Danny's crusade against Mercola on Progest-E

[charlie]

"Migraines is a symtom of ......" You can complete this with 999+ different words depending on your current belief.

The cope is real.......

14. MCP (PC)
Cholesterol went to 630, has high liver numbers, IBS is coming back, has chronic migraines, is eating liver once a month, had to add plant foods for some things to improve.

View: https://www.facebook.com/groups/PrincipiaCarnivora/posts/2343250422492887/

24. HS (TLD)
Is asking about tiredness and migraines and histamine imbalances after eating liver.



View: https://www.facebook.com/groups/theliondiet/posts/2751497621658323/

30. MG (TLD)
Has tested low for vitamin C levels. In the comments she admits to eating “creamy and yummy super fresh” goat liver from animals that she raises and processes herself. Is suffering from migraines and vitamin C deficiency symptoms, although she doesn’t specify which ones, swollen tummy, painful joints, and chronic congestion.

View: https://www.facebook.com/groups/theliondiet/posts/2716730211801731/

@AkadiaHostel: “eating a can of cod liver gave me a pressure headache that felt like my head was about to explode it lasted about three weeks, tried it again a year later because I don’t learn from my lessons and had a similar reaction”

View: https://x.com/thepowerofozone/status/1712037349176012918?s=20

78. EW (CN)
Has been on the carnivore diet for 4 weeks. Since 3rd week complains of foggy mind, constipation, headache in the evenings, sleepy head in the morning, eyes covered with fog, bags under eyes, feeling tired, bloated. Is asking for help and advice, seems desperate. She says she included beef liver once a week in the 2nd and 3rd week and continued with it in the 4th week.

View: https://www.facebook.com/groups/carnivoreaureliusnation/posts/3213826141973750/

95. GB (CDFB)
Says that he experienced stomach distress and general body aches after eating chicken liver (but says he seems to be fine with beef liver).
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In an earlier post he said that he hates the taste of liver, but forced himself to eat it anyway.
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In later posts he repeatedly complains about headaches, autoimmune flares, recurring body aches, brain fog, more headaches, complains of catching a cold with stuffy nose, fatigue, histamine reactions. Multiple infections, one of which forced him to take strong antibiotics for 10 days due to strep and bronchitis. Then more repeated complains of feeling completely inflamed, with stuffy nose, body aches, fatigue, feels awful, more headaches that last for several days. Also seasonal allergies are back, sinusitis getting progressively worse, headaches again, body aches, and fatigue.
Read all his posts here:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/227139417943982/user/1445868354/

 

[charlie]

However, despite looking around for anecdotal data, I've never seen carnivore people eating liver lamenting tooth decay...

Where did you look? I could easily find it....

93. Natalie Holder (Carnivore Rx)
Natalie reports about a bad experience on the carnivore diet. After six months of strict carnivore she
– lost 3 teeth
– lost half of her hair
– skin became dry, wrinkled, and leathery
– couldn’t sleep for more than 3 to 4 hours at a time
– was urinating constantly
– fingernails cracked
– gums were bleeding
– had extreme fatigue
– muscle weakness
– lost ability to walk 4 blocks (before used to hike 2-3 hours)
What did she eat?
“My strict carnivore diet consisted of – grassfed or pasture raised beef. Organ meats, bone broth, bone marrow, beef tallow, bacon, eggs, raw goat cheese, electrolytes and sea salt.”

View: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1330145297516799/posts/1600447043819955/

Natalie answered my questions in the comments and provided some more information:
She says that most of her symptoms resolved with Vit C and calcium supplementation.
Which supports the idea that her symptoms were caused by vit A poisoning from the liver, since vitamin A damage can be mitigated by vit C.
She continues to eat small amounts of liver, 2 to 4 oz per week and seems to discount the possibility that it was the liver which caused the problems to begin with, since the amounts are so minor.
Although, she claims that most of her severe problems have been resolved with vit C supplementation, she is still in the recovery process, she says.

96. Jane @soulbirdlife (X)
Says that carnivore and keto were a disaster for her. She ended up with Hashimotos, was “so ill”, her gums were really bad and she half expected to looser her teeth.
She says that she was eating a bit of liverwurst during her carnivore and keto phase.
She now eats more liverwurst but also fruits and feels dramatically better, but she still has a long way to go, she says.

