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Glad your improving your healthOh yes I include all those foods I am very healthy just love to expirement :)
I continued eating raw meat once or twice weekly, and my health gradually increased. Whenever I experienced detoxification, healing was always a progress toward better functionality. I did not deteriorate as most people do on cooked foods or meatless raw foods. I knew I was on the right track by eating raw meat, but I could not set aside the bacteria and parasite phobias. I was especially concerned because the vagus nerve to my stomach had been severed in surgery for stomach cancer. I had no hydrochloric acid to dissolve and annihilate bacteria and parasites upon entering my body. Science and medicine put me in the category of octogenarians who they say, are in danger of death from bacterial and parasitic invasion from lack of hydrochloric acid in the stomach. I continued to eat meat anyway.
In my 35 year I misidentified a poisonous mushroom and ate it. It was the deadliest amanita mushroom, the 'death cap'. I ate enough to kill people my size. My cancers returned twice as bad as they had ever been, and it destroyed 90% of my liver. Along with severe liver-pain, extreme weight loss. and body cramps, my diabetes returned. Every book on the death cap mushroom said that death came within 10 days and it was welcomed. No one in written history had survived after eating 1/15 the amount I had. I was a semi-invalid again. I healed slowly by eating plenty of raw fat. Too slowly. After 1 1/2 years of healing I began eating meats almost daily, including beef, lamb, buffalo, seafood and organically grown fowl. Healing time doubled and diabetes vanished. But it took me 6 1/2 years to recover to a somewhat balanced state of being and my cancers to reenter remission for the third time. It took 11 years to recover to where I had been before I consumed the poisonous mushroom. But I recovered completely.
After 12 years eating raw meat and never having had any more than a little diarrhea that might have been associated with it, I learned to relax and not fear raw foodborne bacteria and parasites. It seemed to me - at that point - that all of that hullabaloo about raw food borne bacteria and parasites was superstitious like the witch hunt of old times. My research showed that the FDA's research on foodborne bacterial illness, 24-81 million cases a year, stated that over 96% were cooked and processed canned and bottled food related. Raw was getting the rap, but cooked and processed were the culprits.
I experimented and found that raw foods soured and/or spoiled with lots of bacterial activity but did not putrefy. Only cooked and processed food putrefied. Only cooked and processed foods contained lipid oxides and disease producing protein toxins. The worst that soured and spoiled raw food caused sometimes was nausea and diarrhea with occasional cramps and fever and, rarely, a little blood in the stool - whereas cooked and processed putrefied food often caused such severe poisoning that lives were lost or near death.
It seems to me that science and medicine are in total denial or that they are protecting the processed food industry and restaurants.
My nutritional career unofficially began in 1969. Since I hadn't died in 1961 when doctors said I would. I thought that I had had some answers to better health. In 1969 I began advising and suggesting healing methodologies for people, especially particulars about diet.
Now that I look back on my life, I wonder how I could have been so confident, even arrogant, to advise anyone with the little knowledge and experience that I had. I knew a lot about disease but little about health and healing. I seemed to have a fairly good intuition for it.
However, I adhered to certain idealistic concepts that interfered and sabotaged my intuition. I misled people into veganism and/or fruitarianisin because I believed that all meat was poisonous and bad karma. I didn't realize that something had to be killed to sustain life whether animal, vegetable or fruit. That is a law of this planet. I did not realize that only cooked meats contained poisons (i.e. lipid oxides and protein toxins). In my early years as a nutritionist I helped many and hurt many. Because my help was always greater than my mishaps, I continued to counsel.
After I learned about the tremendous properties of raw fats my successes reached 60%. After I learned about the fantastic healing characteristics of eating raw meat, my successes with disease rose to 75%. After I learned the techniques for amounts and particulars that certain foods had, my successes reached 85% and better, depending upon the disease.
Occasionally there was relatively immediate healing. Most often though, healing requires time to build strength, detoxify and regenerate.
The fact of healing according to Dr. F. Pottenger's work is that it takes 5 generations to achieve optimal health.
It takes approximately 10 days to replace every cell (one generation) in the blood, 2 1/2 years to replace one generation (every cell) of glands. Approximately 4 1/2 years to replace one generation of arteries, approximately 5 years to replace one generation of intestines and tendons, approximately 6 years to replace one generation of cartilage, and approximately 7 1/2 years to replace one generation of bone.
Therefore, to achieve one's optimal health in a particular body part, it takes 5 generations: that is 7 weeks for the blood, 2 years for glands, 22 1/2 years for the arteries, 25 years for intestines and tendons, 30 years for cartilage, and 37 1/2 years for bone. Usually, healing enough to stop disturbing pain can he achieved during the first generation of healing.
