Experience with dissolving DHT or Testosterone in a vitamin E based solution

[Santosh]

Glad I could help!

I mostly apply on Scrotum, sometimes on shoulders

A side point, I haven't noticed any skin burns with this solution, probably because of vitamin E. 100% Ethanol solution would probably cause skin burns/rash

Lastly please remember to use Solgar Vitamin E. I used others and didn't get much absorption. If you don't have access to Solgar try NOW Vitamin E liquid

Would you say the skin penetration is better with 50% vitamin E oil + 50% ethanol than 50% MCT oil + 50% ethanol ?

 

[Aby_2021]

Would you say the skin penetration is better with 50% vitamin E oil + 50% ethanol than 50% MCT oil + 50% ethanol ?

Not sure tbh

I'm getting pretty good absorption with Vitamin E, so I don't think I'll experiment with MCT as I'll have to redo the expensive bloodwork to check the absorption levels

 

[Nebula]

Glad I could help!

I mostly apply on Scrotum, sometimes on shoulders

A side point, I haven't noticed any skin burns with this solution, probably because of vitamin E. 100% Ethanol solution would probably cause skin burns/rash

Lastly I

Is this the Vitamin E you're using?

Liquid Vitamin E (with dropper) - Beauty - Solgar

Vitamin E is an important, essential nutrient that is crucial for good health.* It is the body’s primary fat-soluble antioxidant and appears naturally in several variant forms, called tocopherols. It is found in most vegetable oils, wheat germ, raw seeds and nuts, eggs, leafy vegetables and...

www.solgar.com

I noticed it contains safflower and vegetable oil. I wonder if unsaturated oils are better at skin penetration and maybe the tiny amount involved is inconsequential. I used a vitamin D liquid topically before that used sunflower oil. I noticed more potent effects than olive or mct oil formulations.

 

[Risingfire]

I tried to dissolve DHT into vitamin E(tocovit) but it didn't dissolve well. Ethanol or DSMO seem to work better

 

[Aby_2021]

Is this the Vitamin E you're using?

Liquid Vitamin E (with dropper) - Beauty - Solgar

Vitamin E is an important, essential nutrient that is crucial for good health.* It is the body’s primary fat-soluble antioxidant and appears naturally in several variant forms, called tocopherols. It is found in most vegetable oils, wheat germ, raw seeds and nuts, eggs, leafy vegetables and...

www.solgar.com

I noticed it contains safflower and vegetable oil. I wonder if unsaturated oils are better at skin penetration and maybe the tiny amount involved is inconsequential. I used a vitamin D liquid topically before that used sunflower oil. I noticed more potent effects than olive or mct oil formulations.

Yes, this is the one

Not sure if unsaturated oils are causing better absorption tbh. But I wouldn't worry about such a tiny amount of PUFA for the benefits of much better absorption. You can try absorbing in MCT, I've never tried that so not too sure about it

 

[Aby_2021]

I tried to dissolve DHT into vitamin E(tocovit) but it didn't dissolve well. Ethanol or DSMO seem to work better

Not every Vitamin E is the same.

Check this out, the left bottle is the one with Solgar Vitamin E vs the right one was another brand.

DMSO or Ethanol on its own would cause skin irritation. At least that's my experience so far

 

[Santosh]

I tried to dissolve DHT into vitamin E(tocovit) but it didn't dissolve well. Ethanol or DSMO seem to work better

It's not one or the other. You have to add a solvent such as ethanol to any oil.

No androgen will ever dissolve in tocopherol oil only.

 

[Risingfire]

Not every Vitamin E is the same.

Check this out, the left bottle is the one with Solgar Vitamin E vs the right one was another brand.

DMSO or Ethanol on its own would cause skin irritation. At least that's my experience so far

I'd agree and I wouldn't want to use most vitamin E's that are soy based

 

[Risingfire]

It's not one or the other. You have to add a solvent such as ethanol to any oil.

No androgen will ever dissolve in tocopherol oil only.

Santosh, do you have experience in this matter. I'm an amateur

 

[Nebula]

I added 50ml of 95% Ethanol and Vitamin E (each) in a bottle i.e. 100ml in total. And then added 10g of Test Base to this solution.

I shook the bottle after every 30 mins for 4 to 5 times, and it fully dissolved. I didn't need to heat it at all

As an example, If you're preparing 10% test solution , you would start with 20ml of Vitamin E + Ethanol solution (10ml of each) and add 2g testosterone base to it. Thus each ml will be 100mg

Hope this makes sense

Can denatured ethanol be used for topical formulations like this?

 

[Aby_2021]

Can denatured ethanol be used for topical formulations like this?

I used food grade ethanol. Not sure if denatured would work as well

Perhaps someone else can comment?

 

[ecstatichamster]

I used food grade ethanol. Not sure if denatured would work as well

Perhaps someone else can comment?

the denaturant is a little or a lot poisonous, so maybe not a good idea.

 

[Nebula]

@ecstatichamster
@Aby_2021
Thanks 190 proof vodka was recently banned in my state. Do you know of any other good sources for food grade ethanol?

 

[Metabolism_Red]

@ecstatichamster
@Aby_2021
Thanks 190 proof vodka was recently banned in my state. Do you know of any other good sources for food grade ethanol?

Is this a good ethanol product?

for mixing with test and dht powders? anyone buy this one? https://science.bio/product/ethanol-solvent-50ml/

raypeatforum.com

 

[ecstatichamster]

looks good

 

[hyperion1441]

@Aby_2021 I could not get the Solgar and Everclear to mix. Can you detail your steps in order to get them to mix? I added 50ml solgar to a 120 ml bottle followed by 50ml of Everclear, and no matter what I did, they formed two distinct phases. No amount of heating or vigorous shaking was able to get them to combine.

 

[Miggie]

Appearantly test decanoate is supposed to be hair safer due to its downstream conversion. Have any of you trialed doing topical test with esters attached to it? its supposed to be better for muscle growth as well.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql7A5hlOXtI&t=5s&ab_channel=TaeianClark

 

[JCub369]

Appearantly test decanoate is supposed to be hair safer due to its downstream conversion. Have any of you trialed doing topical test with esters attached to it? its supposed to be better for muscle growth as well.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql7A5hlOXtI&t=5s&ab_channel=TaeianClark

Esters do not dissolve well in DMSO from what I have read on the forums. So if anyone has any suggestions on a formula with high solubility with esters let us know.