WEIGHING STARCHES CAREFULLY (w/pics)

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"By present and past statements of the American Dietetic Association, I think some kind of institutional brain defect might account for their recommendations. Although the dietetic association now feebly acknowledges that sugars don't raise the blood sugar more quickly than starches do, they can't get away from their absurd old recommendations, which were never scientifically justified: “Eat more starches, such as bread, cereal, and starchy vegetables--6 servings a day or more. Start the day with cold (dry) cereal with nonfat/skim milk or a bagel with one teaspoon of jelly/jam. Put starch center stage--pasta with tomato sauce, baked potato with chili, rice and stir-fried beef and vegetables. Add cooked black beans, corn, or garbanzo beans (chickpeas) to salads or casseroles.” -Ray Peat


I realize some people can't tolerate fruits, honey and sugar, so starch would be the next best option to get the body that necessary sugar source. Though they are not "optimal" they are useful in a serious cook's palette.

I have achieved a greater state of health eliminating most of them, at least on a daily basis, but sometimes a LITTLE can make a big difference in the way a dish turns out. My chili would not be the hit it always is without those few tablespoons of masa. My gravies would not be famous if it wasn't thickened with a couple of tablespoons of heirloom all-purpose Jovial flour, and a FEW sweet red potatoes deserve a place in a well made bone broth stew. The joy of a satisfying meal has a place in good health, but regret undoes it all. So my approach to having them, while staying on my anti-aging path, is keeping in mind that "a little goes a long way". Like Ray Peat said in the quote above, don't make starches the star of the show, or even as a side, use them wisely, in small amounts, as a supporting role, with lots of healthy ingredients. Make those little starch additions a drop in the bucket amongst a lot of other nutritious stuff. For the most part my weeks don't include starches, but when life presents me with some empty lobster shells I am not throwing them away, and passing up a good lobster bisque, to avoid a couple teaspoons of flour, no way!

When it comes to starches, potatoes have the most logical benefits. Unlike grains they were not intended for the animals and they don't takeaway more than they give, like grains. To minimize their "cons" i like to boil them. If I am making a stew I cut up and pre-boil the potatoes before adding at the end of my soup. This not only removes a lot of the oxalates, but also it removes a lot of starch, which can be seen in the cloudy water that gets dumped. Even when I make my french fries I pre-boil the potatoes and let them dry on paper towels for a half hour or more before frying in coconut oil. The same goes for hash browns, boil the potatoes first and cool before grating them up and frying in refined coconut oil. They stay light and fluffy too!

When it comes to rice I make sushi with a LITTLE rice and lots of fish and we have it as an appetizer. Masa tortillas make eating awful cow's liver a treat in tacos that make me dreaming of more ! On a special weekend, I love to make an apple "Dutch Baby" pancake, which has mostly apples, eggs and milk with only a half cup of oat four in the whole batch, which makes 4 servings. That is 2 tablespoons of oat flour per person!

LITTLE starch appearances open the door to many more satisfying dishes that leave no regrets. This is how to "have your cake and eat it too"! "What can you eat on this diet"? When you sign up for Ray Peat, you are taking it up a notch. Learn how to cook and care about yourself. It doesn't get any better than this!
 

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This is one of those "weighing starches carefully" breakfasts that I make every once in awhile. I love that it only has 1/2 cup of oat flour and feeds 4 people! Every guest I have made it for has either asked for recipe or talked about it months and years later! The recipe is on my Fruits & Vegetable thread linked below!

 

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I thought this was interesting. I have heard Ray Peat talk about eating corn when it is very sweet, and that it is starchy when it is not sweet. So the fact that white corn does not continue to ripen after being picked makes it more of a fruit than a starch, like the typical yellow corn.
 

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I am puting most of my starch slurge recipes on this thread. I din'tvuse much, butva little goes long way! I put up the recipe for this Chili Cheese Hominy and Oat Apple Cake.

