Worst stuff to eat

[bookshelf]

In your informed opinion and experience, what do you think is the worst stuff you can eat? I'll start a list but please weigh in. Bonus points for the reason(s) why you think it's the worst.

1) PUFAs
2) Raw Veggies (except carrots and cukes)
3) Gums & Thickeners (e.g., carrageenan, guar gum)
4) Artificial dyes (except Methylene Blue)
5) Artificial Sweeteners

What else?

 

[peter88]

Nuts and unprepared grains

 

[Apple]

Pork/beef kidneys are high in lead.

This one is controvercial:
Chicken Neck - It contains lymph nodes that contain toxins and bacteria, and frequent consumption of chicken neck may increase the risk of cancer.

 

[bookshelf]

Nuts and unprepared grains

Ahhh, yes...good ones.

 

[bookshelf]

Pork/beef kidneys are high in lead.

This one is controvercial:
Chicken Neck - It contains lymph nodes that contain toxins and bacteria, and frequent consumption of chicken neck may increase the risk of cancer.

Huh, who would've known?

 

[Herbie]

Ray said Ascorbic acid and citric acid added to food was second only to pufa.

Titanium dioxide, talc as well, sulfur dioxide.

I think the worst for me is anything with added bacteria like fermented ginger beer, yogurt etc as well as potato chips, I think it's because they are fried then left to sit for a long time in those bags.

 

[ursidae]

aflatoxin and mycotoxin containing foods

 

[TheSir]

Any food you hate eating.

 

[singuluscorpora]

Ray said Ascorbic acid and citric acid added to food was second only to pufa.

Is there a source(s) about these concerns? (not necessarily directly from Peat) Aren’t ascorbic (vitamin C) and citric (citrus fruits) acids supposed to be good for you?

Thanks!
(apologies for the lame question)

 

[WombOfFuturity]

@singuluscorpora

Manufactured citric acid is a powerful inflammatory/allergy agent

I great study, which goes hand-in-hand with another one I recently posted about in regards to silica (ubiquitous in commercially sold food products/drinks). Namely, just as that other study found silica to be a potent inducer of the endotoxin/LPS receptor TLR4 even in minute amounts, this study...

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Vitamin C Supplements, Heavy Metal Contamination, Ray Peat

Ray Peat said: "Over the next 20 years, my own increased sensitivity to synthetic ascorbate led me to look for such reactions in others. The same people who reacted to it often reacted similarly to riboflavin and rutin, which were also made from cornstarch by oxidation. I ascribed the reaction...

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Ascorbic Acid

I have been taking ascorbic acid for about an year now. It helps me with cold, sneezing, running nose and allergies besides providing me with a sense of calm. I have read Dr. Linus Pauling's work on Vitamin C as well as other users posts in this forum. I guess the concern is really about the...

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[bookshelf]

Ray said Ascorbic acid and citric acid added to food was second only to pufa.

Titanium dioxide, talc as well, sulfur dioxide.

I think the worst for me is anything with added bacteria like fermented ginger beer, yogurt etc as well as potato chips, I think it's because they are fried then left to sit for a long time in those bags.

I need to dig deeper into the AA and citric acid. I have heard mixed on it but always respect RPs take.

Seems titanium dioxide, talk, sulfur d. are often found in supplements.

I have been wanted to make my own potato chips but don't have the right tools, yet.

 

[bookshelf]

Any food you hate eating.

Ahhh, yes...that would be for sure!

 

[bookshelf]

Is there a source(s) about these concerns? (not necessarily directly from Peat) Aren’t ascorbic (vitamin C) and citric (citrus fruits) acids supposed to be good for you?

Thanks!
(apologies for the lame question)

Not lame from my perspective...I see compelling, conflicting information and wonder the same.

 

[bookshelf]

@singuluscorpora

Manufactured citric acid is a powerful inflammatory/allergy agent

I great study, which goes hand-in-hand with another one I recently posted about in regards to silica (ubiquitous in commercially sold food products/drinks). Namely, just as that other study found silica to be a potent inducer of the endotoxin/LPS receptor TLR4 even in minute amounts, this study...

raypeatforum.com

Vitamin C Supplements, Heavy Metal Contamination, Ray Peat

Ray Peat said: "Over the next 20 years, my own increased sensitivity to synthetic ascorbate led me to look for such reactions in others. The same people who reacted to it often reacted similarly to riboflavin and rutin, which were also made from cornstarch by oxidation. I ascribed the reaction...

raypeatforum.com

Ascorbic Acid

I have been taking ascorbic acid for about an year now. It helps me with cold, sneezing, running nose and allergies besides providing me with a sense of calm. I have read Dr. Linus Pauling's work on Vitamin C as well as other users posts in this forum. I guess the concern is really about the...

raypeatforum.com

 

[Peatful]

Iron fortified and or excess iron

Iron's Dangers

Ray Peat

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"Iron And Gluten, The Toxic Tandem" Presentation By Thomas E. Levy, MD, JD

I just came across this excellent presentation by Dr. Thomas Levy, specifically about the issues with Iron Fortification of grains. In this talk, Dr. Levy specifically talks about how raw iron shavings are added to most fortified products, and this is insanely problematic. He makes the case...

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[Herbie]

@bookshelf from memory he said they are made by growing mold and that some of the mold or endotoxin can be contaminated in the final product causing allergic reactions, these acids naturally occurring in food are good.

They figured out how to make it in labs in the 80s up until then all the added citric acid was produced in Spain and was made from citrus fruit grown there.

Also taking those acids on there own can deplete vitamin c in the body because they aren't complete or something and uses up the stores in the body.

 

[Herbie]

@singuluscorpora

The links someone posted are of value, yes food sources are great, the added citric used to be made from citrus fruit from Spain but now it's all lab grown since the 80s. I drink redbull sometimes and some things which contain citric acid but I don't notice anything bad.

We don't know if by now the processes for making it have improved and the final product not being contamined by mold and actually very clean, until we know more it's good to experiment.

 

[Jennifer]

What else?

Microbial enzymes and vegetarian rennet. They’re one of the worst in my opinion because they can be highly allergenic and irritating to the intestines, and not all cheese manufactures distinguish between them and animal rennet on the label.

 

[Sparks]

Microbial enzymes and vegetarian rennet. They’re one of the worst in my opinion because they can be highly allergenic and irritating to the intestines, and not all cheese manufactures distinguish between them and animal rennet on the label.

Hi Jennifer

If it indicates on the wrapping that the cheese isn't suitable for vegetarians then I purchase it. If it doesn't then I don't.

 

[Brundle]

Peas.