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TyroMix - Liquid T3/T4 For Lab/research Use

Discussion in 'IdeaLabs' started by haidut, Aug 5, 2016.

  1. JonnyCraig

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    Very interesting... so Tyromix is good for your hair...

    Which dosages? How are you dosing? topical? where are you dosing? frequency?
     
  2. Fletcher

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    Topical, rubbing it in to the crease of the elbow. 1 drop 3 times per day.
     
  3. JonnyCraig

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    Thanks Fletcher!

    Are you still finding Tyromix good for your hair?

    Do you notice less shedding and thicker hair effect or just same shedding but hair is looking fuller?

    I am on 100mg/oral progesterone right now, day 5, and shedding has stopped dead in it's tracks! BUT my body temp is very low as usual... :( I have low thyroid for sure. You ever tried progesterone for hair btw?
     
  4. Fletcher

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    Hair is not shedding and has more life in it. I haven't tried progesterone for hair.
     
  5. JonnyCraig

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    I think I had more shedding on tyromix... perhaps ill have to try it again....

    are you certain? any increased shedding at first or not at all???
     
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    Does anybody else's rat experience vivid/lucid dreaming since starting dosing it Tyromix? What would it mean?
     
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    I did. It became more "normal" pretty quickly. But i"ve often not dreamed. I welcome the dreaming. Think it may simply be a return to more normal circadian rhythms.
     
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    I am currently taking 6 drops daily, divided up into 3 doses. So far, it has not yet had an effect on my basal temperature (which remains in the mid 97s). However, my midday temperatures have been consistently 98.6-99.0, whereas it hovered around 98.6 before.
     
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    Thanks for the feedback. if you do any blood tests please share the results.
     
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    It’s on my agenda. That’ll be sometime in the New Year.
     
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    What significance (if any) do you think there would be to applying tyromix to the throat in the vicinity of the thyroid gland itself?
     
  12. JonnyCraig

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    I may play around with this now... and now go over 1 drop.

    I think I got carried away with dosage before.. and it caused shedding (although I felt fantastic).

    I think there's a balance.
     
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    How is hair?? still good on tyromix at 3 drops a day????
     
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    I heard you mention of a 1:3 or even 1:2 T3 to T4 ratio as more optimal than a 1 to 4 ratio. When would the 1:2 be preferred to 1:3; is it only in a particular type of person (older for example), or would it also be preferred in a younger person?

    Dr. Peat: "Women and older people generally have reduced conversion of T4 to T3, but anyone with liver malfunction is similar."
     
  15. Fletcher

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    Hair is still better on Tyromix
     
  16. JonnyCraig

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    Thanks Mr. Fletcher.

    :)
     
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    Hi Dave,

    May I ask why you were using T3-only at one point and now you are on Tyromix, correct? why exactly?
     
  18. DaveFoster

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    I felt initially good on T3 only, but after a short while it lost its effectiveness, and I became hypothyroid easily and could not recover without taking large amounts of T3 (which made me anxious due to the fear of becoming dangerously hyperthyroid, and it still failed to guard my mental state against stress.)

    Ecstatichamster reported a similar experience with T3, and Dr. Peat has mentioned something similar. T4 adds some stability to the conversion into T3, where the liver regulates the circulating T4 and tissues can metabolize it into T3 as needed.

    You'll find a minority of people who do well on T3 without T4, and most function best on both.
     
  19. JonnyCraig

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    That is extremely interesting and excellent info to know, thanks Dave!

    Right now everyone is seemingly on T3 as it's all the rage due to no chance to raise RT3... but... well, there's entire debates on RT3, as well. :)
     
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    No problem. Read the second part of my post above, as I updated it. In the elderly and in those with estrogen dominance (for whatever reason), T4 by itself or even NDT or a synthetic T3:T4 1 to 4 ratio can elevate RT3, but with a T3 to T4 ratio of 1 to 3 the chance reduces significantly, and further with a ratio of 1 to 2 the chance becomes very unlikely.

    Caffeine can aid the T3 to T4 conversion, as can most things that support liver function (taurine, vitamin E, progesterone, pregnenolone, thiamine, aspirin and so on), but simply shifting the T3 to T4 ratio in favor of T3 until lab tests show minimal RT3 conversion can be enough to guarantee strong thyroid function in the context of a good diet.
     
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