some cheeses contain "microbial enzymes" "enzymes" "vegetable rennet" which Peat and others have talked about are very risky and allergenic even more so than citric acid
if youre looking at dried milk powders/casein/whey, would dry milk powder be safest and least processed?
I heard most whey proteins on the market are filtered/separated from milk using enzymes...
yet whey protein powders never list enzymes in the ingredients (unless its protease enzymes added to assist digestion), they only mention enzymes being used in the production process
where do those enzymes end up, do they all remain with the casein/cheese portion, hence the numerous cheeses with enzymes in the ingredients?
or do some of these enzymes remain in the whey portion, and are responsible for side effects and bloating that occurs with whey protein powders even if it's powders without any sunflower/soy lecithin, or sweeteners or flavors.
is skim milk powder the safest bet?
in the US, reduced fat/skim milks are required to be vitamin fortified with A and D, and basically always have fillers like propylene glycol and polysorbate 80 as preservatives for the vitamin mixture and emulsifiers to blend them evenly into the milk
but apparently, this vitamin fortification requirement doesn't apply to ice creams, yogurts, cheeses, whey protein powders, casein powders, and apparently not dried milk powders either.
there seem to be skim milk powders on the market which don't contain added vitamins. Using these would be a way to get some skim milk without the vitamin fortification, as well as without the liquid which can be problematic if trying to get 100 grams+ protein from milk. you can just blend the milk powder with orange juice or pomegranate or other juice and honey.
the skim milk powders seem less processed than the casein/whey powders, which seem to require processing in order to separate the powder into whey or casein. and the biggest concern is if there are enzymes leftover in the whey/casein powder products. I haven't seen any whey or casein powders made using animal rennet. some may be made using heat and some supposedly use "acid" not sure if that means HCL like animal stomach acid or what. but the whey protein companies actually prefer using enzymes, because they argue the acid and heat processing methods for whey production denature the proteins whereas the enzyme method is "cold processed" and doesnt denature the protein.
this website talks about it, and this protein seems very good quality, its from A2 cows(may not matter much since its a whey) its organic, 100% grass fed
however when I tried their non organic whey, it seemed to bloat me up, more than other wheys I have had which actually contain things like sucralose, flavorings, xanthan gum and soy lecithin! I just cant understand why/how a high quality unflavored whey protein would cause more bloating and digestion issues than a flavored, sweetened, soy lecithin fortified one! maybe its that the other one was heat processed instead of enzyme processed
Q: Is Raw Organic WheyTM acid treated?
A: No, Raw Organic WheyTM is sweet processed using enzymes to separate the whey from the fat. No harmful chemicals or acids are used which denature the amino acids.*
Q: Is Raw Organic WheyTM processed at low temperatures?
A: Yes, Raw Organic WheyTM is processed at low temperatures to protect the nutrients in their natural state. Most other whey is heat processed which makes the whey acidic, nutritionally deficient & damages the immuno-supportive micronutrients and amino acids.*
if youre looking at dried milk powders/casein/whey, would dry milk powder be safest and least processed?
I heard most whey proteins on the market are filtered/separated from milk using enzymes...
yet whey protein powders never list enzymes in the ingredients (unless its protease enzymes added to assist digestion), they only mention enzymes being used in the production process
where do those enzymes end up, do they all remain with the casein/cheese portion, hence the numerous cheeses with enzymes in the ingredients?
or do some of these enzymes remain in the whey portion, and are responsible for side effects and bloating that occurs with whey protein powders even if it's powders without any sunflower/soy lecithin, or sweeteners or flavors.
is skim milk powder the safest bet?
in the US, reduced fat/skim milks are required to be vitamin fortified with A and D, and basically always have fillers like propylene glycol and polysorbate 80 as preservatives for the vitamin mixture and emulsifiers to blend them evenly into the milk
but apparently, this vitamin fortification requirement doesn't apply to ice creams, yogurts, cheeses, whey protein powders, casein powders, and apparently not dried milk powders either.
there seem to be skim milk powders on the market which don't contain added vitamins. Using these would be a way to get some skim milk without the vitamin fortification, as well as without the liquid which can be problematic if trying to get 100 grams+ protein from milk. you can just blend the milk powder with orange juice or pomegranate or other juice and honey.
the skim milk powders seem less processed than the casein/whey powders, which seem to require processing in order to separate the powder into whey or casein. and the biggest concern is if there are enzymes leftover in the whey/casein powder products. I haven't seen any whey or casein powders made using animal rennet. some may be made using heat and some supposedly use "acid" not sure if that means HCL like animal stomach acid or what. but the whey protein companies actually prefer using enzymes, because they argue the acid and heat processing methods for whey production denature the proteins whereas the enzyme method is "cold processed" and doesnt denature the protein.
this website talks about it, and this protein seems very good quality, its from A2 cows(may not matter much since its a whey) its organic, 100% grass fed
FAQs
Q: Is Raw Organic Whey organic?A: Yes, Raw Organic Whey is USDA certified organic. Raw Organic Whey comes from cows that are pasture-fed, on small family farms. We ensure that these cows are raised without hormones, antibiotics, steroids, or genetically modified feed (GMO).Q: Where does Raw...
www.raworganicwhey.com
however when I tried their non organic whey, it seemed to bloat me up, more than other wheys I have had which actually contain things like sucralose, flavorings, xanthan gum and soy lecithin! I just cant understand why/how a high quality unflavored whey protein would cause more bloating and digestion issues than a flavored, sweetened, soy lecithin fortified one! maybe its that the other one was heat processed instead of enzyme processed
Q: Is Raw Organic WheyTM acid treated?
A: No, Raw Organic WheyTM is sweet processed using enzymes to separate the whey from the fat. No harmful chemicals or acids are used which denature the amino acids.*
Q: Is Raw Organic WheyTM processed at low temperatures?
A: Yes, Raw Organic WheyTM is processed at low temperatures to protect the nutrients in their natural state. Most other whey is heat processed which makes the whey acidic, nutritionally deficient & damages the immuno-supportive micronutrients and amino acids.*