 

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"Here's a currently often cited article which claimed to show that fructose causes "insulin resistance" compared to a starch diet, but careful reading would show that it confirms the powerful protective effect of fructose (and sucrose), since if the greater weight gain of the starch eaters continued beyond the short 5 weeks of the experiment, after a year the starchy rats would have weighed twice as much as the lean sugar eaters. The fructose limits insulin secretion, but intensifies metabolism, burning calories faster." -Ray Peat
 
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"There is a great anti-sugar cult, with even moralistic overtones, equating sugar craving with morphine addiction. Sugar craving is usually caused by the need for sugar, generally caused by hypothyroidism. When yeasts have enough sugar, they just happily make ethanol, but when they don't have sugar, they can sink filaments into the intestine wall seeking it, and, if the person is very weak, they can even invade the bloodstream and other organs. Milk, cheese, and fruits provide a very good balance of nutrients. Fruits provide a significant amount of protein. Plain sugar is o.k. when the other nutrients are adequate. Roots, shoots, and tubers are, next to the fruits, a good carbohydrate source; potatoes are a source of good protein. Meat as the main protein can provide too much phosphorus in relation to calcium." -Ray Peat
 
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"Naturally fermented sourdough is less harmful than standard or unleavened wheat products, but any starch tends to stimulate appetite by activating fat synthesis. The same number of calories in fruit would be less fattening, and would keep your blood sugar steadier, improve your sleep and mental energy." -Ray Peat
 
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"Orange juice and other sweet fruits (with very little starch) would be best. The muscle meats and starches don't provide a good balance of minerals and amino acids (high in phosphate, tryptophan, and cysteine, for example). You are probably deficient in calcium, so gradually adding cheese, eggs, and milk could be helpful."
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Q. If you are offered either white bread or white rice, which one would you choose? I heard white rice reduces androgens that’s why Asian men have a lot less hair than other races..

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"In general, I think white rice is safer. Real sourdough bread, in which most of the gluten has been degraded, is probably about as safe as rice. I think nixtamalized corn is the safest." -Ray Peat
 
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“If you take orange juice with some fat it will be more stabilizing to your blood sugar than the grits and potatoes. Starches increase the stress hormones, interfering with progesterone and thyroid.” -Ray Peat
 
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Below are more examples of how I weigh my starches carefully. A thin piece of yeastless sourdough or a masa made tortilla makes me look forward to eating beef liver or canned oysters, when I otherwise wouldn't eat those two things. Making my fruit crisps with half sprouted oats and half all-purpose heirloom wheat flour makes all the difference in my health without being able to taste the difference. The baked pears are also made with sprouted oats and a little heirloom Einkorn.
 

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"There is one form of grain that is relatively harmless because of the traditional method of processing it, and that is corn that has been made into tortillas or other native American foods, using alkali to detoxify it and make it more digestible. Pellagra was strongly associated with the use of ordinary corn, but not with the traditional preparations. Tortillas fried in coconut oil and salted make a pleasant snack which is less nutritious than potato chips, but less allergenic and more digestible." -Ray Peat

 
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I think an organic true French croissant deserves a place in this thread! If you can find one, it practically has no flour in it, which means it is loaded with butyric acid. The is no trouble distinguishing a grocery store croissant and a true, high butter content, French croissant. The latter, fresh out of the oven one melts in your mouth with every bite!

"For example, if your recipe contained 10 pounds of flour and 2 pounds of milk, you'd say the milk was at 20 percent of the flour. A formula in percentage format can be easily scaled up or down to any batch size, and the baker can tell at a glance how it compares to the ratios in other recipes.

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The bland croissants made at many commercial bakeries can have as little as 15 to 25 percent butter, which makes them profitable but hardly inspiring. The classic French croissant has twice that much, with traditional recipes usually containing 45 to 55 percent butter by weight. In plain language, your flour weighs roughly twice as much as the butter. Deluxe versions of the basic croissant dough can incorporate as much as 75 to 80 percent butter, but they can be difficult for the unwary or inexperienced."

 
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Rinse & rePeat:

“I recall five, or so, years ago reading that you recommend having protein in the day and starches and fats at night, am I remembering right?”

RAY PEAT:

“Yes, the function of the fat is to slow absorption of the carbohydrate.”
 
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This is why if I am going to have a wheat splurge my first choice is an organic croissant (or a yeast free sourdough bread made with starter). Unlike bread and pizza crust, a croissant is packed with “Peaty” butter, milk and sugar. This recipe below makes 24 croissants. That is about two tablespoons of flour per croissant.

 

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“Feeding animals a normal diet with the addition of Coca-Cola, or with a similar amount of sucrose, has been found to let them increase their calorie intake by 50% without increasing their weight gain (Bukowiecki, et al., 1983). Although plain sucrose can alleviate the metabolic suppression of an average diet, the effect of sugars in the diet is much more likely to be healthful in the long run when they are associated with an abundance of minerals, as in milk and fruit, which provide potassium and calcium and other protective nutrients.

Avoiding the starches such as cereals and beans, and using fruits as a major part of the diet helps to minimize the effects of the polyunsaturated fats.” -Ray Peat
 
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