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Heart Pounding Palpitations From Thyroid Supplement Log
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kiran said:
That helps, a little.
narouz said:
Well my other theory is that the NDT is definitely working right, and it has made me much more sensitive to adrenaline like its supposed to. I was off NDT for a couple weeks, but then got back on it, now I have been off of it about a week now. So it has not been too long since I have been off it.
And I dont have any problems with temps right now. Only pulse is lagging like usual. So maybe because of that, I can rule out the RT3 and go back to the too much thyroid theory?
Combie said:
I do, just do not know how legit the product is.
narouz said:I did the Iodoral thing too.
It seemed so reasonable to me at the time.
Guilty as charged.
It's been exactly 2 days from when the hard beating heart stopped. Pretty much when I wrote Ray Peat right after that it stopped.
Starting back up thyroid today, 1/16th of a pill, twice a day, of the nutri-meds porcine pills.
Noticed that my energy has been less that last few days. And, weird thing, soon as I the hard heart beat stopped, I had 2 terrible nights of sleep. Not sure if it's connected.
Starting back up thyroid today, 1/16th of a pill, twice a day, of the nutri-meds porcine pills.
Noticed that my energy has been less that last few days. And, weird thing, soon as I the hard heart beat stopped, I had 2 terrible nights of sleep. Not sure if it's connected.
Ok, so pounding heart stopped. At the same time, I start having the, when I go to sleep, I jerk right back awake. Now, I am not sure if this is from the B6 I took again(which I dont think it is because of B6 just wanted to state the possibility), or, if my body is upping the adrenaline to preserve the current metabolic rate I have. I know for a fact, my metabolic rate is sliding backwards since stopping thyroid. My energy is going down and down and down, sleep, slowly becoming worse. So, I have to assume, that this hard heart beat, is actually, a normal state of heart beat. Because, I would get really great sleep when all that hard hear beat stuff was happening. I would have a harder time going to sleep, but I think that was just anxiety and some fear of the hard heart beat, but once I was asleep, it was like a coma state, freaking out like a light!
I have resumed thyroid supplementing like I said earlier. This is the 3rd day back on, and today, the hard heart beat slightly started back up. But, I do not feel stressed about it. So, gonna ride it out for now.
I have resumed thyroid supplementing like I said earlier. This is the 3rd day back on, and today, the hard heart beat slightly started back up. But, I do not feel stressed about it. So, gonna ride it out for now.
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I've been having the heart palpitations (feeling every heartbeat hard) more or less since I started a general Peat-inspired diet, particularly when I added in the quart of milk and OJ I think. No thyroid supplements ever.
Sort of lived with them for the past 2-3 months even though I've been to the doc a few times, they couldn't see anything out of the ordinary aside from respiratory arrythmia but they say that's normal.
Mine are peculiar though, sometimes the heart rate goes up, sometimes it doesn't. But aside from just the heartbeats, I have this constant unnerving feeling in my chest that doesn't let me relax. IT feels almost exactly the same as when you get scared, or someone is about to call your name out etc. Anxiety / adrenaline related I think. It is there in varying intensities the whole day.
I've reduced the liquids since yesterday as I think I am overhydrating myself and messing up my electrolytes. I felt better yesterday evening and today the "chest anxiety" came back really hard and the palpitations are on-off. I am trying to see if its related to any foods. I will stop drinking everything except water for a while.
Can't really live with this anymore.
Sort of lived with them for the past 2-3 months even though I've been to the doc a few times, they couldn't see anything out of the ordinary aside from respiratory arrythmia but they say that's normal.
Mine are peculiar though, sometimes the heart rate goes up, sometimes it doesn't. But aside from just the heartbeats, I have this constant unnerving feeling in my chest that doesn't let me relax. IT feels almost exactly the same as when you get scared, or someone is about to call your name out etc. Anxiety / adrenaline related I think. It is there in varying intensities the whole day.
I've reduced the liquids since yesterday as I think I am overhydrating myself and messing up my electrolytes. I felt better yesterday evening and today the "chest anxiety" came back really hard and the palpitations are on-off. I am trying to see if its related to any foods. I will stop drinking everything except water for a while.
Can't really live with this anymore.
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P.S. I forgot to mention I another thing I am also experiencing.
It feels like a weak hit or rush in your chest, where you were expecting something to happen (probably a normal heartbeat), and then half a second later comes the actual heartbeat. So it's almost like a premonition of a heartbeat that you can feel.
Those may be the "premature atrial contractions" mentioned earlier here. I wonder if Taurine would help me too.
It feels like a weak hit or rush in your chest, where you were expecting something to happen (probably a normal heartbeat), and then half a second later comes the actual heartbeat. So it's almost like a premonition of a heartbeat that you can feel.
Those may be the "premature atrial contractions" mentioned earlier here. I wonder if Taurine would help me too.
Charlie-
I was wondering what going on with your hard heart pounding and thyroid strategy these days.
I think I'm subscribed to this thread, but...I see I've missed some reports.
Did you ever get any Cytomel or Cynomel--the straight T3?
I remember you were thinking about trying that,
under the theory that you had too much T4
(and therefore I guess too much RT3) built up in your system.
Ray-Z has a similar view and approach.
I got my T3 and have been experimenting very cautiously.