View: https://x.com/soulbirdlife/status/1731484031475478726?s=20

72. RGR (CN)
Complains of teeth issues – a bit of rot and sore gums. Eats offal [=organs] a couple times a week.
[Sore gums are a typical sign of scurvy – Paola]

View: https://www.facebook.com/groups/carnivoreaureliusnation/posts/3159627540726944/

 

[charlie]

Is the Ray Peat diet safe for teeth? You can look at pictures of Ray Peat himself for that answer. Or, simply look around the forum.....

Dental Health Degrading Quickly

I had a couple of major fillings done 1 month ago, and now I have to do FIVE more (granted, several were on the "watch list" for a couple of years, but still) and my mouth was probably the worst shape it has ever been in my life (they commented on it too) in terms of bleeding/aggravation of gums...

raypeatforum.com

Deteriorating Dental Health

1-2 years ago I foolishly stopped cleaning my teeth for some time. During this period my teeth began deteriorating (demineralization, enamel erosion, etc.) I'm familiar with vitamin D, K, calcium, and coconut oil swishing. Any testimonials of restoring the dental health? I drink tons of dairy...

raypeatforum.com

Tooth Decay On RP Diets - I Think Thyroid Is The Culprit

I'm on RP diet for almost 10 years. I was eating tons of sugar, tons of acidic fruits, and never had a single dental problem, not a single cavity or gums issue. Then I started messing with thyroid and my dental health went from perfect to absolute disaster in just one month. Multiple cavities...

raypeatforum.com

There's Goes Another!

I've just found another hole in my tooth :( That's 3 in the past year, all in the lower molars. Plus, I'm pretty sure one of the upper molars that was filled years ago now has hole between two teeth. No fluoride, natural tooth paste for 10 years. Floss almost daily. Obviously high sugar diet...

raypeatforum.com

Ideal diet for oral health?

Hey everyone! What would an ideal diet look like in orther to reminalize and emphasize oral health? I've been experiencing some tooth decay and gum sensitivity on a 'peaty' diet. I need a lot of calories (from 4000 to 5000) per day, I feel like sugar wrecks my teeth and am not sure what to...

raypeatforum.com

This Is A Big Piece Of The Health Puzzle

@Blossom whole foods sells a gum called PUR for roughly $1 a pack. it has xylitol in it, though make sure to buy a flavor that does not include citric acid as I believe ellie said to avoid acid in gum and mint products. also if your saliva is alkaline you can rub your gums with a sterilized...

raypeatforum.com

If sugar is health promoting, why does it cause tooth sensitivity/ pain? And why does Calcium stop it?

I wonder, would apple juice be better for teeth than OJ since it contains very little citric acid? edit: just checked, it doesn't matter

raypeatforum.com

I got more cavities after using tom's fluoride free toothpaste

im just making this post to share my own experience with going no-fluoride for teeth. ive been using tom's fluoride free toothpaste for about a year now and during that time period ive gotten like three new cavities (gumline ones). I very very seldom got cavities before; this only started...

raypeatforum.com

I got more cavities after using tom's fluoride free toothpaste

im just making this post to share my own experience with going no-fluoride for teeth. ive been using tom's fluoride free toothpaste for about a year now and during that time period ive gotten like three new cavities (gumline ones). I very very seldom got cavities before; this only started...

raypeatforum.com

Shrimp's Peat Log- Thyroid, Anxiety And Acne Issues, Oh My!

I vote for ice cream!! :) I know what you mean about feeling like you can't change your circumstances due to the health issues. This has happened to me a lot over the last few years. I don't have a job but I have 2 kids to take care of even if I am too tired. Sometimes I think I would be so much...

raypeatforum.com

Advice For Getting Off Thyroid Hormone

http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/forum ... 14&t=10735

raypeatforum.com

Cavity in left front tooth

Hi guys, I've a problem. Out of nothing, suddenly I have a cavity in my left front tooth. It really freaks me out a little bit I must say. It's on the left side of my most left front tooth. The first day you could only see a tiny whole if you looked at it from the side. But since, then the...

raypeatforum.com

Healing a cavity log

i used to have perfect strong teeth when i was on the carnivore diet. as i transitioned to the ray peat diet my dental health has only gone downhill. as i increased sugar intake it only got worse. these last couple of months i have been under-eating, super stressed, overworked, haven't been...