Many of our members are Natural Hygienists and have chosen to eat a vegetarian (vegan and raw primarily) diet. Many fast on occasion to allow their body to eliminate the toxic condition from daily stress. How do you view this practice of fasting and what experiences or data could you share with us on these views?
I have completed approximately 75 fasts from 1969-1981 of various lengths -- many 1-day-a-week fasts, several 5-day, 10-day and 15-day fasts. One 31-day fast and one 41-day fast. During 60% of them I drank water only with no cheating ever. During 40% I drank all or some of my urine and a little water.
During the 41-day fast I drank all of my urine and a little water. Each one, including 1-day fasts was difficult. The easier of the long-term fasts was the 41-day drinking urine because of the nutrients in the urine. Urine is the blood with most of the red blood cells removed and a little ammonium added by the kidneys. During the 41-day fast (I should call it a urine feast) I lost the least amount of weight and energy, had the fewest headaches and had better disposition but my breath was atrocious all of the time.
The 31-day fast on water only I did at age 27. It took me 2 1/2 years to regain my equilibrium. The last intellectually motivated fast I did at age 33 - the 41-day urine fast. It took me 1 1/2 years to regain my strength.
I found that fasting longer than 3 days was impossible without daily enemas to dilute the toxins in the bowels. Enemas destroyed the bacteria that is the major constituent of feces but so did the toxicity from fasting. I had constant headaches, depression, anxiety and nausea without enemas.
I stopped fasting when I realized that the side effects of forced-fasting were greater than the benefits. The benefit of ketosis, cellular cannibalism, which usually occurs within 12 hours of fasting is that it reduces the overpopulation of sluggish cells, leaving the stronger cells and those that overproduce prostaglandins. This is a process of mass genocide via cannibalism. The deleterious effects are that blood maintains a higher acid ratio weakening and damaging red blood cells and their ability to transport oxygen.
If fasting continues beyond 2 days severe blood-fat deficiency occurs. The body leeches fats from the lymph system and cells to maintain it. This fat- leeching weakens the immune system.
Another deleterious effect of fasting is that the necessary bacteria level in the intestines diminishes. Since 60-90% of fecal matter is born of bacteria, constipation results and severely diminishes bacterial synthesis of B vitamins and amino acids. This further weakens and diminishes the immune system.
Another side effect from fasts, resulting from blood-fat end lymph deficiencies is that many toxins from either industrial pollution or natural by-products of metabolism are freed. They irritate, burn and often imbed in the stronger cells, therefore weakening them. Fat, especially in lymph, usually binds with toxins and either neutralizes or escorts them out of the body through the mucus mem- branes, skin or bowels. If great collections of these toxins occur during fasting, kidney damage results. These side-effects usually create edema, especially when eating is resumed. The body often tries to dilute the toxins when it does not have enough fat to chelate and remove them. Mutations some-times result.
My conclusion after 13 years experience and research with intellectually motivated fasts is that fasts are often more deleterious than helpful. They may have their place, but I won t gamble with people's lives using fasts as therapy.
When certain situations are favorable and if an individual has no appetite, I may suggest that they fast until hungry. However, if the individual is anorexic, I do not suggest that they fast.
I have replaced fasts with a formula of raw vegetable juices (rarely fruit juices) and raw eggs. This supplies the nutrients to form solvents to remove toxicity and the fats necessary to eliminate them from the body. It is not as dramatic an experience, but it works well, and more people are able to do it and still function.
You say that fasting weakens the immune system, but Shelton and others noticed just the opposite - that colds/flus/infections in progress would cease within a few days of starting a fast, and that new ones would never occur.
Concluding that because colds and flus often cease during fasts does not mean that health is improved. It has been my experience that colds and flus and all other diseases are detoxification. I have experienced and observed that colds and flus often ceased during fasts because the body could no longer tolerate such major detoxification. Some detoxification continued to occur during fasts, however it was mainly the tremendous toxicity from the body cannibalism (acidosis). Weaker cells are consumed to feed healthier cells. Fasts force the survival-of-the-fittest reality as in most starved species. This in consequence creates a somewhat healthier body because it eliminates so many weaker and decaying cells.
In most circumstances, because the body usually requires much time and nutrients, especially fats and proteins, to detoxify and recover from fasts and because most people do not eat diets that provide proper nutrients, people lack the nutrients necessary to ideally enter regular major detoxification like colds and flus. Especially in our toxic environment bodies need major detoxification regularly.
