I'm.No.One
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Female/37/5'4/133lbs / this will be kinda long I'm sure. It's weird.
So about 3 months or so back one morning I felt odd & discovered my blood sugar had plummeted to 30.
At the time I thought it was from the extra aspirin I had taken (650mg versus my usual 325) combined with bee pollen/propolis.
However, the next morning after eating breakfast & taking no supplements at all my blood sugar, within 30mins, dropped to Lo reading, which indicates in the 20s.
Each time I had to use milk/maple syrup & or glucose tabs to bring myself back into 90s.
It took about 2 weeks for these rapid drops to stop happening in the mornings.
I went with the theory I might be extremely vit B deficient, working with hot water extracted brewer's yeast & Thorne vit B complex made the drops less severe.
Now I'll wake up with a 90-103 morning blood sugar, eat, & rapidly drop into the 70-80s. Which is better but still feels like ***t.
My average glucose level is 90, but my C peptides are through the roof. The Dr said "woah" when she saw the low glucose but C peptides high.
I've seen a Dr, done all the labs, finally have an appointment with an endocrinologist but not until October.
The Dr is basically at a loss because I don't do all the things she would have me stop doing. I don't drink, smoke, eat a standard american diet, I don't live a sedentary life.
I did come from a place of pretty bad under eating (I was only in the 90lb range all of my life) a few years back now but even then I didn't eat much man made PUFA/basically lived off of sugar/carbs, just didn't eat often enough.
All of my health gains feel like they're sliding back as my pancreas relentlessly pumps out insulin that I am absolutely still sensitive to.
Most days I'm hovering in the 80 glucose range, 90s if I really work at it.
My life is now brain fog, numb mouth/big toes, emotional with no reason behind it, simple cuts aren't healing, heart skips beats, I'm no longer sleeping well, basically all of the fun stuff that comes from chronically low blood sugar.
It also does not matter what I eat.
I have tried EVERY combo of food.
The other day I ate a piece of fu(king meat, like a small slice of asada & within 15 mins my blood sugar dropped.
Low fat didn't help.
Less carbs didn't help.
Basically anything I eat, especially in the morning, drops my blood sugar.
My pancreas tested fine, there are no signs of a tumor.
My kidneys are fine.
No autoimmune.
My liver is within mid range levels on labs.
My cortisol is fine.
Last hormone panel showed rock bottom T, sky high progesterone, fine DHEA, low end of normal estrogen. That's been a few months now, I'm sure it's changed some especially since I stopped cycling with Progest-E.
TSH is a bit elevated, not surprised. However, even the tiniest amount of thyroid, even topical, almost throws me into a thyroid storm & one drop will spin me out like a horrendous stimulate & the last time it lasted 13 hours...
My vitamin D is in the 89 range, no supplements. Just lay naked in the sun alot ha.
Beyond occasional bloating typically triggered by stress I go to the bathroom like clock work, ghost wipes, no effort 1-2 times a day. Although I did start having small burps, which sounds normal but I've never really been one to burp much.
I tried working with Danny Roddy, he's a great guy, but he takes a week+ to reply to his Patreon members & often gives one sentence replies to in-depth emails/copy-pastes link's to Pete's work.
(Which is fine but isn't worth $100 a month IMHO)
After I said my vitamin D was not just fine but amazing & I didn't respond to thyroid well, he basically just gave me Ray's email once I began asking about possible issues outside of vit D/Thyroid.
I did find a study about cypro that caused increased insulin production in non diabetics, but if that was the cause it's not resolving after months of not using it.
Even before these episodes I hadn't used it much in some time & always topically.
Basically I'm at a loss at how to slow down this over production of insulin & it's genuinely beginning to impact my ability to provide for my family/self.
The only supplements I'm currently using is the vitamin B complex from thorne (always mid day/with carbs to minimize risk of blood sugar dropping) & the brewers yeast water.
I'd appreciate any insight/ideas/experience/studies/suggested labs etc.
So about 3 months or so back one morning I felt odd & discovered my blood sugar had plummeted to 30.
