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narouz said:Let's say you move in with a sick person.
And--as in the article--your microbiome shifts towards that sick person's.
And, likewise, the sick person's microbiome shifts towards yours.
Lots of stuff to wonder about....
Such_Saturation said:post 101292 Narouz, females living together synchronize menstrual cycles, pendulums on a wall synchronize the beat, etc.
GALT interacts strictly with gastrointestinal functions in a dynamic manner; for instance, by increasing intestinal permeability in replay (sic, reply?) to particular stimulations, or orientating the immune response towards luminal content, allowing either tolerance or elimination/degradation of luminal antigens, or sometimes provoking damage to the intestinal mucosa, such as in coeliac disease or food allergy.
Studies conducted in the last 20 years suggest that a diet without the major sensitizing proteins (mainly from cow's milk and hen's egg) has no real advantage in terms of protection from allergy in the newborn.
BingDing said:post 107449 Well, I might have been a little harsh, just wanted to emphasize that the immune system is comprised of cells in the tissues. IgA, T cells, etc are not produced by gut bacteria. A strict dividing line is appropriate where it exists.
BingDing said:post 107434Such_Saturation said:post 101292 Narouz, females living together synchronize menstrual cycles, pendulums on a wall synchronize the beat, etc.
Such, pendulums do not synchronize. That's udder nonsense :)
I read the beginning of this thread and lost interest.
The "80% of the immune system is in the gut" thing refers to the lymphatic tissue of the gut wall itself, which contains 80% of mainly immunoglobulin A (IgA)-bearing cells. It has nothing to do with bacteria and microbes in the gut.
http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/quest ... n-your-gut
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2515351/
I don't know the gram numbers but I will start measuring once I get a scale. My plan is to start measuring objective data that I can track with pulse and temp. My simple sugars are from lactose and galactose from skim milk (no vitamins added. In CA we have the only brand that you can buy that has no vitamins added, unless you go to a farm, or buy traditional cream on top whole milk in glass jar and use an electronic cream seperator), fruits, fruit juice, a bit of sucrose, a bit of honey, maple syrup, molasses, sugarcane juice, coconut sugar, with lactose and fructose being the bulk and the others being like condiments.
I live in CA too (SoCal) and have not seen a brand of skim milk without vitamins added. Where do you find it? Thanks
I don't live there anymore but the only skim no vitamin one was Organic Pastures. It was 5 bucks for the half gallon.
Raw Skim Milk
Whole Foods has skim goat and cow yogurt.
Thanks - which store(s) did you find that brand of milk in? I haven't seen it in any Whole Foods I've been in.
Keeping transit time in the intestines very short, so that even small amounts of carbs that pass undigested due to their nature are enough to keep bactaeria entertained and prevent their rebelling. Many issues can be corrected when this aspect alone is improved, but I guess that's because it's a consequence of the body getting what it needs.@Amazoniac you recently quoted the beneficial effects of exercise on gut health including a higher production of butyrate. You often recommend anti - fermentation measures be added to foods, fibers included. It's also pretty obvious that many fibers lead to issues. What is your current take on all of this? How do we produce more butyrate, reap the benefits without rotting our inside out?
@Xplus
The bacteria in our gut needs soluble fiber. Breast milk contains a lot of it. After weaning if you eat enough whole fruit , inulin containing vegetables, or any of the many other food sources of soluble fiber, you'll continue to feed your gut bacteria properly. If you stop, you'll develop gut dysbiosis. And some people with gut dysbiosis will manage to soldier on with the gut bacteria eating the mucus lining of their colon until... they develop some symptom of the damage that has been being done. There are so many permutations and combinations of gut permeability. Unfortunately that is the way the human body is designed. I think we have to complain to evolution if we don't like it.
The easier approach is to just accept the design, eat enough soluble fiber for your guts design due. Whole fruit is packed with pectin. and many vegetables contain heaps of inulin. And even simply prepared, both are delicious. It's not very difficult to do.
And your gut bacteria will repay you in whole body health a thousand fold. Eat enough dirt to ensure the right bacteria are present, feed them enough soluble fiber to keep them happy, and relax.
Of course if you've already got some level of SIBO, or some other downstream health consequence of post weaning lack of soluble fiber intake it becomes so much more complicated...
Stuart.