It is also known that the starving prisoners of nazi death camps were less susceptible to typhoid than their "well-fed" guards. This, if anything, indicates a strengthened not weakened, immune system How do you explain things like this?
I do not attribute increased immunity of typhoid to starving. The high consumption of alcohol and drugs among guards seems to have contributed to the greater susceptibility to typhoid. Starving prisoners died of typhoid.
Your book was very informative about the role of raw animal fats, meat, and eggs for the proper nutritional fuel for our bodies. Would you please tell us what you feel is a proper level of raw animal products in our diet, and how you reached this conclusion?
For each individual the proper ratio of raw animal products may vary. Experience has shown me that over time raw animal products produce the calmest, most balanced human nature with excellent mental clarity.
For the last few years my raw animal products consumption has been approximately 80% by volume of my diet. I restrict high fructose fruit to one a day and almost always eat it with a high fat food such as unsalted raw cheese, raw butter, raw cream, raw milk, raw egg(s), avocado and/or raw coconut.
As an example of the extreme, the Eskimo ate 99% raw animal products and lived free of degenerative disease before white men introduced cooking cauldrons, breads and refined sugar to them. By several accounts of world travelers and explorers they considered the Eskimo the happiest of all races.
Their first case of dental decay was 50 years after cauldrons, breads and refined sugar were introduced. The dental caries only existed among those who ate some or all of white man's food. Cancer never occurred among primitive Eskimo.
I resisted a predominantly animal products diet for fear I would feel dull and sluggish because of the low enzyme and mineral content of feed given to farm animals. When I finally attempted it I felt dull and sluggish.
As a vitamin, enzyme and mineral supplement I introduced 1 quart a day of raw vegetable juice divided into 5 or 6 portions, often adding 1 ounce raw cream, raw milk or raw coconut cream to each portion, or ate a small amount of unsalted raw cheese. The juice perfectly balanced me and prevented the craving for high fructose fruit that resulted from eating animal products.
I avoid the high fructose fruit consumption because it causes manic thought and lack of regular clarity. I eat from 3/4 - 3 lbs of meat almost daily (that is, red meat and/or seafood and/or fowl).
What objective test measurements have you made on yourself before and since starting this raw flesh diet? Do you monitor any bio-markers like pulse rate, blood pressure, body temperature, various blood parameters? If so, what are they? Have you had a bone scan for osteoporosis? If so, with what result?
While I was a raw-food fruitarian/vegan my pulse rate averaged 62, blood pressure averaged 107/70, and body temperature 96.8 deg. I was frequently manic, easily tired or exhausted and quick to be outraged. As a raw-flesh eater my pulse averages 70, blood pressure 127/80 and body temperature 97.7 deg F.
I rarely experience mania or lethargy, easily remain calm, and have at least five times more energy and clarity.
I have not had a bone scan. However, my bones do not easily break as they did when I was a child. I have had several situations where if I had had osteoporosis I would have broken bones but did not. In one situation where had a severe bicycle accident I broke seven bones in my foot. Six hours later after a 14-year old girl set the bones in my foot I walked 3 miles. The next day I bicycled 12 miles. I was completely painless in 2 weeks. My bones healed 3 times faster than the average person. Such skeletal healing does not occur if osteoporosis exists.
One of the effects of eating the raw animal products, I have noticed, is an increased sex drive (without Viagra). You don't mention this specifically in your book (if so, I missed it), however there are several references to the high level of sex that you and your clients enjoy. What are your findings in this area and do you regard sexual energy as a health indicator? While Hygiene does not frown on sex, they do caution that over activity in this area is very enervating and to be avoided. What are your views about what is over activity and its possible harmful effects?
Raw milk could easily replace the cheese no need for cheese if it's causing issue K2 is easily attained in raw animal productsAajonus Vonderplanitz is the man.
I feel also best when eating raw beef, raw eggs, raw butter.
But raw cheese for some reason makes me very nauseous, and gives me the feeling that food is fermenting in my intestine and not going down. I feel very off on it
Would just beef, eggs, butter and veggies take care of most nutrients, or is cheese essential?
Raw milk could easily replace the cheese no need for cheese if it's causing issue K2 is easily attained in raw animal products
Saturated fat don't denature with heat. Protein only slightly so I'm not sure much of a difference it would make. Raw milk and eggs should be much better for androgens that pasteurised and cook milk and eggs.
What cultures eat raw meat?I know but alot of cultures that eat more raw meat and dairy have such little to no disease other factors as well but I mean really meat is so healthy what does cooking actually provide it really just denatures and the parasite idea really is seeming less and less realistic 95 percent food illness is from cooked food
Saturated fat don't denature with heat. Protein only slightly so I'm not sure much of a difference it would make. Raw milk and eggs should be much better for androgens that pasteurised and cook milk and eggs.