raypeatforum.com

Finding A Safe Dentist

I have a cavity. I think I got it from intense stress. I read on the Ray Peat email exchanges wiki page that Ray Peat recommends that "any obvious cavity should be cleaned out and filled" and "filling a cavity soon is best." He is also against x-rays and I think strongly so. Where can I find a...

raypeatforum.com

Cavities Every 6 Months

cavities every 6 months and it way over my budget too. Any ideas I brush 4x with baking soda I use water pick and floss once a day. I am using expensive electric toothbrush i am doubtful of them at times. I buy bulk prisles and change them regularity.

raypeatforum.com

Kuinone - Liquid Vitamin K2 (MK-4)

How much mk4 does body stores? Higher dose give me clean teeth feeling, I wonder if once you are saturated, lower dose would be able to do same since body/tissue stores are full, all would go towards those teeth. Requiring lower maintenance dose. Maybe higher calcium consumption also uses up...

raypeatforum.com

Kuinone - Liquid Vitamin K2 (MK-4)

How much mk4 does body stores? Higher dose give me clean teeth feeling, I wonder if once you are saturated, lower dose would be able to do same since body/tissue stores are full, all would go towards those teeth. Requiring lower maintenance dose. Maybe higher calcium consumption also uses up...

raypeatforum.com

 

[charlie]

Is "vitamin A" and copper destroying our pets too? You bethca. Many reports in the low "vitamin A" groups that their pets improved on a low "vitamin A" and low copper diet.

View: https://twitter.com/NutriDetect/status/1749531932961173650

 

[Archon]

Where did you look? I could easily find it....

Interesting... So in theory if people peating report improvement of decay on NTT carnivore it means peating is the worst of the worst.
Carnivore should have way lower turnover of ascorbate but at the same time once it's out it hardly repletes. That would be something to explore before reconciling this with vA toxicity imo

 

[Regina]

Is this the posture of a man that is seeking?

"One commercial product that Georgi and I discussed was Progest-E which the late biologist and thyroid expert Ray Peat developed..."
"...I did some research and now would strongly recommend avoiding Progest-E."

"...[Progest-E] is put into a cheap plastic squeeze bottle.... loaded with plasticizers like BPA..." [LDPE does not contain BPA]

"But, the more important reason is that it is virtually impossible to squeeze out a precise dose of 'one drop' from the bottle... this product needs to be avoided." [Mercola can't figure out how to warm the bottle to dose it?]

"M: And there's only one company – or there are two companies that do that, Progest E, which I don't like.
G: Kenogen is the company that produces Progest E.
Dr. Joseph Mercola:
M: Yeah, I don't like that. I do not recommend that company at all."




-Too viscous
-Dangerous or cheap squeeze bottles
-Stated he deletes comments
-“Im an MD. Seven years of schooling…”
- Etc


I don’t see searching, openness or bridge building here




We’ve heard the phrase
“Don’t cast your pearls before swine”

Meaning
One can waste their time by offering something that is helpful or valuable- to someone who does not appreciate it


Brokenness, humility, ill health et al are great teachers

This kind of talk will turn off some number of his own followers. They may be happy to seek out another avenue.
'That fellow Mercola had on seems pretty sharp. What's his name?

I've seen this a lot on a livestreams/interviews. Someone makes a comment, and it doesn't really register that it needs to be rebutted. Possibly because the guest is surprised, or nervous or thinking about the next point, so they just move on. And then later, they get dragged because they didn't immediately denounce the comment. And then there's like this inquisition where they are supposed to confess and disassociate. It's all childish.

Georgi often reminds me of this meme when he is in conversation with someone who holds differing views.

There is wisdom there. He can speak his own views out into the ether for those with ears to hear.

 

[dfspcc20]

Is the Ray Peat diet safe for teeth? You can look at pictures of Ray Peat himself for that answer. Or, simply look around the forum.....

