Calming Food Fears & Sugar

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I made these French fries and posted the instructions for making them on my "Peaty Fruits & Vegetables" thread. They are crispy on the outside and mashed potato fluffy on the inside. French fries, made the like the good old days! ! ?

 

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"In a 1938 experiment (Brown, et al.) that intended to show the essentiality of unsaturated fats, a man, William Brown, lived for six months on a 2500 calorie diet consisting of sucrose syrup, a gallon of milk (some of it in the form of cottage cheese), and the juice of half an orange, besides some vitamins and minerals. The experimenters remarked about the surprising disappearance of the normal fatigue after a day's work, as well as the normalization of his high blood pressure and high cholesterol, and the permanent disappearance of his frequent life-long migraine headaches. His respiratory quotient increased (producing more carbon dioxide), as well as his rate of resting metabolism. I think the most interesting part of the experiment was that his blood phosphate decreased. In two measurements during the experimental diet, his fasting plasma inorganic phosphorus was 3.43 and 2.64 mg. per 100 ml. of plasma, and six month after he had returned to a normal diet the number was 4.2 mg/100 ml. Both the deficiency of the "essential" unsaturated fatty acids, and the high sucrose intake probably contributed to lowering the phosphate." -Ray Peat
 
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I have read that Marilyn Monroe ate very "Peaty" with raw eggs in milk, ice cream sundaes, raw carrots and liver, but this article has an extended collection if foods she ate that sound "Peaty" too, balancing her phosphorus with calcium (boiled noodles and milk and English muffin with melted cheese and jelly. I am gonna do a yeastless sourdough version of that one! I did this one with honey a few months back!


 

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Food restricting for me started when my mother put me on Weight Watchers at 9 years old. I was hypothyroid at the time I am sure because there was no way I ate a lot. At the time, I was never tested for it even though both my parents had thyroid issues. Fast forward to 15 years old and I was so bulimic that I would throw up things like potato chips ( a small bag was my binge ) and would do a toilet vomit count of the parts of the chip to see if they would equal what I ate. My twin sister was naturally model-thin and didn't have to eat with the " small fork " on the " small plate " and got to have real sugar. All I got was " sweet 'n low " and diet drinks. At 16, I started babysitting and at Italian family's house, and the mother would cook the most amazing northern Italian dishes some to feed the kids for dinner. Lots of calories and food. I finally felt like I was eating enough and finally started my period at 17 and a half after I graduated high school. The food fear is real and getting over it is a lifelong effort. Still trying.
 
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Food restricting for me started when my mother put me on Weight Watchers at 9 years old. I was hypothyroid at the time I am sure because there was no way I ate a lot. At the time, I was never tested for it even though both my parents had thyroid issues. Fast forward to 15 years old and I was so bulimic that I would throw up things like potato chips ( a small bag was my binge ) and would do a toilet vomit count of the parts of the chip to see if they would equal what I ate. My twin sister was naturally model-thin and didn't have to eat with the " small fork " on the " small plate " and got to have real sugar. All I got was " sweet 'n low " and diet drinks. At 16, I started babysitting and at Italian family's house, and the mother would cook the most amazing northern Italian dishes some to feed the kids for dinner. Lots of calories and food. I finally felt like I was eating enough and finally started my period at 17 and a half after I graduated high school. The food fear is real and getting over it is a lifelong effort. Still trying.

That is awful Star! That is why I wrote this post because too many people are on some diet or another. Ray Peat does not hand out restrictions or rules, but rather science of food and howbit relayez to our bodies. Has Ray Peat stuff been helpful in any ways? I know in the 60's and 70's, when I grew up, everyone was so rail thin, without a muscle in sight, stick figures, those generations really screwed people up. It was always a lot to live up to for me in my teens and beyond. Only since discovering Ray Peat have I realized how muscles matter and the scale doesn't.
 

