Dating and Romance As A Peatarian

[Warrior]

Beautiful. Its because you're so honest and open in a world that is hell bent on image building that I've got the feeling you'll find what you're seeking. Half the battle is overcoming our own BS to see whats right in front of your eyes at the moment.

What seems like a square can actually be a circle as its all a matter of perspective but the amazing thing is without creating this thread which sent out a vibration of intent that everyone who replied or read added in with their energetics we wouldn't have had this conversation and neither would you have seen the pic which paves the way to more options in the moment as one can never unlearn anything really as the subconscious takes it all in and draws upon its resources to create your response as appropriate.

Everything is interlinked and its why I say there are no strangers, there are no enemies as I've befriended the whole world for they are but aspects of me reflected back as it all plays out inside my awarenss hence you are another me, together we, teaching me more about my Self, this realm and everything else.

Its all so beautiful really. Simple, yet complex. Like an orange square which may actually be a green circle. Or both. Or beyond that and actually just the light itself which needs no form for its function as it simply is. Or the illusion of free will but thats another conversation...

 

[Omen]

I’m sorry to hear that, Melissa. I need to get you here hiking with me. Hiking is a perfect way to meet people who are into health. My brother met his wife through hiking. Technically, I think he first met her online in a hiking group. I hiked with all men—a great group of guys! Actually, there was one guy who was a decade older than me who was a bit of a rebel. He’s a freelance photographer and spends the majority of his time outdoors. Friends wanted to set me up with him, but I was in my 20s and felt like a child compared to him—he used to tease me like I was his kid sister. He’s a good guy, attractive, fit and born and raised in NH so again, a bit of a rebel and possibly avoided getting vaccinated. Hmm…. The only thing is I’m not sure he’s spiritual like us, but I haven’t come across many men around your age or mine who are. Anyhow, all that to say, listen to your mom and get your tushy here…

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Are you single Jennifer?

 

[Herbie]

I'm going add my own perspective on this situation.

I am the real deal and living this peat philosophy not just the diet and have been for 7 years now. I'm adapted to it and there is nothing to talk about nothing to share, not much is going to change, it's not interesting being healthy, it just makes life easier and can experience fully. The Ray Peat lifestyle is only a surface thing when it comes to love imo.

Danny asked Ray on one of his last podcasts what do the healthy people eat who Ray knows. Ray replyed they just eat regular diet and that health and longevity is from the momentum given to us by our parents. It really made me think.

Ive left all the prejudice about what women I'm attracted to behind, I don't care if they are fat, ugly whatever thing that isn't popular. it's a personality and metaphysical attraction and can be with anyone and goes beyond any social norms. It really is only about their nature, attitude, soul, their voice for example, not the usual things physical assets, its a magnetism which is felt and to concider destiny and other factors.

Someone who eats what they want and does what they want and doesn't care and isn't trying to fix themselves or me is highly attractive, just wants to be human. There are so many ways to "Peat" that they can conflict.

To anyone wanting to date me, they will think I don't care at all about health in the current times for all the sugar, milk, coffee, lack of plant foods etc. And with love and romance, I won't be talking about health subjects. Even mcdonalds girls give me attitude about the sugar in my coffee but unfortunately I have more energy, strength, grit and toughness than the 18-21 year old apprentices I manage and teach.

The difference with me is that this Ray Peat thing is a secret world that I live in because I am a blue collar worker in the deteriating western society and the OP is openly living it and has a strong legacy.

 

[shanny]

Danny asked Ray on one of his last podcasts what do the healthy people eat who Ray knows. Ray replyed they just eat regular diet and that health and longevity is from the momentum given to us by our parents. It really made me think.

That is the very thing about understanding Dr. Peat, we learn to think! This post really resonated with me. There's a difference between living a Peat lifestyle through diet vs. truly understanding what he stood for. Happiness and purpose are often far more important than being perfect with diet. I appreciate your perspective so much.
I recently had a conversation with a family member regarding this very thing, what we consume is far more than just what we are "eating." A person living a life based on norms and mainstream propaganda is not going to be a healthy person, and probably not attractive to any of us here on this forum. Someone living their best life and not following all of the noise would most likely be attractive, even if they are eating peanut butter sandwiches every day for lunch!

