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Charlie said:I had to do the same thing with ice cream. Set is aside for a treat. The every night deal is a belt stretcher for me.
Haagendazendiane said:Just discovered BJ's half gallon for $9.99. Because HD is so dense, I rationalized I would only eat a small amount. Ha! I just go back for more. I need to share better with my son.
4peatssake said:Rayser said:gretchen said:^^I hope this doesn't sound stupid :----) , but can't most people, once they've decided to go Peat, figure out what optimal is? You go buy the food from the list then start counting grams of this and that, and note whatever happens next. You get in a groove, feel totally amazing (at least until the weather changes), but start gaining weight like crazy, and eventually have to go to the mall to buy a new wardrobe.
It sound real smart to me, gretchen.
Only I can wear my old wardrobe again. I have lost the Peat-pounds after a year.
At the beginning I overdid the fats.
Good grief this is me now - over doing the fats and gaining weight. pffft
Being perimenopausal doesn't help! Good news at least is that I'm on to this and have banished my beloved haagen dazs to the occasion rare treat.
Rayser said:4peatssake said:Good grief this is me now - over doing the fats and gaining weight. pffft
Being perimenopausal doesn't help! Good news at least is that I'm on to this and have banished my beloved haagen dazs to the occasion rare treat.
You know what funny, 4peatssake? My mother (74) had the same problems with weight gain after switching to now-PUFA, no vegetables e.c. as me. We used cream and coconut oil and butter and cheese with 50% fat (Ray Peat calls it "hard butter"), had ice cream every night. So it was really no wonder.
But then we did two months of the limited diet he suggested: 1 liter of fresh pressed orange juice, 2 liters 1% milk, 1 egg, 2 carrots (salad would be good but you can eat them raw) and for the "in between" some fruit (mostly water melon or mango) and cottage cheese (4 % fat). After that we had both lost about 4 to 5 kg. It was so incredibly fast I think. We started to eat the whole diet again after that and both worried a little that we might gain the weight as fast as we lost it. We did not!
4peatssake said:Charlie said:I had to do the same thing with ice cream. Set is aside for a treat. The every night deal is a belt stretcher for me.
Oh boy you can say that again - and I mean please, who eats a 1/2 cup of ice cream?
gretchen said:4peatssake said:I mean please, who eats a 1/2 cup of ice cream?
OK, 2 scoops is a cup.
4peatssake said:gretchen said:4peatssake said:I mean please, who eats a 1/2 cup of ice cream?
OK, 2 scoops is a cup.
I swear too that that lil ole pint is scarcely a cup. Honest to Peat!
Oh man, if I have to give up potatoes with salt and butter, I think I'll have to :hangingroundHaagendazendiane said:4peatssake said:gretchen said:4peatssake said:I mean please, who eats a 1/2 cup of ice cream?
OK, 2 scoops is a cup.
I swear too that that lil ole pint is scarcely a cup. Honest to Peat!
My other new diet killer is Jenn's potatoes fried in c.o. with lots of salt! Although, I must say my temperature has been hitting 99 the last couple of days !
If I could afford it, I would . I lost 5 lbs eating coffee Haagen daz every day/evening for a week, a half pint in a sitting. It has to be haagen daz, not any other brand. The guar gums in other ice creams will put on weight something fierce, for me.4peatssake said:Charlie said:I had to do the same thing with ice cream. Set is aside for a treat. The every night deal is a belt stretcher for me.
Oh boy you can say that again - and I mean please, who eats a 1/2 cup of ice cream?
Jenn said:If I could afford it, I would . I lost 5 lbs eating coffee Haagen daz every day/evening for a week, a half pint in a sitting. It has to be haagen daz, not any other brand. The guar gums in other ice creams will put on weight something fierce, for me.4peatssake said:Charlie said:I had to do the same thing with ice cream. Set is aside for a treat. The every night deal is a belt stretcher for me.
Oh boy you can say that again - and I mean please, who eats a 1/2 cup of ice cream?
It's not calories, it anything YOU body cannot digest an assimilate is a toxin and will add weight. Anything that aids the liver in its own detoxing process, helps you lose weight.
Jenn said:I lost 5 lbs eating coffee Haagen daz every day/evening for a week, a half pint in a sitting. It has to be haagen daz, not any other brand. The guar gums in other ice creams will put on weight something fierce, for me.
It's not calories, it anything YOU body cannot digest an assimilate is a toxin and will add weight. Anything that aids the liver in its own detoxing process, helps you lose weight.
4peatssake said:gretchen said:4peatssake said:I mean please, who eats a 1/2 cup of ice cream?
OK, 2 scoops is a cup.
I swear too that that lil ole pint is scarcely a cup. Honest to Peat!
gretchen said:I've been asking about various Peatian staples at health food stores lately and have noticed that pretty much no stores- not a food co-op, health food chain store or smaller old-school vitamin/supplement health food store- carries Great Lakes gelatin, and no oysters either, and often no liver. I have decided these must be amongst some of the least popluar/"wrong" foods in the world. (from the perspective of the health food stores, which carry all sorts of other "healthy"/trendy type foods like grass fed beef etc)
Rayser said:When I asked Ray Peat for advise for weight loss I listed my entire diet and the first thing he mentioned was that there were far too many calories and that I should limit the ice cream to two table spoons a day.
Rayser said:He did say I should eat all day so my metabolism wouldn't slow but he advised me to be careful with fat. For instance eat cottage cheese with 4% fat instead of cheese with 50% or use milk for the coffee instead of cream. And to eat about 4 table spoons of coconut oil if I use those calories - go outside every day to walk or do exercise with the dumb bells (only a few minutes at a time).
gretchen said:I was up to almost 110 a few weeks ago, quelle horror! The Hagen Daazs just had to go.
gretchen said:I've been asking about various Peatian staples at health food stores lately and have noticed that pretty much no stores- not a food co-op, health food chain store or smaller old-school vitamin/supplement health food store- carries Great Lakes gelatin, and no oysters either, and often no liver. I have decided these must be amongst some of the least popluar/"wrong" foods in the world. (from the perspective of the health food stores, which carry all sorts of other "healthy"/trendy type foods like grass fed beef etc)
Jenn said:I don't actually eat very much. I can't digest too much at one time. I "eat" most of my coconut oil through my skin. (Yes, it helped with weight loss too, body heat and appetite satiety.) There was a time, when I first started, a half a potatoes worth of fries would fill me up...because I would CHEW thoroughly. Your stomach is actually supposed to empty in an hour, 2 at the most. If it's still there in 3 hours, it may try to come back up...hence all the heartburn/acid reflux medicine on the market.
I eat mostly sugar/potatoes and as much protein as I can digest in an hour. I am lucky if I get to 50 g....but it's a lot more than I used to get. I eat enough sugar though that I don't think I am wasting any protein by converting it to glucose.
Coffee HaagenDaz happens to be an easier to digest food for me.