What Do You Guys Think Of Masturbating And Do You Do It

[Experienced]

I'm on testosterone injections atm but before these I used 11 keto dht never experienced any suppression or anything , just remember if you are trying to increase size your at the age where things like dht might still work for you after a certain age they won't, all I'm saying is if I was your age I would 100 percent try get dht or use 11 keto dht .

I know what you mean but my size is normal I luckily enough don't have a micro penis mine is erect like 14 15 cm nothing to worry about in my case flaccid 11 cm or smth don't know

 

[Mark21]

I've been paying attention to this sort of thing for a few years now. My longest streak without porn was 100 days. My longest streak of no orgasm was exactly 6 weeks, and that was after a year of not jerking off more than maybe 20-30 times total. I was very serious about it for a time.

Its obvious that sex with someone you're attracted to is almost always going to be preferred, but sometimes its not in the cards for a while. You're in a transitional period, you're not up to the emotional investment required, not in the right circles.. whatever it is, you're not getting laid. Well then if jerking off keeps you from pulling your hair out, sounds like a good idea to me.

Should you use porn? Hard to say. A lot of the content is offensive and even destructive, and its always an act of voyeurism, so if you want to accept those terms then alright, but those are the terms. I know Johnny Sins has ****88 tons of gorgeous pornstars, a lot more sex in this guys life than most, but he jerks off plenty as well. He actually sounds gay in interviews, which I think that could be consequent to how sexual he is.

For me, I did nofap for a couple years, then I went back to using porn for a while because I was doing PE and it helped considerably with that, but now I'm not so sure what I'm going to do there. Prolactin is an out and out KILLER for me, and the regular jerking off that came with handling my **** all the time meant more of that so, yea.

I think once every 10 days or so is good. There was a long time where I was regularly going for 2-3 week streaks. If you can do it less and you're seeing good things I say keep doing it.

 

[JenLN]

What about women? Am I gonna lose my life force and become less of a woman if I masturbate too much? My record was 15 times in two days (recently) in addition to sex with my partner. Having so many orgasms cant be a good thing from what I can read here

 

[snacks]

What about women? Am I gonna lose my life force and become less of a woman if I masturbate too much? My record was 15 times in two days (recently) in addition to sex with my partner. Having so many orgasms cant be a good thing from what I can read here

You lose what you're going to lose energetically through your period rather than through orgasm. This is why many if not most of the great female saints, esp those with miraculous accomplishments never menstruated. Of course not everyone puts stock in this kind of thing and you don't have to

The issue with prolactin is the same with women iirc but whether that's an issue is for you to say. Different people seem to handle elavated prolactin differently in terms of what it does to their productivity. However sex raises prolactin too so laying this out as a fap/nofap issue is dishonest

 

[TheSir]

However sex raises prolactin too so laying this out as a fap/nofap issue is dishonest

Sex also releases oxytocin, which largely negates the effects of prolactin. Hence the widely shared sentiment that you feel better after sex than after masturbation.

This is why many if not most of the great female saints, esp those with miraculous accomplishments never menstruated.

Where could I read of these?

I wonder if it's true that females lose nothing upon sex. To me it seems that those women who have a lot of sex age the poorest, whereas those who have least age better. Of course, excess indulgence in sex usually comes with other unealthy things too.

 

[snacks]

Sex also releases oxytocin, which largely negates the effects of prolactin. Hence the widely shared sentiment that you feel better after sex than after masturbation.


Where could I read of these?

I wonder if it's true that females lose nothing upon sex. To me it seems that those women who have a lot of sex age the poorest, whereas those who have least age better. Of course, excess indulgence in sex usually comes with other unealthy things too.

Oh ***t I forgot about the oxytocin thing; I'll cop to being retarded there.

Re: menstruation joan of arc is probably the most famous example. I've heard that semen is immunosuppressive but as I am not a homosexual and dont plan on becoming one I frankly haven't looked into that but it would explain a lot, esp with college aged women

 

[Jib]

What about women? Am I gonna lose my life force and become less of a woman if I masturbate too much? My record was 15 times in two days (recently) in addition to sex with my partner. Having so many orgasms cant be a good thing from what I can read here

You'll lose life force if your partner considers masturbation cheating like my ex did :p Seriously though, that was the worst. Barring guilt/shame/abuse, I think you're OK.

Aside from that, I'd gauge your feelings. Regardless of what you read, how do you feel after having so many orgasms? Don't let outside information cloud your own personal biological cues.

Energy? Fatigue? Motivation? Mood? Take note of all of these. If you're very concerned, maybe take a little time off from orgasms and see if it changes how you feel at all. If it really is draining you, it could be worth taking a break. If you feel fine, then don't worry about it.

I used to compulsively masturbate, and it didn't feel good. I felt like I had to because I was so stressed out. It should be obvious if this is the case: is it genuine sexual pleasure or is it coming from a place of stress/anxiety, e.g. trying to avoid uncomfortable feelings or dealing with things? If it's not, then I wouldn't worry about it. However, only you can answer this for yourself.