 

[Jennifer]

Are you single Jennifer?

Yes, I am.

Ive left all the prejudice about what women I'm attracted to behind, I don't care if they are fat, ugly whatever thing that isn't popular. it's a personality and metaphysical attraction and can be with anyone and goes beyond any social norms. It really is only about their nature, attitude, soul, their voice for example, not the usual things physical assets, its a magnetism which is felt and to concider destiny and other factors.

I feel the same, though, I have a feeling I will see my match as highly attractive even if he doesn’t fit conventional standards thought to be attractive. It’s chemistry or metaphysical, as you put it. I find men of all makes and models, so to speak, attractive but I’m not attracted to all of them. There has to be that “can’t put my finger on it, but I can feel it” thing between us.

 

[Warrior]

Really great points I quite resonate with have been expressed in the previous comments.

Its why I recommend no one watches the news as its "energetic food" that is saturating your consciousness and just as what you consume with your lips builds your body this other side does your mind and both are intertwined anyway. Very low frequency stuff, the psychosocial equivalent of high PUFA, chemical laden junk food which is designed to be addictive and equally harmful. You've got to be consistent in your beliefs and approach across the board or you're doing yourself a disservice compared to who you could become if not so incoherent.

Also, what I said in the other thread about vibration by consuming this mess that they put out and thinking "ZOMG!! The big meanies! I've got to tell everyone on the socialist medes about this badness to warn them!" you're actually increasing the reach of the low vibration they push which is just what they want. Look at your motivation in this, its often fear based so you are adding to the vibration just like the lady seeking a perfect partner as you felt about her sayings in a totally different way. The medium is very often highly related to the message.

The point about energy inheritance is also true as its all about your bloodline in the end and what the parents passed on to build you as everyone doesn't get an equal share nor do we all use our physical form the same way as we tend to lean in a bias toward one of the energy centers (head, heart or abdomen aka Three Kingdoms) and ignore the rest as they languish undeveloped. This is almost never spoken of but very obvious once you feelsee it.

Part of the Warriors way is looking at yourself truthfully with this knowledge then correcting your ignorance and imbalance by chipping away at it bit, by bit. Incremental betterment because if you've two identical twins and one decides to eat just 200kcal less each day and spend 45 minutes walking as the only difference you won't see much for a year but after three it will be very, very noticeable and after a decade they may as well be totally different people even though they possess the same genetic inheritance.

There are ways and methods of becoming the ultimate version of yourself and the very fact you can intuit in an instant where you sit on this scale of potential proves my point quite well because everything is mental in this realm. Literally and metaphysically.

You Know What You Want to Do. Why Aren’t You Doing It?

We are all locked in a battle with the greatest Opponent humanity has ever faced. Its a tale as old as time itself and therein lies the hint if you’ll stop and think. Is the version of you you curr…

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"On a scale of One to Ten with the higher end being the ultimate version of your Self living the life of which you know you’re capable and the lower resonance being something akin to a freshly served thin slice of hell that takes an immense amount of effort just to survive, barely sleep then get up and do it all again where would you rank your Self at this moment?”

Which number did you get? Be honest. Now, what are you going to do to kickstart Self directed evolution to a higher octave of living?

 

[Warrior]

 

[Jennifer]

Which is often surface level lust, self interest or the desire for one (or both) to prove to the world that someone is willing to put up with them along with a fear of loneliness and other negatives that defines most relationships as each side bases it on what they can get, not give. The other side is this:

That’s not the “can’t put my finger on it, but I can feel it” I’m talking about, and it’s beyond mental gymnastics and algorithms. It’s divinely orchestrated.

 

[Warrior]

You're inside a fractal. Quite literally the living embodiment of an algorithm which can be mapped but, like I said previously, what you're seeing as an orange square currently may actually be a blue circle which is truly something beyond that.

Thanks for the inspiration though as I've edited the post and am going to flesh it out into a full article as I really dug the message and the way the prose flows in that one so back in the oven it goes. Also its interesting what you picked from the three options listed.