Dental Health Degrading Quickly

I had a couple of major fillings done 1 month ago, and now I have to do FIVE more (granted, several were on the "watch list" for a couple of years, but still) and my mouth was probably the worst shape it has ever been in my life (they commented on it too) in terms of bleeding/aggravation of gums...

raypeatforum.com

Deteriorating Dental Health

1-2 years ago I foolishly stopped cleaning my teeth for some time. During this period my teeth began deteriorating (demineralization, enamel erosion, etc.) I'm familiar with vitamin D, K, calcium, and coconut oil swishing. Any testimonials of restoring the dental health? I drink tons of dairy...

raypeatforum.com

Tooth Decay On RP Diets - I Think Thyroid Is The Culprit

I'm on RP diet for almost 10 years. I was eating tons of sugar, tons of acidic fruits, and never had a single dental problem, not a single cavity or gums issue. Then I started messing with thyroid and my dental health went from perfect to absolute disaster in just one month. Multiple cavities...

raypeatforum.com

There's Goes Another!

I've just found another hole in my tooth :( That's 3 in the past year, all in the lower molars. Plus, I'm pretty sure one of the upper molars that was filled years ago now has hole between two teeth. No fluoride, natural tooth paste for 10 years. Floss almost daily. Obviously high sugar diet...

raypeatforum.com

Ideal diet for oral health?

Hey everyone! What would an ideal diet look like in orther to reminalize and emphasize oral health? I've been experiencing some tooth decay and gum sensitivity on a 'peaty' diet. I need a lot of calories (from 4000 to 5000) per day, I feel like sugar wrecks my teeth and am not sure what to...

raypeatforum.com

This Is A Big Piece Of The Health Puzzle

@Blossom whole foods sells a gum called PUR for roughly $1 a pack. it has xylitol in it, though make sure to buy a flavor that does not include citric acid as I believe ellie said to avoid acid in gum and mint products. also if your saliva is alkaline you can rub your gums with a sterilized...

raypeatforum.com

If sugar is health promoting, why does it cause tooth sensitivity/ pain? And why does Calcium stop it?

I wonder, would apple juice be better for teeth than OJ since it contains very little citric acid? edit: just checked, it doesn't matter

raypeatforum.com

I got more cavities after using tom's fluoride free toothpaste

im just making this post to share my own experience with going no-fluoride for teeth. ive been using tom's fluoride free toothpaste for about a year now and during that time period ive gotten like three new cavities (gumline ones). I very very seldom got cavities before; this only started...

raypeatforum.com

I got more cavities after using tom's fluoride free toothpaste

im just making this post to share my own experience with going no-fluoride for teeth. ive been using tom's fluoride free toothpaste for about a year now and during that time period ive gotten like three new cavities (gumline ones). I very very seldom got cavities before; this only started...

raypeatforum.com

Shrimp's Peat Log- Thyroid, Anxiety And Acne Issues, Oh My!

I vote for ice cream!! :) I know what you mean about feeling like you can't change your circumstances due to the health issues. This has happened to me a lot over the last few years. I don't have a job but I have 2 kids to take care of even if I am too tired. Sometimes I think I would be so much...

raypeatforum.com

Advice For Getting Off Thyroid Hormone

http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/forum ... 14&t=10735

raypeatforum.com

Cavity in left front tooth

Hi guys, I've a problem. Out of nothing, suddenly I have a cavity in my left front tooth. It really freaks me out a little bit I must say. It's on the left side of my most left front tooth. The first day you could only see a tiny whole if you looked at it from the side. But since, then the...

raypeatforum.com

Healing a cavity log

i used to have perfect strong teeth when i was on the carnivore diet. as i transitioned to the ray peat diet my dental health has only gone downhill. as i increased sugar intake it only got worse. these last couple of months i have been under-eating, super stressed, overworked, haven't been...

raypeatforum.com

Finding A Safe Dentist

I have a cavity. I think I got it from intense stress. I read on the Ray Peat email exchanges wiki page that Ray Peat recommends that "any obvious cavity should be cleaned out and filled" and "filling a cavity soon is best." He is also against x-rays and I think strongly so. Where can I find a...

raypeatforum.com

Cavities Every 6 Months

cavities every 6 months and it way over my budget too. Any ideas I brush 4x with baking soda I use water pick and floss once a day. I am using expensive electric toothbrush i am doubtful of them at times. I buy bulk prisles and change them regularity.

raypeatforum.com

Kuinone - Liquid Vitamin K2 (MK-4)

How much mk4 does body stores? Higher dose give me clean teeth feeling, I wonder if once you are saturated, lower dose would be able to do same since body/tissue stores are full, all would go towards those teeth. Requiring lower maintenance dose. Maybe higher calcium consumption also uses up...

raypeatforum.com

Kuinone - Liquid Vitamin K2 (MK-4)

How much mk4 does body stores? Higher dose give me clean teeth feeling, I wonder if once you are saturated, lower dose would be able to do same since body/tissue stores are full, all would go towards those teeth. Requiring lower maintenance dose. Maybe higher calcium consumption also uses up...

raypeatforum.com

@charlie have people on low vA diet remineralized cavities? Ideally with before and after pics or other solid evidence.

