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I was just talking about planting more fruit trees in my backyard, to a couple of people today, but I am just not sure if it is worth my larger water bill each month, and I have too many critters that would eat the fruit. I think I am just going seek out someone selling fruits they have canned, in glass mason jars.
Yes, one of the good things about living in a more Northern climate and in suburbia, fewer critters. I have put bone sauce on my fruit trees to keep the rabbits from random nasty pruning and collaring the trees. I used dormant oil for the first year this year in the hope that my apples are less buggy/wormy.
Thank you for taking the time to explain...
Hi Elie!
Thank you. I will check out that post..
Hi Elie!
When I was heavy on the milk and meat with occasional starches, there was no deficit for my body to do anything, but maintain where it was at. Lowering fat helped get the ball rolling, but eliminating the heavy evening meal helped immensely, as did upping the calcium via milk. I find a little starch and fat to be more effective in losing weight than meat at night. Eating the bulk of my protein during the day with extra sugar sources keeps my energy up. If you are still hungry during the day, drink more milk and honey. Carefully choosing starches has enabled me to eat more of them without hindering my digestion, energy and sleep. I avoid hard to digest things at night like lettuce, raw fruit, nuts, meat and certain grains. I choose grains that are sprouted or low in carbs, maybe a buttered sweet roll made with coconut oil with only 15 starch carbs rather than rice. I choose the less starchy baby potatoes and boil the starch out of them rather than steam or roast them. My success I attribute to strategy more than avoidance. My thread linked below is my thoughts on that matter. The thing that you said that starch makes you feel fuller is the problem, we aren’t suppose to feel full, we are suppose to feel satisfied, and that situation is from the cravings, blood sugar drops and the obsession that is created around food. A healthy hungry is wonderful, and what you should strive for, not full.
WEIGHING STARCHES CAREFULLY (w/pics)
"By present and past statements of the American Dietetic Association, I think some kind of institutional brain defect might account for their recommendations. Although the dietetic association now feebly acknowledges that sugars don't raise the blood sugar more quickly than starches do, they...raypeatforum.com
In my sleep thread I talk about foods that are good for sleep and foods that are not, so you are wise to take your sleep into consideration. Sleeping well, finally, was another huge piece of my fat loss puzzle. Here is my link to the trials and errors I went through, as well as others, to getting our sleep issues resolved.
I love pictures! Your other before and after pics in my “Lose Fat Not Pounds” thread really showed your progress! Your plan of attack with the foods is EXACTLY what I did. I am gonna say it again, be careful about the evening meals. I am rooting for you girl!
Thank you!! I had a big glass of orange juice and a very salty boiled egg for early dinner. In a couple hours I'm having a little bit of low fat ice "cream" with some stewed apples. Today went well. Once I have a plan, it's so much easier to take action.
I am glad you took that meat out tonight. I like this night’s meal of yours. It is what I would be having. I am right behind you, having just squeezed, and strained, four sweet oranges. It sure doesn’t look like much in this giant glass, but it was a cups worth!
what would you consider a good target as far as fat intake goes and calorie deficit go?
I did not count calories, and went by my hunger cues. Some days I wasn’t as hungry as other days. I just used less butter, skimmed my milk or blended whole raw milk with skimmed, didn’t eat much cheese, since it really is not satiating like the same amount of protein in milk, and is easy to eat too much of. I used raw honey between meals which helped me a lot, just having a spoonful of it and following it down with a half cup of milk.
Helpful. thank you.
I lost weight, before ever finding Ray Peat, with less than 50 grams of fat. With fat low I don’t think the calories matter, as much as what they are made of do. Calories from protein at night, especially from meat is going to be more of a problem than milk. So I am not a believer of just calories mattering. Timing of foods made things easier for me to lose fat. If you eat a starch it is going to be converted to sugar for energy anyway, so why slow the body down having spend energy converting it, when you could just eat a spoonful of honey instead? The other thing that really makes a difference in my body quickly digesting my meals is keeping my liquids separate from my solids. Liquids dilute the digestive juices. So if I eat meat or starches I keep my liquids away from that meal for awhile, unless it is coffee or black tea, both with sugar, but no milk or juices.
I love that Elie! I enjoy feeling I am needed or part of something important or good.
Do you be it is possible to become depleted in unsaturated fats @Rinse & rePeat?
I don’t think we could be totally depleted, since everything has PUFA to some degree, and our body stores the PUFA, and uses the better fats first. One would have to have zero body fat to be totally depleted I would think.