Oddly enough, even when I take what would seem like it should be a maximum healthy dose
(by Peat's way of looking at it)
of about 4-5mcg every hour or so
(which is what Peat says humans normally make)
...my metabolism (pulse and temps) are well down.
You'd think I would really respond strongly to straight T3, right?
Well...I'm gonna increase my dosage and see what happens.
I'm doing this as a way of trying to see if there's anything to the theory of
clearing excess, metabolically suppressive T4 (begetting RT3).
I mean, if there's anything to that theory in my case.
On a related note,
I was reading some stuff by this Dr. John Lowe
because he was a big proponent of some hypo's taking only T3.
I didn't come away with an opinion pro or con about the little bit of stuff I read by him,
but this passage from an interview with him made me think of you and you HHP:
I was wondering what going on with your hard heart pounding and thyroid strategy these days.
I think I'm subscribed to this thread, but...I see I've missed some reports.
Did you ever get any Cytomel or Cynomel--the straight T3?
I remember you were thinking about trying that,
under the theory that you had too much T4
(and therefore I guess too much RT3) built up in your system.
Ray-Z has a similar view and approach.
I got my T3 and have been experimenting very cautiously.
Oddly enough, even when I take what would seem like it should be a maximum healthy dose
(by Peat's way of looking at it)
of about 4-5mcg every hour or so
(which is what Peat says humans normally make)
...my metabolism (pulse and temps) are well down.
You'd think I would really respond strongly to straight T3, right?
Well...I'm gonna increase my dosage and see what happens.
I'm doing this as a way of trying to see if there's anything to the theory of
clearing excess, metabolically suppressive T4 (begetting RT3).
I mean, if there's anything to that theory in my case.
On a related note,
I was reading some stuff by this Dr. John Lowe
because he was a big proponent of some hypo's taking only T3.
I didn't come away with an opinion pro or con about the little bit of stuff I read by him,
but this passage from an interview with him made me think of you and you HHP:
http://toopoopedtoparticipate.com/blog/dr-john-c-lowe-speaks/
Well holy moly narouz. That statement by Dr. John sounds like exactly what is happening to me. FFS, I am alive!!!! 
So yeh, I do think, I am just simply not use to my heart beating as it should.
I skipped the T3 narouz because I simply need to be careful with my funds right now and having to be picky about what I do. Also, I was really thinking hard about what Dr Peat said about people finally feeling their heart beat. I wanted to believe, that what was happening to me was normal. So now, I have been supplementing about 9 or so days. I am taking 1/4 of the nutrimeds, basically, just to get rid of it, and taking 1/8th of a pill for lunch and breakfast, and 1/16th of a pill at bedtime of the thiroyd. The last couple of days I can slightly feel my heart beating harder, and I welcome it, so this time, its a lot less stressful.
After being off about 2 weeks of thyroid, trying to get this hard beating heart to go away, I was slowly slipping back down into the hole. I wanted to cry. Was feeling really tired, at night, when I would fall asleep, I would yank back awake violently, and then, I wouldnt sleep good. I would also have to pee many times at night. I could totally feel and understand what was happening to me. My metabolism was slowly dipping, and adrenaline/cortisol was rising trying to keep my metabolism up. Now, about 9 days in of taking thyroid, I feel my energy coming back, sleep is much better only waking up once a night now, but I expect to be back to 8-9 hour uninterrupted sleep nights soon. No more jerking violently awake. The hard beating heart(I will learn to call it normal soon enough!
) feels like its trying to come back, yay! So I am now back on the right track.
I am learning so much about myself through this process its just really all so cool. Watching how I was slowly dipping back into the hole was a bit depressing, but hey, its a process I need to be able to notice so I can adjust my thyroid supplementing if need be. And now, watching myself come out of the hole, coming back to life, coming out of a state of hibernation, is the cats meow.
So yeh, I do think, I am just simply not use to my heart beating as it should.
I skipped the T3 narouz because I simply need to be careful with my funds right now and having to be picky about what I do. Also, I was really thinking hard about what Dr Peat said about people finally feeling their heart beat. I wanted to believe, that what was happening to me was normal. So now, I have been supplementing about 9 or so days. I am taking 1/4 of the nutrimeds, basically, just to get rid of it, and taking 1/8th of a pill for lunch and breakfast, and 1/16th of a pill at bedtime of the thiroyd. The last couple of days I can slightly feel my heart beating harder, and I welcome it, so this time, its a lot less stressful.
After being off about 2 weeks of thyroid, trying to get this hard beating heart to go away, I was slowly slipping back down into the hole. I wanted to cry. Was feeling really tired, at night, when I would fall asleep, I would yank back awake violently, and then, I wouldnt sleep good. I would also have to pee many times at night. I could totally feel and understand what was happening to me. My metabolism was slowly dipping, and adrenaline/cortisol was rising trying to keep my metabolism up. Now, about 9 days in of taking thyroid, I feel my energy coming back, sleep is much better only waking up once a night now, but I expect to be back to 8-9 hour uninterrupted sleep nights soon. No more jerking violently awake. The hard beating heart(I will learn to call it normal soon enough!
) feels like its trying to come back, yay! So I am now back on the right track. I am learning so much about myself through this process its just really all so cool. Watching how I was slowly dipping back into the hole was a bit depressing, but hey, its a process I need to be able to notice so I can adjust my thyroid supplementing if need be. And now, watching myself come out of the hole, coming back to life, coming out of a state of hibernation, is the cats meow.
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