Meat + Gelatin?

[AinmAnseo]

I see that Ray recommends about 60 g of protein for older folks, like me.
I see that he also recommends about 20 g of gelatin.
So, does he mean 40 g of complete protein (like beef) + 20 g of gelatin (incomplete protein)?
or
Does he mean 60 g of complete protein + 20 g of gelatin?
Paul

 

[mostlylurking]

I see that Ray recommends about 60 g of protein for older folks, like me.
I see that he also recommends about 20 g of gelatin.
So, does he mean 40 g of complete protein (like beef) + 20 g of gelatin (incomplete protein)?
or
Does he mean 60 g of complete protein + 20 g of gelatin?
Paul

I'm pretty sure that Peat considered gelatin a complete protein for adults. It's missing tryptophan which is needed by growing people but not for grown adults. From my reading of Peat's articles, I've come away with the understanding that getting your protein from dairy, gelatin, and eggs is preferable to getting it from muscle meat. He advised trying to avoid muscle meats for several reasons; it's high phosphate, it's high tryptophan, it suppresses thyroid. He just wasn't a fan of it.

go here: bioenergetic search ; search for "muscle meat" also search for "gelatin"

articles:

Gelatin, stress, longevity

Ray Peat

raypeat.com

and

Tryptophan, serotonin, and aging

Beginning with the industrial production of glutamic acid (sold as MSG, monosodium glutamate), the public has been systematically misinformed about the effects of amino acids in the diet.

raypeat.com

and

Meat physiology, stress, and degenerative physiology.

Considerable amounts of some chemicals, such as sodium citrate, are allowed to add to the weight of the meat. The use of ozone and hydrogen peroxide to deodorize meat causes instantaneous oxidative changes, including lipid peroxidation and protein carbonyl formation, as well as increasing water...

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