More than draining your life force, I'd be concerned about the psychological motivation to orgasm with such a high frequency. There're two possibilities: you simply have a high sex drive and should enjoy it, or you're doing it compulsively to escape some kind of stressor. I'd say forget what anyone else says and simply pay attention to how you feel, personally. If you feel happy and energized and satisfied, you're good. If you're feeling worn out, exhausted, no motivation, not really enjoying things a lot outside of sex/masturbation, it would be worthwhile to try backing off and seeing how you feel.

Could also be worth experimenting with quitting masturbation and only having sex, even for just a while, just to see how it affects you. No harm in trying. I'm just careful about advising anything as I've been through an extreme amount of sexual shaming/guilt in my life and that is the most damaging thing of all, IMO.

 

[Libra guy]

I've been paying attention to this sort of thing for a few years now. My longest streak without porn was 100 days. My longest streak of no orgasm was exactly 6 weeks, and that was after a year of not jerking off more than maybe 20-30 times total. I was very serious about it for a time.

Its obvious that sex with someone you're attracted to is almost always going to be preferred, but sometimes its not in the cards for a while. You're in a transitional period, you're not up to the emotional investment required, not in the right circles.. whatever it is, you're not getting laid. Well then if jerking off keeps you from pulling your hair out, sounds like a good idea to me.

Should you use porn? Hard to say. A lot of the content is offensive and even destructive, and its always an act of voyeurism, so if you want to accept those terms then alright, but those are the terms. I know Johnny Sins has ****88 tons of gorgeous pornstars, a lot more sex in this guys life than most, but he jerks off plenty as well. He actually sounds gay in interviews, which I think that could be consequent to how sexual he is.

For me, I did nofap for a couple years, then I went back to using porn for a while because I was doing PE and it helped considerably with that, but now I'm not so sure what I'm going to do there. Prolactin is an out and out KILLER for me, and the regular jerking off that came with handling my **** all the time meant more of that so, yea.

I think once every 10 days or so is good. There was a long time where I was regularly going for 2-3 week streaks. If you can do it less and you're seeing good things I say keep doing it.

So you think prolactin raising is the root cause of how some guys feel bad after or something else and i also noticed my erections are a lot harder after i masturbate from coming off a 100+no fap cycle

 

[Mark21]

So you think prolactin raising is the root cause of how some guys feel bad after or something else and i also noticed my erections are a lot harder after i masturbate from coming off a 100+no fap cycle

No I didn't say that, and you need to pay more attention to how you organize and express your thoughts. Idk if English is your first language but this is obnoxious reading this.

Prolactin is a killer for me, which I knew before coming here, but I do think Peat also suggests keeping levels low in general. Its one problem in a complex of problems when using pornography to masturbate regularly, as I stated in my first post.

If you're not using porn, prolactin and fantasy become the major drawbacks to masturbation, neither of which are helping you get laid IMO.. but if you haven't had a nut in a long while then it might not be a bad idea, though I can't say really either way.

If I have a date I generally make sure to have not nutted within the past week or so. Its just a point of cleanliness for me. I don't like the hormonal consequences so I avoid it if I have something important coming up.

 

[Jib]

Some more thoughts tonight. I feel bad for the monkey in this thread. He's just getting spanked relentlessly. After this I think I'm gonna give him a break.

There's a big difference between abstaining when your sex drive is extremely high vs. nonexistent. The real "benefits" are only clear when your sex drive is high. Having a very powerful craving and not acting on it is where the "transmutation" comes in. If you're depressed and lethargic and have no sex drive and don't masturbate because you don't feel an urge to, I doubt anyone would really feel any difference whether they're masturbating or not.

I'm not sure what it is on a physiological level, but having very powerful sexual urges, and then focusing that energy into something else, is definitely a real thing. It works. The most immediate and obvious example is working out. Another would be hitting up girls when you normally wouldn't, or being bolder with girls you're already acquainted with. That pent up energy has to go somewhere.

In and of itself it isn't going to give you social skills, any more than it'll magically teach you an effective workout program. But abstaining does seem like it can give you an edge.

Still have very mixed feelings about porn. At the end of the day, it is a "buffer" against finding a sexual partner, or multiple sexual partners. It's a lot of worrying about whether masturbation is good or bad, harmful or not, whether porn is good or bad, harmful or not...when pretty much no one on planet Earth would argue that sex in a normal context is unhealthy.

Not masturbating without directing the energy anywhere is useless. The primary focus should be how are you going to improve your life, further your career/ambitions, find a sexual partner, etc. It is not complicated. It's the simplest thing in the world. However, emotions make it difficult. It's easier to wonder whether porn or masturbation are good or bad instead of wondering why you can't find a sexual partner and how to solve that issue. Because that can be scary if you have a lot of trauma around sex/relationships, or even just poor social skills and low self esteem.

The real question is: what would you rather do than masturbate? You will probably not like the answer to that question because it's likely something you don't have in your life and think you can't achieve. And therein lies the problem; masturbation is an attempt to cover up those fears and anxieties and sweep them under the rug for a while.