At the time I thought it was from the extra aspirin I had taken (650mg versus my usual 325) combined with bee pollen/propolis.
However, the next morning after eating breakfast & taking no supplements at all my blood sugar, within 30mins, dropped to Lo reading, which indicates in the 20s.
Each time I had to use milk/maple syrup & or glucose tabs to bring myself back into 90s.
It took about 2 weeks for these rapid drops to stop happening in the mornings.
I went with the theory I might be extremely vit B deficient, working with hot water extracted brewer's yeast & Thorne vit B complex made the drops less severe.
Now I'll wake up with a 90-103 morning blood sugar, eat, & rapidly drop into the 70-80s. Which is better but still feels like ***t.
My average glucose level is 90, but my C peptides are through the roof. The Dr said "woah" when she saw the low glucose but C peptides high.
I've seen a Dr, done all the labs, finally have an appointment with an endocrinologist but not until October.
The Dr is basically at a loss because I don't do all the things she would have me stop doing. I don't drink, smoke, eat a standard american diet, I don't live a sedentary life.
I did come from a place of pretty bad under eating (I was only in the 90lb range all of my life) a few years back now but even then I didn't eat much man made PUFA/basically lived off of sugar/carbs, just didn't eat often enough.
All of my health gains feel like they're sliding back as my pancreas relentlessly pumps out insulin that I am absolutely still sensitive to.
Most days I'm hovering in the 80 glucose range, 90s if I really work at it.
My life is now brain fog, numb mouth/big toes, emotional with no reason behind it, simple cuts aren't healing, heart skips beats, I'm no longer sleeping well, basically all of the fun stuff that comes from chronically low blood sugar.
It also does not matter what I eat.
I have tried EVERY combo of food.
The other day I ate a piece of fu(king meat, like a small slice of asada & within 15 mins my blood sugar dropped.
Low fat didn't help.
Less carbs didn't help.
Basically anything I eat, especially in the morning, drops my blood sugar.
My pancreas tested fine, there are no signs of a tumor.
My kidneys are fine.
No autoimmune.
My liver is within mid range levels on labs.
My cortisol is fine.
Last hormone panel showed rock bottom T, sky high progesterone, fine DHEA, low end of normal estrogen. That's been a few months now, I'm sure it's changed some especially since I stopped cycling with Progest-E.
TSH is a bit elevated, not surprised. However, even the tiniest amount of thyroid, even topical, almost throws me into a thyroid storm & one drop will spin me out like a horrendous stimulate & the last time it lasted 13 hours...
My vitamin D is in the 89 range, no supplements. Just lay naked in the sun alot ha.
Beyond occasional bloating typically triggered by stress I go to the bathroom like clock work, ghost wipes, no effort 1-2 times a day. Although I did start having small burps, which sounds normal but I've never really been one to burp much.
I tried working with Danny Roddy, he's a great guy, but he takes a week+ to reply to his Patreon members & often gives one sentence replies to in-depth emails/copy-pastes link's to Pete's work.
(Which is fine but isn't worth $100 a month IMHO)
After I said my vitamin D was not just fine but amazing & I didn't respond to thyroid well, he basically just gave me Ray's email once I began asking about possible issues outside of vit D/Thyroid.
I did find a study about cypro that caused increased insulin production in non diabetics, but if that was the cause it's not resolving after months of not using it.
Effect of cyproheptadine administration on insulin secretion in acromegalic, diabetic and normal subjects. - PDF Download Free
The effect of cyproheptadine (Cypro) and Placebo administration on insulin secretion and glucose utilization following i...
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Even before these episodes I hadn't used it much in some time & always topically.
Basically I'm at a loss at how to slow down this over production of insulin & it's genuinely beginning to impact my ability to provide for my family/self.
The only supplements I'm currently using is the vitamin B complex from thorne (always mid day/with carbs to minimize risk of blood sugar dropping) & the brewers yeast water.
I'd appreciate any insight/ideas/experience/studies/suggested labs etc.