At ease...

 

[Advocate2021]

Beautiful. Its because you're so honest and open in a world that is hell bent on image building that I've got the feeling you'll find what you're seeking. Half the battle is overcoming our own BS to see whats right in front of your eyes at the moment.

What seems like a square can actually be a circle as its all a matter of perspective but the amazing thing is without creating this thread which sent out a vibration of intent that everyone who replied or read added in with their energetics we wouldn't have had this conversation and neither would you have seen the pic which paves the way to more options in the moment as one can never unlearn anything really as the subconscious takes it all in and draws upon its resources to create your response as appropriate.

Everything is interlinked and its why I say there are no strangers, there are no enemies as I've befriended the whole world for they are but aspects of me reflected back as it all plays out inside my awarenss hence you are another me, together we, teaching me more about my Self, this realm and everything else.

Its all so beautiful really. Simple, yet complex. Like an orange square which may actually be a green circle. Or both. Or beyond that and actually just the light itself which needs no form for its function as it simply is. Or the illusion of free will but thats another conversation...

Love this- totally agree! I have as many misadventures as I do because I live like this and can see the light in many forms and i always make an effort to connect with it regardless of the readily apparent shape. But in doing so and as I dive in more fully to connecting with an individual on an intimate level beyond friendship, the irreconcilables often become more apparent. but i learn and grow so much by this opening to what is presented to me that even my misadventures are adventures and I get stronger and wiser and feel I am being prepared for that circle that may appear square on the surface that is the exact key for my lock lol !!!!

 

[Advocate2021]

I'm going add my own perspective on this situation.

I am the real deal and living this peat philosophy not just the diet and have been for 7 years now. I'm adapted to it and there is nothing to talk about nothing to share, not much is going to change, it's not interesting being healthy, it just makes life easier and can experience fully. The Ray Peat lifestyle is only a surface thing when it comes to love imo.

Danny asked Ray on one of his last podcasts what do the healthy people eat who Ray knows. Ray replyed they just eat regular diet and that health and longevity is from the momentum given to us by our parents. It really made me think.

Ive left all the prejudice about what women I'm attracted to behind, I don't care if they are fat, ugly whatever thing that isn't popular. it's a personality and metaphysical attraction and can be with anyone and goes beyond any social norms. It really is only about their nature, attitude, soul, their voice for example, not the usual things physical assets, its a magnetism which is felt and to concider destiny and other factors.

Someone who eats what they want and does what they want and doesn't care and isn't trying to fix themselves or me is highly attractive, just wants to be human. There are so many ways to "Peat" that they can conflict.

To anyone wanting to date me, they will think I don't care at all about health in the current times for all the sugar, milk, coffee, lack of plant foods etc. And with love and romance, I won't be talking about health subjects. Even mcdonalds girls give me attitude about the sugar in my coffee but unfortunately I have more energy, strength, grit and toughness than the 18-21 year old apprentices I manage and teach.

The difference with me is that this Ray Peat thing is a secret world that I live in because I am a blue collar worker in the deteriating western society and the OP is openly living it and has a strong legacy.

Thank you for sharing here so wisely and vulnerably. And this concept goes for beyond what someone eats- it is a perspective on life, the world and reverence for physiology and the planet for me. As I said, those who are not evolved in this way do other damaging things to their bodies such as ingesting and using on their bodies and in their homes toxic chemicals, estrogenic substances and additives, drugs and smoking. those things effect me if i am intimate with them; so they are non negotiable for me and most i have met do not want to change their habits.

Then if becomes a spiritual clash because honoring our bodies, vitality, exuberance are the core principles of my existence on this planet and why i am fighting against those who are trying to take those precious gems away from us as my life's mission. So my incompatibility with a man who is not aligned this way goes far beyond his food choices.

Also, for me, chemistry and sexual, sensual, physical attraction are paramount. sexual and intimate connection and the intensity, spiritual depth and expansiveness of same are significant and necessary aspects of a fulfilling and sustainable relationship, both spiritually and physically. This aspect of a relationship is among those in which I most deeply connect, share, and transcend spiritually with a partner. It is not the entire relationship of course; but it is very important and representative to me of compatibility generally as it is a symbol of the same and not just about physical gratification. So the attraction/chemistry piece is also vitally necessary for me.

