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Evidence That Cortisol Really Does Cause Hair Loss

Discussion in 'Hair & Nails' started by ecstatichamster, Oct 20, 2017.

  1. ecstatichamster

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    https://www.researchgate.net/profil...uinea_pigs/links/0046353c6c531d6599000000.pdf

    These results show for the first time that only small amounts of systemically administered radioactive glucocorticoids are deposited in hair of guinea pigs, while measurement of large amounts of unlabeled GCM strongly suggests local production of glucocorticoids in hair follicles​

    So that's basically the interesting part. Cortisol is massively produced in the hair follicles. I was listening to a KMUD interview with Ray, and he was saying that a lot of estrogen is produced in the skin, more than in the ovaries (of course also in men, LOL). I think ditto in the follicles and this probably has a lot to do with hair loss.

    I think we're gonna find that in stress, the hair follicles create a lot of cortisol and estrogen and all the other stress hormones and that this causes hair loss. Pretty much like Danny Roddy has said.

    What is interesting to me is that this occurs on the hair on the head but not on the chin or pubic region.

    I think that most likely, there is a reason for this. Perhaps over the millennia, we have done better as men when we were bald if we were under stress, in order to get more sunlight on her scalp. I'm totally not kidding.
     
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    Interesting. Might lend some credence to why scalp massaging works for some. Massaging and relief of muscular tension has been shown to reduce estrogen and cortisol locally.
     
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    Now that is something I have not heard before. Sounds like an argument for going back to using shampoo :confused:.
     
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    Even if we knew with certainty, seems like we will colonize mars before we reverse hair loss, without castration.
     
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    Doing a hair soak with vinegar and some mct oil can murder them pretty good.
    I did no shampoo for over a year, and didn't really experiance any benefits. Now I scrub with venegar, then wash with coconut oil soap that I make myself from coconut oil and lye.
     
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    Thanks any more advice on the best way to do that or any kind of guide? Just get coconut oil and vinegar and soak my hair in it for a few minutes? I feel like I could make quite a mess of it :laughing:
     
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    The longer fatty acid chains in coconut oil ( including lauric acid ) actually feed the Malassezia, so I think mct oil is best.
    I just mix about 1 tsp of mct oil with 1/2 cup of apple cider vinegar, scrub really well, then wash out with soap. It completely destroyed my dandruff, which hasn't come back since, so I know it works for killing that particular fungus. Does it stop hair loss? I dont know.
     
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    Yeah but all that fuss, has it regrow hair ?
     
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    Probably not. You need some stem cell injections to the dome from Panama.
     
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    Nice, I'm moving to Panama.
     
  12. Joeyd

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    Wouldn't you rather treat the cause of the dandruff, i.e. low vitamin A
     
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    How often do you/did you do this rinse?
     
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    I have a suspicion that besides androgens, the microbiota up there also can change the fate of the stem cells. I don't have knowledge of exactly what's up there, but here is this intersting part
    Thematic review series: Skin Lipids. Sebaceous gland lipids: friend or foe?
    If you search for H. Pylori + C-Myc, it's at least one bacteria able to upregulate it.
    Edit: figure 2 basicly says these pathways either decide that progenitor cell either go seb cell or HF
     
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    So why do you guys want your hair back? You need more cortisol and estrogen and pufa?
     
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    why not try sulfur soap on the scalp instead then?
     
  17. tca300

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    I dont think dandruff is always caused by a vitamin a deficiency, but I dont know.
     
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    I only have done it once, and dandruff hasn't been back since.
     
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    Interesting!
     
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    It would probably work, I just hate that stuff.
     
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