production, began making it.
Water and flour are precursors of bread, but they don’t by themselves turn into bread. Chemistry charts aren’t physiology charts.
Do you consider FDA statements to be based on facts? Where can I find out about the “FDA warning”? It should be assumed that anything on the internet is false.

They misquote me. The foods I recommend, such as milk, cheese, eggs and sea foods contain taurine.

Some people promote almost anything. The foods I recommend contain chromium.

The book link I sent describes the absence of science behind the claims of essentiality.

The book explains that the idea of chromium as an essential nutrient doesn’t have a clear basis in science; it has become a cult to promote the very lucrative industry.

The purity of individual amino acids on the market has been a real issue, so their theoretical benefits have to be considered in relation to what’s available.

They live at very low temperatures that prevent the rapid fat breakdown that occurs at our temperature, but sharks do get cancer—that was just a story to create a market.

I don’t recommend supplements generally, because foods can provide them, and the supplements are always contaminated to some extent in the manufacturing process. In extreme cases I have recommended a small dose of pyridoxine hydrochloride which worked immediately and very well.

People say anything to sell their product. It’s in a wide range of foods. I’ve given small supplements for a variety of problems. The first time was a 2 year old child that had diarrhea that the hospital couldn’t control, and after 3 or 4 days they said she was within a few hours of dying; it was only at that point that the father dared to give her the supplement, and the diarrhea stopped almost immediately. My suggestion, in 1962, was based on old research. It’s effective for many problems related to the distribution of salts and water.
Mr Bollox you should start a thread with all of this treasure trove of Ray Peat information! So much of what you posted is exactly why I ONLY listen to Ray Peat's words. I loved his criticism of so much information on the internet misquoting him. That is ESPECIALLY true on the RayPeatForum, with a lot of suppliments and A LOT of OPINIONS. I would copy and past all that you posted myself in a thread called "What Ray Peat Really Says", but I don't know all of the sources you got all of this good stuff from to backup arguements I am sure would come my way. I am gonna read this over and ove and over again! Well done Sir!
 
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