 

[Advocate2021]

Thank you for sharing here so wisely and vulnerably. And this concept goes for beyond what someone eats- it is a perspective on life, the world and reverence for physiology and the planet for me. As I said, those who are not evolved in this way do other damaging things to their bodies such as ingesting and using on their bodies and in their homes toxic chemicals, estrogenic substances and additives, drugs and smoking. those things effect me if i am intimate with them; so they are non negotiable for me and most i have met do not want to change their habits.

Then if becomes a spiritual clash because honoring our bodies, vitality, exuberance are the core principles of my existence on this planet and why i am fighting against those who are trying to take those precious gems away from us as my life's mission. So my incompatibility with a man who is not aligned this way goes far beyond his food choices.

Also, for me, chemistry and sexual, sensual, physical attraction are paramount. sexual and intimate connection and the intensity, spiritual depth and expansiveness of same are significant and necessary aspects of a fulfilling and sustainable relationship, both spiritually and physically. This aspect of a relationship is among those in which I most deeply connect, share, and transcend spiritually with a partner. It is not the entire relationship of course; but it is very important and representative to me of compatibility generally as it is a symbol of the same and not just about physical gratification. So the attraction/chemistry piece is also vitally necessary for me.

And I will add that my last point goes back to the first because men who are not attentive to their bodies, especially in or close to my chronological bracket, show it physically via both appearance and sexual function so I am not attracted to or compatible with them . in the past I was willing to take the time to work with them and transform that if possible as i did with my last boyfriend. But this too is not the dynamic i currently seek and that boyfriend was a bit co-dependent, this situation just one example. So the issue that spearheaded this thread from me is much deeper than it might a appear on the surface and is really not about a clash in dietary preferences at all. That is just one manifestation of the global malalignment of which I speak.

 

[Jennifer]

You're inside a fractal. Quite literally the living embodiment of an algorithm which can be mapped but, like I said previously, what you're seeing as an orange square currently may actually be a blue circle which is truly something beyond that.

I was trying to keep my crazy on the down low, but I suppose I’ve already outed myself here over the years so…

My comment was in reference to my faith, which is beyond my analyzing why I feel chemistry with a man. It’s my belief that the “can’t put my finger on it, but I can feel it” is spirit tapping me on the shoulder telling me he’s the one and by spirit, I mean my pushy grandmother.

Also its interesting what you picked from the three options listed.

Does it say something about me? lol I picked that paragraph from your post because I thought you were addressing my comment with it, specifically. If not, my apologies.

 

[Herbie]

@Advocate2021

I thought about if I were you, someone who has a clear legacy and knows what they want. I would put myself out there like have a youtube channel for example where I which would draw like minded potencial suitors toward me and filter them out which would be effective and time effiecient.

 

[Advocate2021]

Hi Peat Tribe. Here I am again. Cant resist sharing a latest saga. I actually met a male at a spiritual meet up I attended who is kind hearted and spiritually industrious but whom i never viewed as anything other than a platonic friend; although he viewed me initially for dating. I tried to cultivate a friendship; but it just became too awkward. Among the many reasons why I did not view this person as a romantic prospect was his complete non Peat indoctrination- for which his physical appearance was a poster child- bald, no muscle, sleep deprived, no evidence of testosterone or hormone balance, took fish oil, etc. We would have made the perfect poster for the contrast between a Peatarian of 25 years and the Anti-peat.lifestyle. And of course every time we were out somewhere he would hear people estimate my age as 15- 20 years younger and he thought me far younger when he met me even though we are about the same chronological age. And, as i have shared here, i have the hormone panel of a 25 year old so there is no way this would ever be anything but a platonic relationship.

But the grande finale was his diligence to "fix" me. he picked out all the things about me that he said look like low seretonin and sent me that Dr. Amen crap. the guy also takes st. johns wort and does all he can to boost seretonin; yet has no hormones, deficient endocrine function, doesnt sleep, doesnt work out, etc. And then he gets offended when i share copious science correcting his indoctrination that serotonin is so great for us. Dr. Amen is bald and high estrogen looking as they come in my opinion. And i think this person's ego is just bruised by the whole dynamic and the fact that I would never be romantic with this person and much of it stems from the dissonance in health philosophies among other things. .

