Can't Get Attracted To People Anymore

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    I think a lot of "low estrogen" issues are low dopamine and too much serotonin. Dopamine and excitatory transmission stimulate estrogen and progesterone action, inhibitory transmission stimulates only androgenic action such as in the case of metabolic syndrome (even though overall estrogen is high). Sleep deprivation might help with "low estrogen" symptoms.
     
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    Speaking from experience, I heal and feel much better from sleeping even more. I guess you have a point as I find that's a good summary of the mental effects/chemistry of low estrogen. I felt fine before lowering my estrogen though so I think that came first -> converts/alters the brain chemistry as a result
     
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    I know.

    It can take 6 months or more after you stop. And the important thing is not just stopping. It is rewiring the brain by seeking out partners and spending time with them.

    I have a lot of experience in this area. And perceptions change.

    Congratulations that you have made it several months. If you go take dance lessons, start dating, etc., and continue on this path, in 6 months or so, you won't feel this way. You will feel very interested in people and attracted.
     
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    TRT for life?
     
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    I’ve felt my best after my two one-week fasts.

    Sadly the improved well being only lasted a month
     
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    Likely due to effects that Haidut and others have discussed in regards to protein amino acids (methionine, cysteine, histidine, tryptophan) and also fats (pufas). When you go back to the way you were eating, these problems will come back. That's why I don't think fasting is useful. It's a temporary therapeutic measure but doesn't resolve any issues in your regular diet in the long run, and I'm not interested in frequent fasting. I'd rather devise a diet that prevents the buildup of said problematic amino acids, fats, etc.
     
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    The low estrogen is only temporary, I meant pop some dbol with hcg injections if you’re totally bottomed out
     
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    If you look into NLP you will see that physical health is not everything. People can be very sick with a poor diet and yet still have the ability to completely change their perspectives, given the right tools. I've done it many, many times.

    I see people quite the opposite: everyone is unique. Everyone is an individual, like a universe unto themselves. Infinitely complicated. What we verbalize, what we look like, etc., is only a small part of who we all are. Don't miss the forest for the trees and get hung up on silly ideas like humans are just metabolic machines with no other substance to them.

    Doing so is the same as being cynical and jaded about the universe, as if you understand it inside and out. None of us do; none of us even know the "reason" we're here, and if someone is going to argue that we're here for no reason at all, what evidence could they possibly come up with to prove that argument?

    A lord asked Takuan, a Zen Teacher, to suggest how he might pass the time. He felt his days very long attending his office and sitting stiffly to receive the homage of others.

    Takuan wrote eight Chinese characters and gave them to the man:

    "Not twice this day

    Inch time foot gem.

    This day will not come again.

    Each minute is worth a priceless gem."

    You may find it easier to be attracted to people when you realize they, and you yourself, are all infinitely complex, with no explanation as to why we're here or they're here, and there's no telling when we'll disappear. Each moment you spend with another person is a moment that has never happened in the universe before, and will never happen ever again. Every single second you spend with a person you care about is worth more than all of the wealth in the entire universe multiplied a trillion times over.
     
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    So biological reductionism = hard determinism = nihilism?

    Sounds legit. All to the good. Maybe pretend to believe in the supernatural.
     
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    Too good. You have some really great posts.
     
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    Seems pretty full of despair! Also extremely reductionistic. What's the point of what? Life?
     
  12. Peatful

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    I’ll chime in - for a different opinion:

    I think you possibly hold much wisdom.
    But it’s how you respond to this observation, or this truth to you- is what will make you truly wise and content.

    Look at Solomon (Israeli king: Hebrew Bible, Old Testament, Quran, Hadiths).
    He was incredibly wealthy, and wise- and he kinda concluded what you have...
     
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    This is really beautifully written and said. I can see Dr Peat's spirit through it.

    What if you are positive and take good care of yourself but are facing jealousy and mean people above all at work, because in everyday life I ignore them easily or find a way to protect myself.

    Since I am peating I am more positive and calm and I see all the people trying to get on my nerve or they even try to set me up. Like pretending I am doing mistakes that they have prepared beforehand with other people in other departments.

    I have the impression to be in Dallas the tv serie. The only problem is that its not funny and almost dangerous as it can impact my reputation and me financially.
    Those people are not from poor environment, they know what they are doing and its not a lack of good food, sleep or housing. They are just mean and want to feel superior.
     
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    Thank you. You do too :)
     
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    Biotin may be another option- https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/biotiBiotin Can Actually Raise T4 And Lower TSHn-can-actually-raise-t4-and-lower-tsh.22453/
     
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    Do you think it's the same for women? I thought having orgasm was great to relax and be less tensed around the opposite sex.
     
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    Totally the same for women. It creates lasting fallout with women that make other partners more attractive, make them more unhappy in general.
     
  19. Lolinaa

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    I actually attract lots of men to be honest.

    It just that I am waiting to meet a good man with the qualities I want. My special someone with a good courtship.

    I am honestly ok, but sometimes I can have a libido surge so that's what I thought watching porn could help once in a while.

    As it is summer time here and my health is way better, I will try to go out more.
     
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    There Are people which can make gold from dirt.
     
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