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Would you prefer extraction over root canal?

Yes I would. But I am troubled by Dr. Peat’s statements about missing teeth and correlation with shorter lifespan. I am willing to rethink my position on root canals. I think the trick is to use a doctor who takes the sterilization seriously. The traditional media is gutta percha which is probably fine for filling it, but the sterilization is crucial.
 

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Orthotropics people are also against extractions. Mike Mew has many videos on YouTube about it.
 

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Yes I would. But I am troubled by Dr. Peat’s statements about missing teeth and correlation with shorter lifespan. I am willing to rethink my position on root canals. I think the trick is to use a doctor who takes the sterilization seriously. The traditional media is gutta percha which is probably fine for filling it, but the sterilization is crucial.
Built on Peat's suggestion to do it over extraction if the option was available, I used a guy who used GENTLE WAVE which is supposed to be great at sterilization, etc.
 

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Built on Peat's suggestion to do it over extraction if the option was available, I used a guy who used GENTLE WAVE which is supposed to be great at sterilization, etc.
Such treatments are no doubt great at general sterilization, potentially offering up to 99.99% sterilization. The problem is that this is not enough. The remaining 00.01% is more than enough to allow the bacteria to proliferate. In order to make root canal an impeccable treatment approach, you would necessarily have to eliminate every single bacterium, which is extremely unrealistic no matter the tech or substance used.

I don't know why people are so hell-bent on going against their own logic and intuition by taking Peat's words for the absolute truth, as if he was never wrong or never changed his mind. No wonder Peat loathes this forum, as its members operate in a way that opposes the very principles that he is advocating for.
 
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do centanarians in good health have complete teeth?

Or in their 50s do they have complete set of teeth just touch by fillings?
 
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I got the root canal in late September of 21. It went very well. The pain was gone instantly afterward and functionally (being able to chew without pain) is great.

Peat swayed me over with the cognitive declines with those who had teeth extracted, plus I found a dentist who did a procedure that cleans it out thoroughly. Forgot the name.

I'm a 43 year old male in good health. Worst case scenario, I can take it out down the road if necessary. At least I have the option now.
What kind of cognitive decline ?
 

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Such treatments are no doubt great at general sterilization, potentially offering up to 99.99% sterilization. The problem is that this is not enough. The remaining 00.01% is more than enough to allow the bacteria to proliferate. In order to make root canal an impeccable treatment approach, you would necessarily have to eliminate every single bacterium, which is extremely unrealistic no matter the tech or substance used.

I don't know why people are so hell-bent on going against their own logic and intuition by taking Peat's words for the absolute truth, as if he was never wrong or never changed his mind. No wonder Peat loathes this forum, as its members operate in a way that opposes the very principles that he is advocating for.

I will report back on here if something goes "sideways" from that procedure. However,

Has he not swayed you from a belief before? Sometimes he does for me; most often he doesn't in my direct experience.

I agree that it "seems" that most people take his word for absolute truth, but there's no way of truly knowing if I don't see how others are living day to day.
 

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I will report back on here if something goes "sideways" from that procedure.
Appreciate it. You will not necessarily suffer from any observable side effects from the treatment, at best it will simply cap your progress if you're ever pursuing supra-physiological states of health through breathwork.
Has he not swayed you from a belief before? Sometimes he does for me; most often he doesn't in my direct experience.
Peat has given me valuable knowledge in areas in which I had none to begin with. Typically the beliefs to which I end up committing stand on a robust internally consistent foundation, so the only way to sway me from them would be to directly invalidate one of the foundational premises. Such does happen, but given how surface-level my knowledge in regard to nutrition and biology was before stumbling upon Peat's work, I was such a tabula rasa that there were very few opportunities for swaying.

I agree that it "seems" that most people take his word for absolute truth, but there's no way of truly knowing if I don't see how others are living day to day.
It was mostly aimed at you and hamster, both of you whom had sound reasoning for avoiding extractions, which you were ready to throw out of the window the moment Peat offered an opposing conclusion with zero reasoning.
 

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Appreciate it. You will not necessarily suffer from any observable side effects from the treatment, at best it will simply cap your progress if you're ever pursuing supra-physiological states of health through breathwork.

Peat has given me valuable knowledge in areas in which I had none to begin with. Typically the beliefs to which I end up committing stand on a robust internally consistent foundation, so the only way to sway me from them would be to directly invalidate one of the foundational premises. Such does happen, but given how surface-level my knowledge in regard to nutrition and biology was before stumbling upon Peat's work, I was such a tabula rasa that there were very few opportunities for swaying.


It was mostly aimed at you and hamster, both of you whom had sound reasoning for avoiding extractions, which you were ready to throw out of the window the moment Peat offered an opposing conclusion with zero reasoning.
Since the procedure I've only gotten better in all facets of my health to be fair. I was improving before already, but one thing I did change was my sleeping pattern. Asleep by 10 pm every night compared to 12-1.

It always comes down to myself when making a decision like this. Maybe I could've elucidated on that in my original post for 100% clarification, but I know the truth for myself in regards to how I make decisions. It took a long time for me to get this procedure and I really didn't want to lose the tooth completely. I was already leaning this way, a bit, which is how I found the Gentle Wave procedure. Of course, Peat played a role as I assumed he was totally against stuff that like based on what I heard from different "alternative" teachers/practitioners out there.
 