Heat do denature the cholesterol, steroids and other beneficial nutrients in those foods.
I eat plenty of saturated fat usually 30-40% of my daily calories then 40% carbs and rest protein. Always feel much more anabolic and stronger than just carbs. Ray peat never said eat only sugar and fruit theres some quote from him even saying fat is good around 30-40% of diet. Obviously with all the androgenic effects from palmitic, stearic acid etc and combined with the mufa oleic etc like in gonadin they synergise and become both androgenic and anabolic. I feel so much better eating some fat and build muscle like twice as fast then just high carbohydrates. No need for it all to be raw but i myself eat lots of raw eggs and organic unhomogenized milk with like 3-5% fat. Not the completely raw version but its as close as i can get and i feel its doing really big difference. Also theres so many other things in meat that are androgenic and anabolic like taurine, creatine, vitamin specially fat soulable like A and K2 plus tocopherols and its a great source of protein and cholesterol. High fat combined with high carb and surplus on daily calories and good exercise routine is the way to go if you want high androgen levels. I believe these changes was what got me from 140 T-level to 920
For proteins: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1541-4337.12243Interesting.
Any study that confirms this?
Exactely my experience. Eating mainly carbs, I feel stressed, anxious, and cold. Increasing my fat percentage to 30-40% almost immediately brought up my temperatures, and quickly relieved most of my hypo symptoms. Saturated fat from goat milk/cheese, beef, and coconut oil makes me feel energized, calm, and warm. A few years ago, Ray told me in an email that getting 30-50% from (saturated) fat seems optimal to him. Studies have shown that relatively high fat intake, and saturated fats increase testosterone while low-fat diets and PUFA decrease it.
J Steroid Biochem. 1984 Jan;20(1):459-64.
Diet and serum sex hormones in healthy men.
Hämäläinen E, Adlercreutz H, Puska P, Pietinen P.
The possible effect of dietary fat content and the ratio of polyunsaturated to saturated fatty acids (P/S-ratio) on serum sex hormones was studied in 30 healthy male volunteers. The customary diet of the subjects, which supplied 40% of energy as fat (mainly from animal sources, P/S-ratio 0.15) was replaced for a 6 weeks period by a practically isocaloric experimental diet containing significantly less fat (25% of energy) with a higher P/S-ratio (1.22) and other environmental factors were stabilized. Serum testosterone and 4-androstenedione decreased from 22.7 +/- 1.1 nmol/l to 19.3 +/- 1.2 nmol/l, (SEM, P less than 0.001) and from 4.6 +/- 0.2 nmol/l to 4.3 +/- 0.2 nmol/l (SEM, P less than 0.01), respectively. These changes were paralleled by a reduction in serum free (non-protein bound) testosterone (P less than 0.01) suggesting a possible change in biological activity. During the low fat period a significant negative correlation between serum prolactin and androgens was observed. All the changes in androgen levels were reversible. With the exception of a small but non-significant decrease in serum estradiol-17 beta, the other hormone parameters were practically unaffected by the dietary manipulation. Our results indicate that in men a decrease in dietary fat content and an increase in the degree of unsaturation of fatty acids reduces the serum concentrations of androstenedione, testosterone and free testosterone. The mechanism and importance of this phenomenon is discussed in the light of epidemiological and experimental data.
I don't eat high sugar, though. I have consistently seen people have extreme weight gain this way, sometimes leading to diabetes.
I don't think our microbiome can thrive on a high sugar high fat diet
I haven't, and I seriously doubt there is anything inherent in the combination of fat and sugar that would promote obesity or even diabetes. As far as macronutrients are concerned, weight gain depends on the number of calories. Why would fat and sucrose make you fat while fat and starch wouldn't?
That would be bad, because all human babies, developing their microbiome, get a high sugar/high-fat diet.
That's another thing the androgens in blood and tissues of animal meat would be denatured by cooking! I think adding raw meat in the diet is logical for preserving what is lost in cooking so muchSaturated fat don't denature with heat. Protein only slightly so I'm not sure much of a difference it would make. Raw milk and eggs should be much better for androgens that pasteurised and cook milk and eggs.
Heat do denature the cholesterol, steroids and other beneficial nutrients in those foods.
That's another thing the androgens in blood and tissues of animal meat would be denatured by cooking! I think adding raw meat in the diet is logical for preserving what is lost in cooking so much
Maybe we cooked our starches and then ate our meat raw...