we all here know that a calcium score near or above phosphorus is necessary, but im beginning to think that even so, you don't want Ph intake to be that high. Its been a puzzle to me why I felt the best I ever have when I was a vegan years back eating mostly fruit. Since then I wrecked my health via stress and not eating or sleeping enough (I was lucky to get in 2k cal and sleep more than 4 hours a night for about a year, so I lost like 30 lbs and ect ect, fcked things UP), to recover a vegan diet wouldn't do. Id eat nuts and whatever else for protein and a lto of fruit juice and never could get weight back, basically my digestion was messed up...everything would rush through, although now I blame a lot of that on low quality and shwaggy bottled fruit juice. Anyways, I added dairy and eggs initially, gained like...within 2 months or something I gained all the weight back but still felt ***t...probably average for an American, but ***t for me. Slowly improved for the next year and a half, and eventually got into a comfortable rythmn, dumped out alcohol and various other anti nutritious materials, including coffee ...at some point I couldn't stand the sour bitter palate and it stained the eff out of my teeth. Anyways, throughout this whole time ive come to major conclusions and how various ratios matter and many things, and most of what Peat says ive incorporated, however, ive fine tuned many things that I guess are like crazy perfectionist but that's wahts required in this world and to recover from what id been through / manage the years of backed up stress and other stuff in my own personal life. Probably like last fall I thought id hit that dope point where I was rolling and had diet down, but it wasn't quite balanced..like id have to keep making adjustments every day, so 1-2 days could be boss, then something tipped. Fast forward to now, I even started experiementing with cooking again, and it went well...only thing would be like white rice and cucumbers and light things like that, but theres this like perpetual nag that wont go away in lower back. Basically fatigue, or rather like..a hyper stimulation followed by either a adrenalien through it or pass out kind of thing, basically until bowel all clear for the day, which sometimes is really early, sometimes not til like the afternoon. Urine flow seems slow, like ill get clammy sweaty before I urinate which Is weird. One thing back when I was high fruit eating vegan, id piss like I was drunk all day...and a connection ive made is really like...your life flows as your urine flows, and mood is correlated...part of why drinking helps people. For a period of time I was getting remarkably good results drinking a lot of dilute sake throughout the day. So I was researching recently...I made a connection that excess calcium per fluid ratio causes like...issues to say the least, but I figured what ive been consuming...something like 13-15% per cup was ok, of course balanced above Phosphorus. After looking at a lot of nutrition data, ive realized in nature, this is kind of impossible to happen without either dark greens, the kind that are really bitter and unpalatable anyways, or with milk from a cow or another animal. Human milk has 8% calcium per cup fluid, most fruit is in the 2-8% range, the only leafy green id eat back when I was a vegan (btw this is a huge sign towards intuitive eating...I was the healthiest and felt best I ever have back then...if wasn't for the many stresses in my life at the time, basically ***t living conditions, having to overwork cause I had no or very little financial help, and stuff like that, id have continued it and not have lost weight, I naturally just ate what I wanted...I didn't know as much, nearly as much, as I did about nutrition at the time...I went vegan out of choice and just had fun choosing what I liked to cook and buy and that was it) ..anyways id only eat lettuce, and that's the only green that gives under 10% calcium per cup fluid..its like 7-9% depending on the type. So I was looking up excess calcium symptoms, and it seemed to correlate with what ive dealt with back and forth for some time. Based on studies RDA recommends not to get more than 250% (2500mg) a day, and most on a Peat diet probably get near or more than that depending. I really think now though...just based on intuition and reasoning and experience, that its more the high Phosphorus with it that's the problem, it doesn't let calcium free flow out, instead becomes Calcium Phosphate which really hurts the kidneys and bowel and potentially whole digestive and circulatory system. As a high fruit eater, even with a low protein intake, and some pufas though I naturally didn't like that many nuts/seeds and was eating a lot of cocoa butter and coconut oil, I felt better than I do on a pretty perfect, even enhanced Peat diet...and the fact fluid sits and I sweat clammy rather than pee like im drunk is indicating to me kidneys are stressed, and high phosphorus is likely the main culprit behind that. I found this study
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24225358
which says that over 1400mg Phosphorus is linked to all cause mortality. If you think of natural animals, especially apes, but anything that isn't a carnivore obligate, they don't eat harsh dark mature greens and aren't drinkning cows milk, so they never get Phorphorus that high at all (fruit is very low in phosphorus, and light greens are pretty low). Im gonna have to figure this out, but just a heads up, Im thinking even with the merits and benefits of milk and even with a high calcium ratio, the simple fact its so high in phosphorus is a detriment if you consume more than 5 cups maybe, with no meat or eggs, in a day. To still get enough protein (casue meat and eggs are even worse, high phosphorus and low calcium) without loading up on a ton of lettuce, greek yogurt or paneer, farmers cheese, seems like potentially the only other option.