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I have read that Marilyn Monroe ate very "Peaty" with raw eggs in milk, ice cream sundaes, raw carrots and liver, but this article has an extended collection if foods she ate that sound "Peaty" too, balancing her phosphorus with calcium (boiled noodles and milk and English muffin with melted cheese and jelly. I am gonna do a yeastless sourdough version of that one! I did this one with honey a few months back!


Milk noodles isnt weird!! Our family ate it all the time. Butter, milk, S&P. Great comfort food.
 
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I am gonna have to give that one a splurgy try! It sounds much healthier than Alfredo sauce.
 

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I am gonna have to give that one a splurgy try! It sounds much healthier than Alfredo sauce.
You will have no prob. Interestingly, my Auntie broke the "rules" and just dumps the semolina (whole grain, not processed) noodles dry into cold water and simmers immed. It does make for thicker mixture, she would barely cover it with water.
 
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You will have no prob. Interestingly, my Auntie broke the "rules" and just dumps the semolina (whole grain, not processed) noodles dry into cold water and simmers immed. It does make for thicker mixture, she would barely cover it with water.

I did this "Milk Bake Potatoes" and it was delicious! It was Jamie Oliver's method for baking chicken. I wonder how thicker noodles would fare in the recipe, like a goulash ?
 

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I did this "Milk Bake Potatoes" and it was delicious! It was Jamie Oliver's method for baking chicken. I wonder how thicker noodles would fare in the recipe, like a goulash ?
Have made those taters. Delish. Actually the enzymes in milk work wonders on fish too, but just to soak, then pitch it and cook. Def takes away smelly. Makes fresh halibut chowder amazing.
 
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I love this e-mail from Ray Peat that Mr Bollox posted and is to my earlier point, "Occasionally, phobic ideas about nutrients circulate, including places like the raypeatforum, and milk phobia seems to be a chronic cultural problem."
 
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What if a food is horrible but you mix it with something else like sugar? Or ketchup

Same result?

Ketchup? I know people who have trouble with milk he says add sugar. He also says sugar is a natural antihistamine. I don't know how much it is gonna undo horrible.
 
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Here are more "Old Time" "Peaty" foods I'm eating!
 

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Here are more "Old Time" "Peaty" foods I'm eating!
Awesome Rinse. Thanks for the inspirational pics.

Questions:
- Is peanut butter used in the cups PBFit?
- What ingredient to you use to make the crisp part of the apple-peach crisp?
 
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It is good sharing with a fellow "Foodie" 79er!

I have the recipe for the crisp on the link below, and have attached a photo of my blueberry and blueberry apple one! I am in love with those fruit crisps! They are far better than a fruit pie and tons quicker to make!


Here is the link to how I am making the "Peaty" Peanut Butter and below that how I made the "Peaty Peanut Butter :)

 

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When one isn't looking to lose weight or don't have limiting m health issues, safer starch splurges in minimal starch amounts are nothing to fear. I use a half and half blend of non-GMO heirloom Einkorn all-purpose flour with sprouted oat flour to bake cookies, cakes, pancakes and such. I made these cupcakes with my healthy blend yesterday for a friend we all enjoyed sampling the extras yesterday! Here is the recipe!

I chose this recipe for my legendary cupcakes because it was a place to put 3 of the 4 egg whites I was wasting making my custard. Now I freeze my egg whites in ice cube trays and give them to a friend, unless I am making cupcakes for somebody. I also like this recipe because it doesn't require any electric beater mixing. I top my cupcakes cakes with my own frostings, like vanilla, chocolate, fresh Meyer's lemon or cream cheese frosting.

 

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"There is one form of grain that is relatively harmless because of the traditional method of processing it, and that is corn that has been made into tortillas or other native American foods, using alkali to detoxify it and make it more digestible. Pellagra was strongly associated with the use of ordinary corn, but not with the traditional preparations. Tortillas fried in coconut oil and salted make a pleasant snack which is less nutritious than potato chips, but less allergenic and more digestible. " -Ray Peat

 
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