Big Muscles Little Fat - Lose Fat The Ray Peat Way!

[Rinse & rePeat]

I haven't switched. I do both. When raw cream is available I make some homemade but when its not, that Haagen Daz fills in nicely.

One time recently I thought I would get another brand of ice cream that was very similar to Haagen Daz, but there was one difference, the other brand, Edy's, had some type of vegetable gum in it for thickening purposes. And it did a number on me. Lesson learned: Avoid ice creams with any type of guar, or veg gum etc.

Well you answered my question about weather I should keep a hot sauce somebody gave me. It has all good ingredient, but it has guar gum listed second to last. I was gonna read up on it, but now I tossed it.

 

[Ismail]

I don't have sleep issues anymore since adding in sugars to my diet, but sometimes I do wake up and will go get a spoonful of raw honey to go back to sleep. I think your combo might help get me through to the morning better. I will give it a try and report back to you! Whole milk or?

Did you try this combo?

 

[Ismail]

Its quite a bit to recall.. so please forgive me if I leave something out.

Since coming here, I've stopped:
1 DMAE
2. Stopped being ultra low carb all the time
3. Stopped Huperzine A
4. Stopped Krill OIl
5. Stopped Saw Palmetto
6. Stopped Cymbalta

Then, the things I've started doing in no particular order:
1. Consuming carbs in the forms of some honey, lots of haagen daz ice cream, organic raisins
2 Carrols 2 or 3 times a week
3. Niacinamide and Benfotiamine
4.Methylene blue (sometimes with Vitamin C)
5 Pyrucet (just started)
6. Warm milk at night with a teaspoon of coconut oil and a tablespoon of organic cane sugar
7. Cistanche ( powerful stuff).

That's a loose list of things. I'm probably forgetting a couple of items on both lists.

Which brand of cistanche are you using?
How often do you take it? Do you cycle it?

? thanks.

 

[Ismail]

Well you answered my question about weather I should keep a hot sauce somebody gave me. It has all good ingredient, but it has guar gum listed second to last. I was gonna read up on it, but now I tossed it.

I read somewhere on this forum the negative effects of gums and thickeners - was a little disappointed as a lot of ice creams and hot sauces have them ?‍

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

I read somewhere on this forum the negative effects of gums and thickeners - was a little disappointed as a lot of ice creams and hot sauces have them ?‍

Get yourself busy making my easy and quick No Cream ice cream Ismail! I have found some really good hot sauces too with simple ingredients. I think I will post them on my "Peaty Sweets Sauces & Such" thread later today!

We All Scream For No Cream Ice Cream - In Minutes! (with photos)

"Blood sugar also seems to be low in migraine, so that some people find that eating a large amount of ice cream can interrupt the symptoms. This observation might be what we need to understand the role of sleep in health. We all know how hard it is to sleep when we are hungry (low blood sugar)...

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“Peaty” Sweets, Sauces, Starches & Other Splurges

"Our instincts give us a few clues about our nutritional needs, such as thirst, the hunger for salt, the pleasantness of sweet things, and the unpleasantness of certain odors or very acrid or bitter tastes." -Ray Peat This post has all the "Peaty" extras, like the frosting on cake! Though...

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[Ismail]

Get yourself busy making my easy and quick No Cream ice cream Ismail! I have found some really good hot sauces too with simple ingredients. I think I will post them on my "Peaty Sweets Sauces & Such" thread later today!

We All Scream For No Cream Ice Cream - In Minutes! (with photos)

"Blood sugar also seems to be low in migraine, so that some people find that eating a large amount of ice cream can interrupt the symptoms. This observation might be what we need to understand the role of sleep in health. We all know how hard it is to sleep when we are hungry (low blood sugar)...

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“Peaty” Sweets, Sauces, Starches & Other Splurges

"Our instincts give us a few clues about our nutritional needs, such as thirst, the hunger for salt, the pleasantness of sweet things, and the unpleasantness of certain odors or very acrid or bitter tastes." -Ray Peat This post has all the "Peaty" extras, like the frosting on cake! Though...

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[Rinse & rePeat]

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Ha! Ha! Ha! I love it!

 

[firebreather]

One of the biggest troubles I have is that when I reduce fat my thyroid symptoms get worse. I currently take 3/4 tab of Cynoplus every day and 1/2 tsp of black cumin but it only seems to help a small amount

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

One of the biggest troubles I have is that when I reduce fat my thyroid symptoms get worse. I currently take 3/4 tab of Cynoplus every day and 1/2 tsp of black cumin but it only seems to help a small amount

Don't let my title fool you, because I think fat is good, but when to have it and what to have it with makes all the difference. Not eating enough protein and eating too much fat creates fat. Having fat at night when muscles "feed" is the optimal place to have fats if you want to maintain muscle or lose weight. Fat is very good for skin too. Eating fat with sugars is another good weight gain combo. Try cutting fats down during the day and have them at night instead. Do you eat ample amounts of protein? I am 5'4 and 58 years old and shoot for a minimum of 80 grams of protein a day and am happy if I can get 100 to 120.