The thing is..in the back of my mind, ive always known, like high fruit..makes sense and is it, that was what changed my whole life back then, like felt how a human should...felt comfortable as a soul in a body, wasn't random weird ***t or tensions or nags..it was just like...peace, comfort, eye to eye, still, with energy, urine was rapid and fast, bowel was not an issue, ect, but the fact that fruit is expensive, and of generally terrible quality ( yesterday I was shopping, and advertised 'tree ripened peaches' were hard...I laughed) is what messes everything up. Anyways, so yea...Im thinking if you actually wanna keep health simple, and if you think about it...besides PUFA pressed oil (would apply to nuts/seeds) keeping phosphorus low while avoiding things that taste bitter, basically sums up all actual healthy regimes with results. The biggest thing is the nervous system benefit. When I was a vegan back then, I felt like earth was...home? like I belonged, dunno how to put it, there was no demons or negativity or nagging and whatever you wanna call it, the human condition, it was surprisingly and almost overwhelmingly good and amazing...and when most people their whole life, well pretty much everyone, doesn't feel like that, to actually feel like that is shocking, almost so good (really just normal) its hard to believe it and not think something terrible must be waiting to happen. So anyways, just think about it...if you eat what other apes and herbivores eat, even adding some termites or small amounts of high protein food, your phosphorus intake will be dramatically lower than what pretty much everyone around the world, for most of recorded history, has consumed. Grains, meat, dairy, eggs, nuts, seeds, root vegetables, which basically apes eat very small to none of, make it pretty impossible (white rice in small amounts can still get you just ok...at best) to live with a low phosphorus intake. And if you look at human breast milk its very low, like 3% per 172 calories, of phosphorus if that's any indications. Translate that to a 2500 calorie diet that's like 44% Phosphorus (440mg) only in a day, and if your diet was mostly fruit and light greens, you'd probably be something similar.
Could be a big reason, pretty certain, people like to drink a lot, in fact...compelled to, because (another thing was when I became a vegan eating high fruit, my desire/need to drink disappeared completely, and I felt happier and looser than when I was on a normal diet drinking...people I knew might have thought I was high or wired or messing around, but it was actually just how good I felt...its like the energy and inspiration of a toddler or something, or more)...I think people drink basically to dilute out excess sodium, calcium phosphate, that create chronic nervous, GI, and hypertensive problems...im actually certain of this, because alcohol itself is offensive.
I bid my fellow noobish journeymen ado, something to think about and if any of you are brave enough, to try
and btw, kale sucks...ive always known this. Anyone recommending or eating kale is waving a red flag saying 'im full of egotisitical ***t!!!!"
I just wanna add also, I don't have any health problems right now, my mood is good, im flexible, mobile, ect, never get sick, following a Peat based diet in principle, but its not really like...its significantly notches down from what I know my potential is, and that ive felt before, so that's why I keep trying to get back to that state
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24225358
which says that over 1400mg Phosphorus is linked to all cause mortality. If you think of natural animals, especially apes, but anything that isn't a carnivore obligate, they don't eat harsh dark mature greens and aren't drinkning cows milk, so they never get Phorphorus that high at all (fruit is very low in phosphorus, and light greens are pretty low). Im gonna have to figure this out, but just a heads up, Im thinking even with the merits and benefits of milk and even with a high calcium ratio, the simple fact its so high in phosphorus is a detriment if you consume more than 5 cups maybe, with no meat or eggs, in a day. To still get enough protein (casue meat and eggs are even worse, high phosphorus and low calcium) without loading up on a ton of lettuce, greek yogurt or paneer, farmers cheese, seems like potentially the only other option.
The thing is..in the back of my mind, ive always known, like high fruit..makes sense and is it, that was what changed my whole life back then, like felt how a human should...felt comfortable as a soul in a body, wasn't random weird ***t or tensions or nags..it was just like...peace, comfort, eye to eye, still, with energy, urine was rapid and fast, bowel was not an issue, ect, but the fact that fruit is expensive, and of generally terrible quality ( yesterday I was shopping, and advertised 'tree ripened peaches' were hard...I laughed) is what messes everything up. Anyways, so yea...Im thinking if you actually wanna keep health simple, and if you think about it...besides PUFA pressed oil (would apply to nuts/seeds) keeping phosphorus low while avoiding things that taste bitter, basically sums up all actual healthy regimes with results. The biggest thing is the nervous system benefit. When I was a vegan back then, I felt like earth was...home? like I belonged, dunno how to put it, there was no demons or negativity or nagging and whatever you wanna call it, the human condition, it was surprisingly and almost overwhelmingly good and amazing...and when most people their whole life, well pretty much everyone, doesn't feel like that, to actually feel like that is shocking, almost so good (really just normal) its hard to believe it and not think something terrible must be waiting to happen. So anyways, just think about it...if you eat what other apes and herbivores eat, even adding some termites or small amounts of high protein food, your phosphorus intake will be dramatically lower than what pretty much everyone around the world, for most of recorded history, has consumed. Grains, meat, dairy, eggs, nuts, seeds, root vegetables, which basically apes eat very small to none of, make it pretty impossible (white rice in small amounts can still get you just ok...at best) to live with a low phosphorus intake. And if you look at human breast milk its very low, like 3% per 172 calories, of phosphorus if that's any indications. Translate that to a 2500 calorie diet that's like 44% Phosphorus (440mg) only in a day, and if your diet was mostly fruit and light greens, you'd probably be something similar.
Could be a big reason, pretty certain, people like to drink a lot, in fact...compelled to, because (another thing was when I became a vegan eating high fruit, my desire/need to drink disappeared completely, and I felt happier and looser than when I was on a normal diet drinking...people I knew might have thought I was high or wired or messing around, but it was actually just how good I felt...its like the energy and inspiration of a toddler or something, or more)...I think people drink basically to dilute out excess sodium, calcium phosphate, that create chronic nervous, GI, and hypertensive problems...im actually certain of this, because alcohol itself is offensive.
I bid my fellow noobish journeymen ado, something to think about and if any of you are brave enough, to try
and btw, kale sucks...ive always known this. Anyone recommending or eating kale is waving a red flag saying 'im full of egotisitical ***t!!!!"
I just wanna add also, I don't have any health problems right now, my mood is good, im flexible, mobile, ect, never get sick, following a Peat based diet in principle, but its not really like...its significantly notches down from what I know my potential is, and that ive felt before, so that's why I keep trying to get back to that state