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Since the procedure I've only gotten better in all facets of my health to be fair. I was improving before already, but one thing I did change was my sleeping pattern. Asleep by 10 pm every night compared to 12-1.
The difference between having an infected and a largely sterilized root canal is of course dramatic. If the latter should cap your health in any way, it would be nothing compared to the former. I wish I could get to bed that early. I can't remember the last time I woke up before noon. Years ago my sleep schedule got so late that it actually became an early one: I would sleep as long as I wanted and wake up naturally at 6 AM. It was wonderful, for the two weeks that it lasted until I was back to sleeping till noon.

It always comes down to myself when making a decision like this.
This is for the best, ultimately
 

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The difference between having an infected and a largely sterilized root canal is of course dramatic. If the latter should cap your health in any way, it would be nothing compared to the former. I wish I could get to bed that early. I can't remember the last time I woke up before noon. Years ago my sleep schedule got so late that it actually became an early one: I would sleep as long as I wanted and wake up naturally at 6 AM. It was wonderful, for the two weeks that it lasted until I was back to sleeping till noon.


This is for the best, ultimately
Going into my 7th month of going to sleep early, it's the greatest thing I've done for my health. I wouldn't replace it with any other thing I've started or stopped in my health journey.
 

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Going into my 7th month of going to sleep early, it's the greatest thing I've done for my health. I wouldn't replace it with any other thing I've started or stopped in my health journey.
This may end up motivating me to give it another go. What kind of benefits do you attribute to it?
 

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This may end up motivating me to give it another go. What kind of benefits do you attribute to it?
Every physical benefit that people seek so strongly on this forum. Not kidding! i.e- digestion, focus, strength, recovery, mood, resilience, (insert desired thing.)
 

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Every physical benefit that people seek so strongly on this forum. Not kidding! i.e- digestion, focus, strength, recovery, mood, resilience, (insert desired thing.)
Huh, interesting. Though based on my own two week experience in that schedule, I'm not surprised. In my mind I hated being up so early, but my body seemed to love it. Did you experience an overall reduction in the required hours of sleep?
 

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Huh, interesting. Though based on my own two week experience in that schedule, I'm not surprised. In my mind I hated being up so early, but my body seemed to love it. Did you experience an overall reduction in the required hours of sleep?
Maybe a slight difference. 9 hours is my sweet spot I think.
 

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@Beastmode, has Ray provided any studies to back his claims on the cognitive decline, like he sometimes does at the end of his emails?
 
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Background: That oral health as is related to the development of different cardiovascular disorders has been reported in a number of studies. The aim of this study was to investigate if different parameters of oral health were associated to future mortality in different CV disorders in a dosedependent manner.

Methods: 7,674 subjects received a dental examination by specialists in periodontology between the years 1976-2002. Number of remaining teeth (NT), severity of periodontal disease (SPD), number of deepened periodontal pockets (NDP), and bleeding on probing (BOP) were evaluated in relation to cause of death.

Results: During a median follow-up period of 12 years 629 of the subjects died. For 299 subjects the cause of mortality was cardiovascular disease (CVD), 167 of these subjects died due to CHD, 83 due to stroke and 49, died due to aortic aneurysm or congestive heart failure. After adjustment for age, gender and smoking, NT predicted in a dose-dependent manner all-cause mortality, mortality in CVD and in CHD (P <0.0001 for all), but not mortality due to stroke (P = 0.15).

Cox regression analysis revealed a 7-fold increased risk for mortality due to CHD in subjects with <10 teeth compared to those with >25 teeth. SPD, NDP and BOP were not related to mortality in a dose-dependent manner after adjustment for confounders.

Conclusion: This fairly large, prospective study with a long follow-up period presents for the first time a dose-dependent relationship between number of teeth and both all-cause and CVD mortality, indicating a link between oral health and CVD, and that the number of teeth is a proper indicator for oral health in this respect. C
 
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ABSTRACT Background: The association between the number of teeth and mortality among community-dwelling people has been examined in many epidemiological studies. However, few Japanese studies have included cancer mortality as an endpoint. We prospectively investigated the association between number of remaining teeth and all-cause and cancer mortality in a Japanese community.

Methods: This study included participants in the Takayama Study who were aged 35–70 years old at baseline in 1992. Information on the number of remaining teeth was obtained from 11,273 participants via questionnaire at the second survey in 2002. The response rate was 66.9%. Deaths and their causes were ascertained during 11.8 years of follow-up.

Results: A total of 1,098 deaths (435 cancer-related and 235 cardiovascular-related) were identified during the follow-up period. After adjusting for covariates, participants with 0 to 9 teeth were at moderate but significantly increased risk of all-cause mortality (hazard ratio
1.19; 95% confidence interval [CI], 1.03–1.39) and cancer mortality (HR 1.31; 95% CI, 1.03–1.67) compared to those with 20 or more teeth.



With regard to cancer site, a significant association was observed for lung cancer (HR for 0–9 teeth vs. 20 or more teeth, 1.75; 95% CI, 1.08–2.83). This association was somewhat strengthened among never-smokers (HR 3.56; 95% CI, 1.02–12.45).

Conclusions: We observed that a lower number of remaining teeth was significantly associated with increased risk from allcause and lung cancer mortality. Further studies on the number of teeth and lung and other types of cancer are needed.
 
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