 

[firebreather]

Don't let my title fool you, because I think fat is good, but when to have it and what to have it with makes all the difference. Not eating enough protein and eating too much fat creates fat. Having fat at night when muscles "feed" is the optimal place to have fats if you want to maintain muscle or lose weight. Fat is very good for skin too. Eating fat with sugars is another good weight gain combo. Try cutting fats down during the day and have them at night instead. Do you eat ample amounts of protein? I am 5'4 and 58 years old and shoot for a minimum of 80 grams of protein a day and am happy if I can get 100 to 120.

Ah okay I see. That makes sense. I probably don't get enough protein these days as ever since I started trying to get more carbs (4 or 5 years ago) protein has been very difficult for me. I probably get 120 on average. I'm 43 years old and 6' tall

 

[OccamzRazer]

Don't let my title fool you, because I think fat is good, but when to have it and what to have it with makes all the difference. Not eating enough protein and eating too much fat creates fat. Having fat at night when muscles "feed" is the optimal place to have fats if you want to maintain muscle or lose weight. Fat is very good for skin too. Eating fat with sugars is another good weight gain combo. Try cutting fats down during the day and have them at night instead. Do you eat ample amounts of protein? I am 5'4 and 58 years old and shoot for a minimum of 80 grams of protein a day and am happy if I can get 100 to 120.

Interesting stuff...your fat + protein OR protein + carbs combos are spot on when it comes to body composition!

I look and feel better, however, when eating mostly protein + fat during the day and mostly protein + carbs at night. Guess we're all different...

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

Interesting stuff...your fat + protein OR protein + carbs combos are spot on when it comes to body composition!

I look and feel better, however, when eating mostly protein + fat during the day and mostly protein + carbs at night. Guess we're all different...

I don't endorse protein + fat because you need and a sugar source to go with it to balance the protein, which thiugh is a good combo for weight gain, but not weight loss. Like you said we are all different and having different goals.

 

[OccamzRazer]

I don't endorse protein + fat because you need and a sugar source to go with it to balance the protein, which thiugh is a good combo for weight gain, but not weight loss. Like you said we are all different and having different goals.

Ah, thought you advocated for that elsewhere in the context of fat loss, nevermind!

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

Ah, thought you advocated for that elsewhere in the context of fat loss, nevermind!

Ha! Ha! No fat + protein is low carb. I find lots of sugar (white sugar, raw honey & fruit) and no starches takes that layer of fat off and builds muscle quicker. I have been talking about it in my new weight loss thread,vwhichb8 linked below. I pulled an Occamz and did a play by play with progress reports and before & after pics after 6 weeks.

MORE WEIGHT LOSS TALK

“STARCH and GLUCOSE efficiently stimulate insulin secretion, and that accelerates the disposition of glucose, activating its conversion to glycogen and fat, as well as its oxidation. Fructose inhibits the stimulation of insulin by glucose, so this means that eating ordinary sugar, sucrose (a...

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[OccamzRazer]

Ha! Ha! No fat + protein is low carb. I find lots of sugar (white sugar, raw honey & fruit) and no starches takes that layer of fat off and builds muscle quicker. I have been talking about it in my new weight loss thread,vwhichb8 linked below. I pulled an Occamz and did a play by play with progress reports and before & after pics after 6 weeks.

MORE WEIGHT LOSS TALK

“STARCH and GLUCOSE efficiently stimulate insulin secretion, and that accelerates the disposition of glucose, activating its conversion to glycogen and fat, as well as its oxidation. Fructose inhibits the stimulation of insulin by glucose, so this means that eating ordinary sugar, sucrose (a...

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Oh ok nice, will check that out! Your meals there look amazing.

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

Oh ok nice, will check that out! Your meals there look amazing.

Thanks Occ! I am just doing what is necessary to keep that extra fat away denying myself fast food and pizza and choking down chocolates, ice cream and custards. Boy I can't wait to get off this diet, NOT!! ?

 

[jdr75bulldog]

Do you like cooking with cocoa butter?
I'd once cooked Cod. fillet in it,but I didn't like the taste (didn't even had a hint of chocolate flavor. I stick to eating some cacao butter as is).

Cocoa butter in coffee is rockstar!

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

I am seeing some progress ever since going "partial Peat". I believe that in a few months my love handles will be completely gone.

How are the "love handles" doing today Jon2547?

 

[Jon2547]

They have actually melted away a bit more. To the point where I have gotten rid of 80 percent of my clothes.

 

[Rinse & rePeat]

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They have actually melted away a bit more. To the point where I have gotten rid of 80 percent of my clothes.

That is fantastic! I know you were trying some different products, were they attributed to your success? Have you kept in sugar sources and other "Peaty' things?