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Is Too Much Vitamin C Estrogenic?

Discussion in 'Ask For Help or Advice' started by JDreamer, Jul 23, 2017.

  1. sugarbabe

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    No, you are mistaken, the more iron there is reacting in your body the more C you need. As far as copper do more research. Tons of studies on C. I've been studying it for 9 months.
     
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    Yeah, I think Vitamin C, as mentioned on Peak Testosterone, should be taken on an empty belly. It appeared to interact with fats in a bad way, and taking it away from meals ensures no iron is present.
     
  4. sugarbabe

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    I would not take that one study as fact. What were these guys CP before doing the AA? If it was higher than normal that indicates inflammation. So it going down is a good thing. I am in group where people do testing on themselves and have found very large amounts of AA to normalize both copper and iron. Also a few people cured of heart disease. That's miraculous in my opinion when the only thing doctors offer is surgery and drugs.
     
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    Spot on @JackHanma. I think if you are drinking OJ and eating loads of fruit, liver etc. you would be getting plenty of vitamin C. Real Vitamin C as opposed to synthetic non-functional Vitamin C. Ray says smaller amounts are more effective. I use to use vitamin C to neutralise poisoning from eating chocolate (mycotoxins, copper, lead & cadmium) but found drinking OJ + salt + sugar infinately better. Can get rid of horribe headaches from poisoning which would last 1 week, immediately in one day.

    Believe it or not, many ARE using high doses of Vitamin C for iron-overload conditions. Completely over the top, considering milk, coffee, tea and the eating of liver gently and efficiently solves the problem. Supplements remember, are their bread and butter and of course it is going to be pushed - the more the better. Peat before anyone else in alternative health alerted people of the deleterious actions of iron. It was one of the reasons I took an interest in Peat's work. I had studied the mechanisms of bacterial sequestration of iron in infectious disease and its involvement in cancer. When I came across Peat's work, I instantly recognised that he was well read and understood the research at a deeper level than anyone I knew. His comprehension and his ability to connect many mechanisms i.e. estrogen, NO, PUFAs, thyroid etc. has been astounding.

    Peat has never advocated supplementing Vitamin C, while others have us check our pee to make sure we are Vitamin C replete and take it intravenously for every condition under the sun. OJ is powerful enough.
     
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    I think less is more with vitamin C, and I don't imply ascorbic acid in isolation per se. Perhaps a product from a whole food source is better, than corn/hexane derived Chinese stuff. Idk.
     
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    Like I said earlier in this thread, there are freeze dried acerola cherry and camu camu fruit powders on the market with an extremely high vitamin c content. I actually started taking some 2 days ago, just to see if I can feel any effects (around 1000 mg of vitamin c / day). Don't really feel that much different to be honest, maybe in a few days.
     
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    Nice Humans lost their ability to synthesize C due to introducing it exogenously from food.
     
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    Vitamin C is also good for your capillaries
     
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    i think if its bother you, just stop. all of us have slightly different biochemistry.
    hmmm do u take natural vitamin c supplements or the common vitamin c (artificially man made)
     
  11. DenMarker

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    well i am a good example, 1 week after this blog post, i am now in hongkong in asia for work.
    my schedule is pretty bad, cannot have balanced meal, just eating what i can find. can't find my usual chia seeds or vitamin c.
    so if you ask me, i rather eat vitamin c from a pill box rather than no vitamin c.

    of course if i am back in america and able to cook, i will rather cook and eat more fresh vegetables and fruits
     
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    i think sick frequently should have more vitamin c from fruits and vegetables. i googled for bloggers' reviews and i got this review of vitamin c benefits.

    seems like plenty of good stuff from eating vitamin c.
     
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    I don't think there is any clinical or experimental evidence of the "terrible, endless oxidation" that occurred in your thought experiment. In E.D. Weinberg's book, he even states that Vitamin C is beneficial for Iron Overload conditions, but only cautions about using the supplement because it can improve Iron Absorption from meals (which it does by bonding with non-heme iron). Speaking of which....

    The studies you quoted are all single meal studies. I found this long term study, which indicates all sorts of effects. Ferritin could go up, or down, or remain about the same, even when taking two grams per day with meals. If you notice, the three subjects with the highest baseline ferritin levels actually experienced significant drops in ferritin during the experiment.

    http://www.bloodjournal.org/content/bloodjournal/64/3/721.full.pdf?sso-checked=true
     
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