 

[charlie]

@charlie have people on low vA diet remineralized cavities?

Yes.

 

[dfspcc20]

Yes.

Before/after pics or other evidence? It is a bold claim so it will naturally bring about skepticism.

 

[dukesbobby777]

Is the Ray Peat diet safe for teeth? You can look at pictures of Ray Peat himself for that answer. Or, simply look around the forum.....

Dental Health Degrading Quickly

I had a couple of major fillings done 1 month ago, and now I have to do FIVE more (granted, several were on the "watch list" for a couple of years, but still) and my mouth was probably the worst shape it has ever been in my life (they commented on it too) in terms of bleeding/aggravation of gums...

raypeatforum.com

Deteriorating Dental Health

1-2 years ago I foolishly stopped cleaning my teeth for some time. During this period my teeth began deteriorating (demineralization, enamel erosion, etc.) I'm familiar with vitamin D, K, calcium, and coconut oil swishing. Any testimonials of restoring the dental health? I drink tons of dairy...

raypeatforum.com

Tooth Decay On RP Diets - I Think Thyroid Is The Culprit

I'm on RP diet for almost 10 years. I was eating tons of sugar, tons of acidic fruits, and never had a single dental problem, not a single cavity or gums issue. Then I started messing with thyroid and my dental health went from perfect to absolute disaster in just one month. Multiple cavities...

raypeatforum.com

There's Goes Another!

I've just found another hole in my tooth :( That's 3 in the past year, all in the lower molars. Plus, I'm pretty sure one of the upper molars that was filled years ago now has hole between two teeth. No fluoride, natural tooth paste for 10 years. Floss almost daily. Obviously high sugar diet...

raypeatforum.com

Ideal diet for oral health?

Hey everyone! What would an ideal diet look like in orther to reminalize and emphasize oral health? I've been experiencing some tooth decay and gum sensitivity on a 'peaty' diet. I need a lot of calories (from 4000 to 5000) per day, I feel like sugar wrecks my teeth and am not sure what to...

raypeatforum.com

This Is A Big Piece Of The Health Puzzle

@Blossom whole foods sells a gum called PUR for roughly $1 a pack. it has xylitol in it, though make sure to buy a flavor that does not include citric acid as I believe ellie said to avoid acid in gum and mint products. also if your saliva is alkaline you can rub your gums with a sterilized...

raypeatforum.com

If sugar is health promoting, why does it cause tooth sensitivity/ pain? And why does Calcium stop it?

I wonder, would apple juice be better for teeth than OJ since it contains very little citric acid? edit: just checked, it doesn't matter

raypeatforum.com

I got more cavities after using tom's fluoride free toothpaste

im just making this post to share my own experience with going no-fluoride for teeth. ive been using tom's fluoride free toothpaste for about a year now and during that time period ive gotten like three new cavities (gumline ones). I very very seldom got cavities before; this only started...

raypeatforum.com

I got more cavities after using tom's fluoride free toothpaste

im just making this post to share my own experience with going no-fluoride for teeth. ive been using tom's fluoride free toothpaste for about a year now and during that time period ive gotten like three new cavities (gumline ones). I very very seldom got cavities before; this only started...

raypeatforum.com

Shrimp's Peat Log- Thyroid, Anxiety And Acne Issues, Oh My!

