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Using Vitamin C To Treat Coronavirus - Remember, Vitamin C Can't Be Patented, So The System Will Not

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  1. Experienced

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    Using Vitamin C to Treat Coronavirus - Remember, Vitamin C can't be patented, so the system will not recommend it to you, instead they will push a money-spinner on the population




    Some background reading for anyone interested...

    Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, October 12, 2010
    About "Objections" to Vitamin C Therapy

    (OMNS October 12, 2010) In massive doses, vitamin C (ascorbic acid) stops a cold within hours, stops influenza in a day or two, and stops viral pneumonia (pain, fever, cough) in two or three days. (1) It is a highly effective antihistamine, antiviral and antitoxin. It reduces inflammation and lowers fever. Administered intravenously, ascorbate kills cancer cells without harming healthy tissue. Many people therefore wonder, in the face of statements like these, why the medical professions have not embraced vitamin C therapy with open and grateful arms.

    Probably the main roadblock to widespread examination and utilization of this all-too-simple technology is the equally widespread belief that there must be unknown dangers to tens of thousands of milligrams of ascorbic acid. Yet, since the time megascorbate therapy was introduced in the late 1940's by Fred R. Klenner, M.D. (2), there has been an especially safe, and extremely effective track record to follow.

    Still, for some, questions remain. Here is a sample of what readers have asked OMNS about vitamin C:

    Is 2,000 mg/day of vitamin C a megadose? No. Decades ago, Linus Pauling and Irwin Stone showed that most animals make at least that much (or more) per human body weight per day. (3,4)

    Then why has the government set the "Safe Upper Limit for vitamin C at 2,000 mg/day? Perhaps the reason is ignorance. According to nationwide data compiled by the American Association of Poison Control Centers, vitamin C (and the use of any other dietary supplement) does not kill anyone. (5)

    Does vitamin C damage DNA? No. If vitamin C harmed DNA, why do most animals make (not eat, but make) between 2,000 and 10,000 milligrams of vitamin C per human equivalent body weight per day? Evolution would never so favor anything that harms vital genetic material. White blood cells and male reproductive fluids contain unusually high quantities of ascorbate. Living, reproducing systems love vitamin C.

    Does vitamin C cause low blood sugar, B-12 deficiency, birth defects, or infertility? Vitamin C does not cause birth defects, nor infertility, nor miscarriage. "Harmful effects have been mistakenly attributed to vitamin C, including hypoglycemia, rebound scurvy, infertility, mutagenesis, and destruction of vitamin B-12. Health professionals should recognize that vitamin C does not produce these effects." (6)

    Does vitamin C . . . A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled 14 day trial of 3,000 mg per day of vitamin C reported greater frequency of sexual intercourse. The vitamin C group (but not the placebo group) also experienced a quantifiable decrease in depression. This is probably due to the fact that vitamin C "modulates catecholaminergic activity, decreases stress reactivity, approach anxiety and prolactin release, improves vascular function, and increases oxytocin release. These processes are relevant to sexual behavior and mood." (7)

    Does vitamin C cause kidney stones? No. The myth of the vitamin C-caused kidney stone is rivaled in popularity only by the Loch Ness Monster. A factoid-crazy medical media often overlooks the fact that William J. McCormick, M.D., demonstrated that vitamin C actually prevents the formation of kidney stones. He did so in 1946, when he published a paper on the subject. (8) His work was confirmed by University of Alabama professor of medicine Emanuel Cheraskin, M.D.. Dr. Cheraskin showed that vitamin C inhibits the formation of oxalate stones. (9)

    Other research reports that: "Even though a certain part of oxalate in the urine derives from metabolized ascorbic acid, the intake of high doses of vitamin C does not increase the risk of calcium oxalate kidney stones. . . (I)n the large- scale Harvard Prospective Health Professional Follow-Up Study, those groups in the highest quintile of vitamin C intake (greater than 1,500 mg/day) had a lower risk of kidney stones than the groups in the lowest quintiles." (10)

    Dr. Robert F. Cathcart said, "I started using vitamin C in massive doses in patients in 1969. By the time I read that ascorbate should cause kidney stones, I had clinical evidence that it did not cause kidney stones, so I continued prescribing massive doses to patients. Up to 2006, I estimate that I have put 25,000 patients on massive doses of vitamin C and none have developed kidney stones. Two patients who had dropped their doses to 500 mg a day developed calcium oxalate kidney stones. I raised their doses back up to the more massive doses and added magnesium and B-6 to their program and no more kidney stones. I think they developed the kidney stones because they were not taking enough vitamin C."

    Why did Linus Pauling die from cancer if he took all that vitamin C? Linus Pauling, PhD, megadose vitamin C advocate, died in 1994 from prostate cancer. Mayo Clinic cancer researcher Charles G. Moertel, M.D., critic of Pauling and vitamin C, also died in 1994, and also from cancer (lymphoma). Dr. Moertel was 66 years old. Dr. Pauling was 93 years old. One needs to make up ones own mind as to whether this does or does not indicate benefit from vitamin C.