I think of it like drugs. Drugs do cause problems in and of themselves, but if your only goal in life is to quit drugs and stay off them, everything else is not just magically going to fall into place. You need to think bigger than that. The urge to escape comes from feeling hopeless and optionless. The solution isn't to get rid of the urge to escape, but to live a life you don't need to escape from.

 

[Mark21]

Some more thoughts tonight. I feel bad for the monkey in this thread. He's just getting spanked relentlessly. After this I think I'm gonna give him a break.

There's a big difference between abstaining when your sex drive is extremely high vs. nonexistent. The real "benefits" are only clear when your sex drive is high. Having a very powerful craving and not acting on it is where the "transmutation" comes in. If you're depressed and lethargic and have no sex drive and don't masturbate because you don't feel an urge to, I doubt anyone would really feel any difference whether they're masturbating or not.

I'm not sure what it is on a physiological level, but having very powerful sexual urges, and then focusing that energy into something else, is definitely a real thing. It works. The most immediate and obvious example is working out. Another would be hitting up girls when you normally wouldn't, or being bolder with girls you're already acquainted with. That pent up energy has to go somewhere.

In and of itself it isn't going to give you social skills, any more than it'll magically teach you an effective workout program. But abstaining does seem like it can give you an edge.

Still have very mixed feelings about porn. At the end of the day, it is a "buffer" against finding a sexual partner, or multiple sexual partners. It's a lot of worrying about whether masturbation is good or bad, harmful or not, whether porn is good or bad, harmful or not...when pretty much no one on planet Earth would argue that sex in a normal context is unhealthy.

Not masturbating without directing the energy anywhere is useless. The primary focus should be how are you going to improve your life, further your career/ambitions, find a sexual partner, etc. It is not complicated. It's the simplest thing in the world. However, emotions make it difficult. It's easier to wonder whether porn or masturbation are good or bad instead of wondering why you can't find a sexual partner and how to solve that issue. Because that can be scary if you have a lot of trauma around sex/relationships, or even just poor social skills and low self esteem.

The real question is: what would you rather do than masturbate? You will probably not like the answer to that question because it's likely something you don't have in your life and think you can't achieve. And therein lies the problem; masturbation is an attempt to cover up those fears and anxieties and sweep them under the rug for a while.

I think of it like drugs. Drugs do cause problems in and of themselves, but if your only goal in life is to quit drugs and stay off them, everything else is not just magically going to fall into place. You need to think bigger than that. The urge to escape comes from feeling hopeless and optionless. The solution isn't to get rid of the urge to escape, but to live a life you don't need to escape from.

Yea, +1 brilliant

 

[Experienced]

Also does excess masturbation has anything to do with penile size or girth whatever did any of you see difference and can it affect the quality?

 

[Libra guy]

Also does excess masturbation has anything to do with penile size or girth whatever did any of you see difference and can it affect the quality?

Yes that what i was trying to say i did 100 plus days of no fap and was stressed and horny so i released to porn and the load was monstrous and after the 3rd time ive seen a big improvement in size and erection strength im now im Done with it and will begin another no porn no fap journey and ill be taking clomid. Bromocriptine and safed musli

 

[Experienced]

Yes that what i was trying to say i did 100 plus days of no fap and was stressed and horny so i released to porn and the load was monstrous and after the 3rd time ive seen a big improvement in size and erection strength im now im Done with it and will begin another no porn no fap journey and ill be taking clomid. Bromocriptine and safed musli

You mean after orgasming your member looked bigger or was it before on nofap bigger while doing nofap?

 

[Libra guy]

You mean after orgasming your member looked bigger or was it before on nofap bigger while doing nofap?

During no fap i noticed longer flaccid hang and when I released the wood came easily and it looked bigger and fuller

 

[Experienced]

During no fap i noticed longer flaccid hang and when I released the wood came easily and it looked bigger and fuller

Sorry for detailed info but how big is your member while hanging flaccid and erected etc?

 

[Experienced]

Sorry for detailed info but how big is your member while hanging flaccid and erected etc?

If you ever managed to jerk off or orgasm whatever you consider doing try measuring before and after for the experiment

 

[Libra guy]

Sorry for detailed info but how big is your member while hanging flaccid and erected etc?

Im about 5 inch flaccid and it gets to 6inches when erected i heard fapping boost DHT which i know is important for growth

 

[Experienced]

Im about 5 inch flaccid and it gets to 6inches when erected i heard fapping boost DHT which i know is important for growth

Hmm alright do DHT is important I'm not sure if I should swallow Androsterone orally I'm afraid to try though maybe I should get 11 keto

 

[Flo93]

The combination of a pathologically increased libido and a rather below-average appearance is the absolute killer of all positive feelings for me. This lousy state then intensifies the feeling of inner emptiness and loneliness. To compensate for this, my libido increases again, which makes me masturbate excessively. And that, in turn, ultimately reinforces all previous symptoms. It's a damn vicious cycle of tremendous resistance. I've been trying to break this vicious circle for about 15 years. I have not yet succeeded, despite intensive attempts. I believe this problem will have completely destroyed me at some point.