I vote for ice cream!! :) I know what you mean about feeling like you can't change your circumstances due to the health issues. This has happened to me a lot over the last few years. I don't have a job but I have 2 kids to take care of even if I am too tired. Sometimes I think I would be so much...

raypeatforum.com

Advice For Getting Off Thyroid Hormone

http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/forum ... 14&t=10735

raypeatforum.com

Cavity in left front tooth

Hi guys, I've a problem. Out of nothing, suddenly I have a cavity in my left front tooth. It really freaks me out a little bit I must say. It's on the left side of my most left front tooth. The first day you could only see a tiny whole if you looked at it from the side. But since, then the...

raypeatforum.com

Healing a cavity log

i used to have perfect strong teeth when i was on the carnivore diet. as i transitioned to the ray peat diet my dental health has only gone downhill. as i increased sugar intake it only got worse. these last couple of months i have been under-eating, super stressed, overworked, haven't been...

raypeatforum.com

Finding A Safe Dentist

I have a cavity. I think I got it from intense stress. I read on the Ray Peat email exchanges wiki page that Ray Peat recommends that "any obvious cavity should be cleaned out and filled" and "filling a cavity soon is best." He is also against x-rays and I think strongly so. Where can I find a...

raypeatforum.com

Cavities Every 6 Months

cavities every 6 months and it way over my budget too. Any ideas I brush 4x with baking soda I use water pick and floss once a day. I am using expensive electric toothbrush i am doubtful of them at times. I buy bulk prisles and change them regularity.

raypeatforum.com

Kuinone - Liquid Vitamin K2 (MK-4)

How much mk4 does body stores? Higher dose give me clean teeth feeling, I wonder if once you are saturated, lower dose would be able to do same since body/tissue stores are full, all would go towards those teeth. Requiring lower maintenance dose. Maybe higher calcium consumption also uses up...

raypeatforum.com

Kuinone - Liquid Vitamin K2 (MK-4)

How much mk4 does body stores? Higher dose give me clean teeth feeling, I wonder if once you are saturated, lower dose would be able to do same since body/tissue stores are full, all would go towards those teeth. Requiring lower maintenance dose. Maybe higher calcium consumption also uses up...

raypeatforum.com

I'm currently trialling this low vitamin-A diet that you're promoting here, but I just want to respond to your post above. I started Peating in November 2013, and I've done it every day of my life up until this current day. I have always smashed two quarts of fruit juice each day. Always apple and OJ. Lovely acidic liquors that my teeth, in theory, should get 'eaten' by. For years I went through a phase of a bottle a day of maple syrup in my milk. Sugar, always in coffee. I've not had one single cavity in that whole 10/11 year period.

However, my gingivitis, has progressed. Its not really bad or anything, but it's there. I messaged Ray once about it, and he said that gingivitis was more linked to the health of my gut than what I was swishing around my mouth during meals.

So even though my gums could be in better shape, what has protected my teeth from the sugary onslaught? I suppose I've taken a fair bit of K2, and I always get my calcium in. I've never bothered with D3 because it's always had negative effects (insomnia, etc).

So Grant would tell me that sugar attacks my teeth? Or did it attack my gums, but left my teeth alone? What does he say about gum disease (as we call it here in UK)?

 

[InChristAlone]

I'm currently trialling this low vitamin-A diet that you're promoting here, but I just want to respond to your post above. I started Peating in November 2013, and I've done it every day of my life up until this current day. I have always smashed two quarts of fruit juice each day. Always apple and OJ. Lovely acidic liquors that my teeth, in theory, should get 'eaten' by. For years I went through a phase of a bottle a day of maple syrup in my milk. Sugar, always in coffee. I've not had one single cavity in that whole 10/11 year period.

However, my gingivitis, has progressed. Its not really bad or anything, but it's there. I messaged Ray once about it, and he said that gingivitis was more linked to the health of my gut than what I was swishing around my mouth during meals.

So even though my gums could be in better shape, what has protected my teeth from the sugary onslaught? I suppose I've taken a fair bit of K2, and I always get my calcium in. I've never bothered with D3 because it's always had negative effects (insomnia, etc).

So Grant would tell me that sugar attacks my teeth? Or did it attack my gums, but left my teeth alone? What does he say about gum disease (as we call it here in UK)?

The calcium can be protective to some degree of cavities especially when combined with K2. It also greatly greatly depends on dental hygiene. Did you have good hygiene? Peat never really promotes dental hygiene, bad mistake. If you are getting plaque it has to be taken off or the bacteria produce too many acids and erode the enamel. The saliva itself can also be acidic AND can contain bile acids. So your bile must have been flowing properly. Were you eating soluble fiber during the Peat diet?