    A review of the subject indicates that "Vitamin C deficiency is common in patients with advanced cancer . . . Patients with low plasma concentrations of vitamin C have a shorter survival." (11)

    Does vitamin C narrow arteries or cause atherosclerosis? Abram Hoffer, M.D., has said: "I have used vitamin C in megadoses with my patients since 1952 and have not seen any cases of heart disease develop even after decades of use. Dr. Robert Cathcart with experience on over 25,000 patients since 1969 has seen no cases of heart disease developing in patients who did not have any when first seen. He added that the thickening of the vessel walls, if true, indicates that the thinning that occurs with age is reversed. . . The fact is that vitamin C decreases plaque formation according to many clinical studies. Some critics ignore the knowledge that thickened arterial walls in the absence of plaque formation indicate that the walls are becoming stronger and therefore less apt to rupture. . . Gokce, Keaney, Frei et al gave patients supplemental vitamin C daily for thirty days and measured blood flow through the arteries. Blood flow increased nearly fifty percent after the single dose and this was sustained after the monthly treatment. (12)."

    What about blood pressure? A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study showed that hypertensive patients taking supplemental vitamin C had lower blood pressure. (13)

    So why the flurry of anti-vitamin-C reporting in the mass media? Negative news gets attention. Negative news sells newspapers, and magazines, and pulls in lots of television viewers. Positive drug studies do get headlines, of course. Positive vitamin studies do not. Is this a conspiracy? You mean with unscrupulous people all sitting around a shaded table in a darkened back room? Of course not. It is nevertheless an enormous public health problem with enormous consequences.

    150 million Americans take supplemental vitamin C every day. This is as much a political issue as a scientific issue. What would happen if everybody took vitamins? Perhaps doctors, hospital administrators and pharmaceutical salespeople would all be lining up for their unemployment checks.

    A skeptic might conclude that there is at least some evidence that the politicians are on the wrong side of this. After all, the US RDA for vitamin C for humans is only 10% of the government's USDA vitamin C standards for Guinea pigs. (14) But conspiracy against nutritional medicine? Certainly not. Couldn't be.


    SOURCE: Using Vitamin C to Treat Coronavirus - Remember, Vitamin C can't be patented, so the system will not recommend it to you, instead they will push a money-spinner on the population : conspiracy
     
  2. methylenewhite

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    Any real studies? Claiming blah blah blah could not be patented blah blah. There are millions of studies on so called non patentable substances. Who says could not be patented actually has no understanding of patent law or bullshiting you. Go google patents and see how many patents are issues for ascorbic acid or combinations for various diseases.
     
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    It's in society not Scientific study category chill the F out.
     
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    I hope you're not trying to make us believe it is a silver bullet, as it's not. It doesn't hurt to take it, but understand vitamin C is limited to its role as an antioxidant, and even when it's used as a pro-oxidant, it still does not address the secondary bacterial infection that results from the primary viral infection, which weakens the immune system.

    In combination with other substances, such as antibiotics that address the secondary opportunistic bacterial aspects, as well as with viral vaccine such as that proposed by Dr. Gershom Zajicek, and immune-boosting practices such as good sleep and good nutrition.

     
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    90% of the people do not read the studies in links just fly with the title or claim.

    "Here is a second opinion. Dr. Cathcart advocates treating influenza with up to 150,000 milligrams of vitamin C daily, often intravenously. You and I can, to some extent, simulate a 24 hour IV of vitamin C by taking it by mouth very, very often. When I had pneumonia, it took 2,000 mg of vitamin C every six minutes, by the clock, to get me to saturation. My oral daily dose was over 100,000 mg. Fever, cough and other symptoms were reduced in hours; complete recovery took just a few days. That is performance at least as good as any pharmaceutical will give, and the vitamin is both safer and cheaper."


    100grams Vit C orally, wow ahaha that is something most would not take, as soon as the diarrhea and acid reflux sets in things will get really hard on your brain.
    Neither will you find any doctor to give you 150grams of Vit C intravenously per each 24hours.
     
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    Obviously you're the one who didn't read. As a person gets sicker they will tolerate more vitamin C, the amount needed before intestinal symptoms come increases as the patient gets sicker.
     
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    Bunch of load of crap.
     
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    Wow thanks for your very intelligent and insightful contributions to this thread
     
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    Ahaha.
    What an instigator.
    You accuse me of not reading it, when the info is straight up from the study and quoted.
    Talk about contribution and intelligence.
     
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    Dr. Cathcart found it both personally and clinically, that when a person is sick, they can take far, far more Vitamin C without getting diarrhea than they can when they are well. He personally states that he can normally take 16 grams a day, but took up to 60 grams when he had a cold-

     
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    i think i have read somewhere that the form Ascorbic hurt the body more a on high doses.
    Ascorbate is more friendly.
     
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    I can confirm, I can handle more ascorbic acid when sick from a bowel tolerance perspective.
     
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    You can easily make sodium ascorbate by mixing ascorbic acid with baking soda in water, 1:1 ratio. It fizzles, the co2 escapes, and then the result is sodium ascorbate which isn't as acidic as ascorbic acid.
     
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    never thought on that. this way is a lot cheaper to. thanks.
     
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    you're welcome :thumbup:
     
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    If you keep your gut in good shape, you should be okay

    Coronavirus: 81% of cases are mild, study says (not the greatest source I Know)

    The biggest problems you will have to worry about are supply disruptions. Buy a couple big bags of rice/oats
     
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    The body consumes the vit.c if you are sick, so the point at which diarrhea sets in can be at 150 gram. And when it happens, usually the disease is conquered. A major part of being sick is the toxic sludge you have developed in your intestines.

    I have had diarrhea from 15 grams and have also had 25 grams without any intestinal discomfort when feeling slightly under.
     
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