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I don't feel like digging up and posting all of the quotes but over the years I've seen many people comment on how Peat's voice sounds "weird" and it almost always comes from someone who is from EU, OZ, NZ, or anywhere, but usually EU. Some Americans have commented on it but it's mostly non-Americans who do and if they're American then they are young, born post 1990.
Here's one:
"his voice is so shaky"
from a forum called acne.org
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/318834-ray-peat/
There's even an old thread from here on it: viewtopic.php?t=538
If you're not from the US and your only exposure to Americans is from movies and TV shows of today or recent, then of course you will think Ray sounds weird.
It's because people don't understand American culture from the time Peat grew up in.
He was born in 1936 which means he grew up in the 1940's and 50's. I believe he spent his first few years in Santee, CA which is the hot SoCal desert but eventually his family made their way to Oregon.
The culture was completely different back then.
Whereas we have Starbucks and other places now, the 1940's saw the growth of soda shops (aka malt shops) in America. Adorned with a quintessential jukebox, these establishments became hot spots for young people looking for a good time, good music, and a delicious treat.
"Say Jack, we're gonna go meet up with Ray at the malt shop for some Coca-Cola vanilla ice cream floats with the dames, what'dya say?"
"That place is lousy, let's go to the other one."
Unfortunately, Americans today don't put "say" in front of sentences, and they don't use the awesome word "lousy" anymore.
Actual photo of Peat circa 1960's:
When I first listened to a Ray interview in October of 2011, I was thrown off for the first minute or so because at that point the only picture I saw of him was the tiny one on his site
where it seems to be from when he was around 35 years old, so I didn't know he was 76 at the time of the audio I was listening to. But then once I realized his age and where he grew up, it all made sense.
I was thrown off because I was expecting to hear an authoritative, snide, smug, arrogant, nutrition know it all snake oil seller because that's how most people who do nutrition/health interviews are. But what I heard was just the opposite.
Danny Roddy once said "Peat is the grandpa I've always wanted," look at the waybackmachine archive of dannyroddy.com. But I get why he said that. There's a certain part of American culture where Grandparents are cherished in a special way. Watch old TV shows from the 50's and you'll see this. There's a special kind of "Look what Grandpa taught me Ma!" kind of characterisitcs of American culture. I was lucky enough to spend the first few years of my life with my great-grandparents, and my great grandfather fought in WW2. I cherish the memories of him teaching me about different things, or simply just throwing a baseball with him. Peat once mentioned one of his cousins who was a "ball player" meaning baseball player, in one of the audio interviews, another sign of his American culture.
"I had put a tablespoonful of coconut oil on some rice I had for supper, and half an hour later while I was reading, I noticed I was breathing more deeply than normal." - RP
The fact that Ray used the word "supper" shows exactly what I'm talking about. Only people who come from Peat's era use the word "supper."
Even Matt Stone of 180degreehealth once wrote in one of his books that the reason he lives in Florida is so that he can spend time with his grandpa who lives there. Americans who were born pre 1990 know exactly what I'm talking about.
Outside of default American English, there are only about 5 American regional accents: Boston/New England, New York City/New Jersey, Chicago/Upper mid West, The South, and Hawaiian Pidgin. Everyone else does not have an accent. The surfer/stoner dude or the ditzy valley girl are characters of that person and not a regional accent. There are people from all over the country who can have that character.
So besides regional accents, there are generational, tones, I guess would be a good word. Since there is no California or Oregon accent, Ray just has his generational tone.
Peat's not odd. Listen to Americans his age and you'll see that in general conversation they sound just like him; polite, friendly, non-authoritarian, with wisdom and wit. Combine that culture of a person with a brilliant scientist and artist and you get Ray Peat.
Here's one:
"his voice is so shaky"
from a forum called acne.org
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/318834-ray-peat/
There's even an old thread from here on it: viewtopic.php?t=538
If you're not from the US and your only exposure to Americans is from movies and TV shows of today or recent, then of course you will think Ray sounds weird.
It's because people don't understand American culture from the time Peat grew up in.
He was born in 1936 which means he grew up in the 1940's and 50's. I believe he spent his first few years in Santee, CA which is the hot SoCal desert but eventually his family made their way to Oregon.
The culture was completely different back then.
Whereas we have Starbucks and other places now, the 1940's saw the growth of soda shops (aka malt shops) in America. Adorned with a quintessential jukebox, these establishments became hot spots for young people looking for a good time, good music, and a delicious treat.
"Say Jack, we're gonna go meet up with Ray at the malt shop for some Coca-Cola vanilla ice cream floats with the dames, what'dya say?"
"That place is lousy, let's go to the other one."
Unfortunately, Americans today don't put "say" in front of sentences, and they don't use the awesome word "lousy" anymore.
Actual photo of Peat circa 1960's:
When I first listened to a Ray interview in October of 2011, I was thrown off for the first minute or so because at that point the only picture I saw of him was the tiny one on his site
where it seems to be from when he was around 35 years old, so I didn't know he was 76 at the time of the audio I was listening to. But then once I realized his age and where he grew up, it all made sense.
I was thrown off because I was expecting to hear an authoritative, snide, smug, arrogant, nutrition know it all snake oil seller because that's how most people who do nutrition/health interviews are. But what I heard was just the opposite.
Danny Roddy once said "Peat is the grandpa I've always wanted," look at the waybackmachine archive of dannyroddy.com. But I get why he said that. There's a certain part of American culture where Grandparents are cherished in a special way. Watch old TV shows from the 50's and you'll see this. There's a special kind of "Look what Grandpa taught me Ma!" kind of characterisitcs of American culture. I was lucky enough to spend the first few years of my life with my great-grandparents, and my great grandfather fought in WW2. I cherish the memories of him teaching me about different things, or simply just throwing a baseball with him. Peat once mentioned one of his cousins who was a "ball player" meaning baseball player, in one of the audio interviews, another sign of his American culture.
"I had put a tablespoonful of coconut oil on some rice I had for supper, and half an hour later while I was reading, I noticed I was breathing more deeply than normal." - RP
The fact that Ray used the word "supper" shows exactly what I'm talking about. Only people who come from Peat's era use the word "supper."
Even Matt Stone of 180degreehealth once wrote in one of his books that the reason he lives in Florida is so that he can spend time with his grandpa who lives there. Americans who were born pre 1990 know exactly what I'm talking about.
Outside of default American English, there are only about 5 American regional accents: Boston/New England, New York City/New Jersey, Chicago/Upper mid West, The South, and Hawaiian Pidgin. Everyone else does not have an accent. The surfer/stoner dude or the ditzy valley girl are characters of that person and not a regional accent. There are people from all over the country who can have that character.
So besides regional accents, there are generational, tones, I guess would be a good word. Since there is no California or Oregon accent, Ray just has his generational tone.
Peat's not odd. Listen to Americans his age and you'll see that in general conversation they sound just like him; polite, friendly, non-authoritarian, with wisdom and wit. Combine that culture of a person with a brilliant scientist and artist and you get Ray Peat.