What Free Amino Acids Should I Buy To Use As Main Protein?

[nostalgic]

Depends on how long you would continue like that but it sounds like you need professional help.

Short term you can survive or even thrive on a restricted diet but long term I don't think thats a healthy option. How do you know that what you are eating now set part of the problem, or that you've already created a deficiency that has made the situation worse?

Time is part of the context, as is how long have you been messed up, what other symptoms do you have, etc. I am not qualified to provide that kind of advice. But I empathize with your situation, I am sure it sucks, dont give up - keep looking for answers.

I fear that it might be permanent since it hasn't gotten any better since this all started 4 months ago and there's nothing that's helped more than delaying the symptoms when eating.

Sorry if I don't understand the questions. I've tried lots of food and what works best is rice, but it's still very poorly tolerated. I started getting muscle pain and extremely weak muscles recently and adding the essential amino acids mentioned earlier helped a lot. Now the pain is back so I just assume it's another deficiency now.

I'm well aware that I can't ask you to try to treat me or anything, just if you could lend me your knowledge in what amino acids I could use (if any) that's not in your product.

Without the help from this forum I would have given up a long time ago, so I'm very appreciative of all the help I've gotten here. Even though it's not cured me I'm still alive.

 

[Kang]

That is a good question. I do not know, but we did look at every option we could find to reduce the ammonia and hence the load on the liver, then kidneys while researching how to address the ammonia load for my buddy with kidney failure. Nothing other than Haidut's original suggestion made any sense or worked. Not saying there isn't anything out there but if you have any ideas let us know and we will look into them.

 

[Kang]

I fear that it might be permanent since it hasn't gotten any better since this all started 4 months ago and there's nothing that's helped more than delaying the symptoms when eating.

Sorry if I don't understand the questions. I've tried lots of food and what works best is rice, but it's still very poorly tolerated. I started getting muscle pain and extremely weak muscles recently and adding the essential amino acids mentioned earlier helped a lot. Now the pain is back so I just assume it's another deficiency now.

I'm well aware that I can't ask you to try to treat me or anything, just if you could lend me your knowledge in what amino acids I could use (if any) that's not in your product.

Without the help from this forum I would have given up a long time ago, so I'm very appreciative of all the help I've gotten here. Even though it's not cured me I'm still alive.

I would strongly recommend speaking to a specialist, please PM me and I will pass you a name.

As for additional amino acids, no I do not believe you need to add others than what is in Amino Pro assuming you are eating other foods. Your case is extreme though so.... short term I think you're ok but longer term I just can't say.

 

[CarbAppreciator]

Does anyone else question whether the MAP study was just BS?

 

[Kang]

Does anyone else question whether the MAP study was just BS?

The truth is I have questioned it a lot doing research, and I have had interesting discussions on Haidut on protein - there are no easy answers, they are all really complex. In the end we trialled the formula in powders and it worked. Then when we had the ratio dialled very tightly by having them in potency tested capsules people had even better results - dramatically better. But perhaps its all placebo, either way its working.

 

[AinmAnseo]

If I have 10 g of "regular" protein from ground beef and 4 g of "regular" protein from milk in a meal, and I want to add 10 g of "regular" protein by adding 3.5 g of MAP amino acids, how would that look?

These are the 6 key amino acids from the Meat+Dairy (15 g reg protein):
Leucine 1.2 g
Valine .8 g
Isoleucine .6 g
Phenylalanine .6 g
Lysine 1.1 g
Threonine .6 g

For the Amino Acids part would it look like this (per Haidut's earlier comments)?
(10 g reg protein) (3.5 g amino acids):
BCAA product - Leucine 1 g
BCAA product - Valine .5 g
BCAA product - Isoleucine .5 g
Phenylalanine .5 g (would added Phenylalanine really be needed here, since Haidut noted elsewhere that the Phenylalanine in the "regular protein" might be enough?)
Lysine .5 g (is added Lysine needed here, since there is some in the "regular protein"?)
Threonine .5 g (is added Threonine needed here, since there is some in the "regular protein?)