But how in the world can a woman of such high health, hormone function and vitality be compatible with another who is completely haywire and resistant to the wisdom that could actually transform him into a man women would desire? And this issue is vice versa for male Peatarians. I share this just to show how challenging it really is for us Peatarians to try to cultivate even friendships with the opposite sex (especially when they are older) who are from a different universe and with whom there is no hormonal chemistry.

 

[Dutchie]

Sorry, you had to experience this .
From my, non-dating experience, most people who are into the spiritual scene likely are not going to match with your dietary views.
Lots of them regard vegetarianism and veganism as the way to go, heavy on nuts&seeds and plant oils...

 

[Jackson Chung]

Hi Peat Tribe. Here I am again. Cant resist sharing a latest saga. I actually met a male at a spiritual meet up I attended who is kind hearted and spiritually industrious but whom i never viewed as anything other than a platonic friend; although he viewed me initially for dating. I tried to cultivate a friendship; but it just became too awkward. Among the many reasons why I did not view this person as a romantic prospect was his complete non Peat indoctrination- for which his physical appearance was a poster child- bald, no muscle, sleep deprived, no evidence of testosterone or hormone balance, took fish oil, etc. We would have made the perfect poster for the contrast between a Peatarian of 25 years and the Anti-peat.lifestyle. And of course every time we were out somewhere he would hear people estimate my age as 15- 20 years younger and he thought me far younger when he met me even though we are about the same chronological age. And, as i have shared here, i have the hormone panel of a 25 year old so there is no way this would ever be anything but a platonic relationship.

But the grande finale was his diligence to "fix" me. he picked out all the things about me that he said look like low seretonin and sent me that Dr. Amen crap. the guy also takes st. johns wort and does all he can to boost seretonin; yet has no hormones, deficient endocrine function, doesnt sleep, doesnt work out, etc. And then he gets offended when i share copious science correcting his indoctrination that serotonin is so great for us. Dr. Amen is bald and high estrogen looking as they come in my opinion. And i think this person's ego is just bruised by the whole dynamic and the fact that I would never be romantic with this person and much of it stems from the dissonance in health philosophies among other things. .

But how in the world can a woman of such high health, hormone function and vitality be compatible with another who is completely haywire and resistant to the wisdom that could actually transform him into a man women would desire? And this issue is vice versa for male Peatarians. I share this just to show how challenging it really is for us Peatarians to try to cultivate even friendships with the opposite sex (especially when they are older) who are from a different universe and with whom there is no hormonal chemistry.

May I ask where you meet people? You are a lawyer correct? I hear they work a lot, is it hard to meet people as a woman? Or is it hard to meet people on your level health wise. I'm 32 and it feels I look a lot better than the average 32 year old. Yet its hard to meet people.

 

[Advocate2021]

Update: Have not been here much these last months; but boy do I get more and more clarity from my adventures in the world outside of Ray Peat Forum. We here are very blessed to be privy to this world of regeneration and vitality; but yes, makes our standards much higher than what the masses accept in terms of aging, deterioration, hormone decline etc. Very very tricky to find a man from the non Peat world who can match me on many fronts and takes a lot of my time and energy transforming those who have damaged themselves significantly anywhere near my chronological demographic. Yet, many younger men, although physically and hormonally more compatible, are spiritually and emotionally immature. Truly would be ideal and the least draining to meet a fellow Peatarian or close to it for sure lol.

Happy to connect with any who are drawn. Amdist the state of the world and what I do, I tend to broadcast my truth in neon on all fronts so why not on this one.

 

[Jackson Chung]

do you have children Advocate2021?

 

[ursidae]

Romantic love is the highest privilege. It's not really a matter of effort, skills or being enlightened which is why you may witness underwhelming people experience it, even if it may be once in a lifetime. Should be seen as more of an infinitely complex lottery to be won, against all odds