sugar daddy
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oh Westside don't be a nincompoop
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pboy said:https://raypeatforum.com/forums/posts/97435/ lol, he doesn't even sound that weird.
narouz said:https://raypeatforum.com/forums/posts/97436/ Peat doesn't "stutter."
Peat doesn't stutter.
Sheik said:https://raypeatforum.com/forums/posts/97425/
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The crackling is due to tension in his voice because he is nervous. And he's more nervous now than he ever was because he's older and has less strength.
narouz said:https://raypeatforum.com/forums/posts/97538/ His voice isn't weird to me.
I very much enjoy listening to it.
I think much of what we're poking at here
has more to do with what like pboy and Sheik have talked about:
shyness, nervousness, sensitivity, etc.
And too:
remember that Peat says he likes to go all day sometimes
without talking or maybe reading--
because he says embedding routinely in that verbal way of experiencing life
diminishes the artistic, imaginative, intuitive (just read "drivel" here, cantstop )
Thus his reply when asked about being fluent in Spanish (I think it was).
He said, jokingly: "I don't think I'm fluent in any language."
My take on that was that
he often likely feels estranged from and ill-at-ease with verbal communications.
And so he doesn't display the aggressive, martial, argumentative style typified by, say, someone like Jack Webb.
cantstoppeating said:I guess Peat didn't get enough OJ or sugar before his interviews to lower those stress hormones. He must be crumbling under the weight of his messiah like attitude to reveal truth at the cost of upsetting the interviewer. This must explain the sound of his voice. I see now. How noble.
Peatarian said:Re: Ray Peat's voice
Unread postby peatarian » Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:40 pm
I noticed the same thing - the somehow scratchy voice. There are some comments in other forums about it. I don't think it's inappropriate to talk about it. RP himself makes fun of the way vegetarians and vegans look.
I have experienced this thing about the voice myself now. The better my metabolic rate (with lots of regular protein eating and good T3 ratio and progesterone, super temperature a.s.o.) the scratchier my voice sounds. Sometimes I sound like a boy reaching puberty.
If you listen carefully to Ray Peat you will notice that it seems like there are a million thought processes happening in his brain. It's not so much about finding words and saying them - it's more about picking one of the thoughts and choosing one the hundreds of words which would match to find the most accurate. It's not like normal verbal processes. It's more like he is trying to get some distance from his constant thinking to find the thoughts needed at this particular moment and regarding this particular question and then he describes what he sees in what he considers a simple language.
It's really like that: The more alert you are, the easier complex thinking becomes, the harder it is to express the thoughts verbally.
He says in the interview on youtube: "I don't consider myself fluent in any language." (You got to love him.)
RP spends a few days of every week without talking or reading or listening to words. He paints.
You will remember that he mentions how estrogen produces 'excited cells' in the brain, very much like cocaine, and by doing so makes us more fluent in any language. Of course only for some time and always with a high price. (He considers cocaine to be less harmful ...)
I think we are imprinted with the idea that thinking and talking have to be the same. They are not. Maybe TV gives this impression because it's hard to show how smart a character is without letting him say something intelligent. If you consider that you can read about 100 times more in the same time if you stop hearing your own voice in your head you might consider it possible that putting thoughts into words might actually slow you down.
If you try not talking for two days, not watching TV, not listening to music ... and you have enough thyroid ... you will notice the same about your voice I think and about your thinking.
Charlie said:HDD the quoting queen strikes again!
Now there is something to think about.......