 

[ddjd]

I listened to the mercola interview today. All he said was the kenogen product isn't very good and doesn't let you measure the dosage accurately. IT'S ALL TRUE. Why is it bad for him to state this?

 

[xeliex]

I listened to the mercola interview today. All he said was the kenogen product isn't very good and doesn't let you measure the dosage accurately. IT'S ALL TRUE. Why is it bad for him to state this?

I will give Mercola the benefit of the doubt that he did not know Kenogen was associated with Ray's widow... But bruh, be nice when talking about anyone or anything.

Instead of just saying that you can't accurately squeeze a dose out, he clearly verbalized his negative thoughts about Kenogen as a company and claimed that the bottle has plasticizers and BPA, which it doesn't... Now even if one doesn't think he had band intentions, which I don't necessarily do, his way of dissing Progest-E and Kenogen ain't cool and ain't gentleman like.

It was kind of him to come and apologize but the apology didn't hit the spot for many of us and he still didn't acknowledge that now he knows the bottle has no BPA.

On top of that, there were talks about legal action against Danny, whereas the slander at hand is from Mercola towards Kenogen.

It is easy to dose progest-e with eyeballing the drops - it's not rocket science and it's not critical!

 

[gd81]

The cope is real. Many people speak of their teeth falling apart on the Ray Peat diet. Here is a recent thread in the last couple days with the OP saying his teeth are going south on the Ray Peat diet then others chime in saying the same.

Ideal diet for oral health?

Hey everyone! What would an ideal diet look like in orther to reminalize and emphasize oral health? I've been experiencing some tooth decay and gum sensitivity on a 'peaty' diet. I need a lot of calories (from 4000 to 5000) per day, I feel like sugar wrecks my teeth and am not sure what to...

raypeatforum.com

Not sure what is going on there, mine only got better. I had cavities all the time since childhood and that finally stopped. The only dental issues I've had are my gums receed if I take big amounts of pregnenolone for long periods which I don't really do anymore. If I supplement with vitamin A of all things it brings the gums back but I'd rather avoid the cause in the first place than have to fix a problem.

 

[Snicky]

Regarding teeth: most ppl coming to this forum or RP ideas probably came because their health was ‚broken.‘ I‘d guess their mouths weren‘t perfect, right? So I think implicating Ray Peat advice as causative might be ignoring the (longterm/preexisting) alternate variable, no? Especially since everyone does it differently…

I‘d be curious to know if successful RP ‚diet‘ adherents would post here, or remain long on here if thriving and having solved their issues. At that point you just go enjoy life, right? (I believe exceptions exist, but the sampling of Peatarians here might lean towards those with original underlying issues that may not resolve easily…). Possible?

 

[GreekDemiGod]

Regarding teeth: most ppl coming to this forum or RP ideas probably came because their health was ‚broken.‘ I‘d guess their mouths weren‘t perfect, right? So I think implicating Ray Peat advice as causative might be ignoring the (longterm/preexisting) alternate variable, no? Especially since everyone does it differently…

You have a point, but some of the reports clearly emphasise that their dental health degeneration has accelerated since peating. Which would suggest that “peating” did them more harm, given their state of health.

 

[charlie]

View: https://twitter.com/NutriDetect/status/1748414147606544404

View: https://x.com/NutriDetect/status/1748420030193401961?s=20

 

[vocedilegno]

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[vocedilegno]

View: https://twitter.com/NutriDetect/status/1748414147606544404

View: https://x.com/NutriDetect/status/1748420030193401961?s=20

Does Vitamin A increase expression of aldehyde dehydrogenase?

 

[charlie]

Why don’t you just rename this website “Ray Peat Was a Liar and Wrong About Everything Forum”

Because Ray Peat was not a liar, he died by his own sword and believed in what he was doing. And he is not wrong about everything, a lot of his work still stands and he helped make me the better person that I am for teaching me how to think and to not follow any man religously. Why are you so butt hurt because many people are getting sick from the Ray Peat diet but when they move away from the diet they are getting well and thriving? That seems odd to me. Why does it bother you so much that a man can be wrong about something and when people find an answer to why he was wrong and want to share it to help others you start making up absolute BS statements like the one in the quote?